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  1. Join Date
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    listen to this, a wiretapped conversation between lozada & joey de venecia. i don't know how authentic this is but the site i got it from is pretty credible and straightforward

    http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2008/0...pped/#more-819

    Last edited by baludoy; February 22nd, 2008 at 10:43 AM.

  2. Join Date
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    Buti na lang may transcript. Medyo mahirap pakingggan yung youtube video

    EDIT: Page not found agad.

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    Transcript


    Joey (allegedly, Joey de Venecia): Hey Jun.
    Jun (allegedly, Jun Lozada): Hey Joey.
    Joey: Jun, can you hear me?
    Jun: Yeah. Go ahead.
    Joey: Yeah, where are you to put Chair (Abalos)?
    Jun: Ang formula ko doon is kuha ako ng points dun sa 130.
    Joey: Uh-huh…
    Jun: Di ba? Kasi saan ko pa kukunin di ba? (laughs) Itong mga gago…
    Joey: Kaya lang pare, we need to get some… at least from… something from them, di ba?
    Jun: Yeah.. from both sides. P*tangina…
    Joey: Pare.. start from the thing.. Because he’s the gatekeeper of the votes. P*ta. I can understand, but not that amount.
    Jun: Oh yeah. that’s too big, right. That’s too big.
    Joey: Pare, let’s develop a plan to talk to him.
    Jun: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So…
    Joey: And you know what he told me, between you and I. When we were in Hong Kong… in Shenzen. Don’t quote me ha. Sabi niya kasi, marami akong… Tinanong ko bakit ba ang laki-laki? Singkwenta.. Sabi niya marami ako kelangan bigyan. Pati yung NEDA. He said the word NEDA ha. P*tangina. For your information pare.
    Jun: Information? I would understand that… He’d like to look at…
    Joey: Maybe, wait, you can quote me and say, sabi ni Joey meron daw… sabi mo sa kanya may NEDA dun. (laughs) Di ba? He told me pare. (laughs)
    Jun: Sige, sige…
    Joey: P*tangina, baka magwala na naman yung… (laughs)
    Jun: For some reason, I have this chemistry with him. Sabi ko Chair… In fact, sabi niya, Jun, ikaw na mag-referee bukas ha. Sabi niya, I want you to be there. Ikaw na mag-referee, ikaw na magsabi kung papaano. Sige po Sir, ako na ang mag-aano sa ano… (laughs)
    Joey: Well anyway, so that’s where I’m looking at right now. .. ought to get you.. And then, uh, think of a strategy for Ben (Abalos?), and if you need me to back you up, I’ll be there.
    Jun: Hey Joey, regarding this Chinese embassy thing. I think I struck a motherload no? I’ll put them in Roxas Boulevard. P*tangina, di ba?
    Joey: In the Reformation?
    Jun: No, p*tangina, that’s not prime. We’ll put them in the CCP complex.
    Joey: Yup, got it.
    Jun: P*tangina. Yeah, that’s, wala.. I can ??? that ??? agreement.
    Joey: You mean, owned by the Central Bank?
    Jun: Yeah! Can you imagine? P*tangina, same stature as the American embassy, better pa, di ba? The Japanese Embassy is in Roxas Boulevard. The American embassy is there. So p*ta, I just arrived that we put the Chinese embassy right in the midst of it all, di ba? Joey: Yes, yes, of course. That’s ??? to hear. That’s foresight.
    Jun: … don’t mention my name. I think he knows me well.
    Joey: Gaano kalaki, pare?
    Jun: P*tangina, as much as 15 hectares. (laughs)
    Joey: P*tangina. Tapos siguro kumuha rin tayo dun. Pero we need 10 finances.
    Jun:
    No, no, no, no. P*tangina. I cannot just tell you all the things that I’ve been asked to do. But that one I think, I can ??? for ourselves.
    Joey: I’ll talk to the…
    Jun: Talk to him right away.

    http://www.pinoymoneytalk.com/2008/0...ia-wiretapped/

  5. Join Date
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    kung talagang totoo ito ibig sabihin, totoo talaga ang ZTE scam, hindi isang paninira lamang sa administrasyon,

  6. Join Date
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    That's what's weird about it... ni-leak ba siya ng mga tao ni Gloria? Jun is denying that the conversation was real... patched together daw... because it implicates him as part of the action, not just Abalos...

    But it also supports the contention that the ZTE deal was padded by Abalos himself.

    So... is PGMA getting ready to dump the turkey? About time.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    jun is part of the deal he only got "conscience" and "guilt" that he was able to get sympathy from the church the student and a good percentage of pinoys.

  8. Join Date
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    Imo kung may sabit din si Jun e di parusahan din...pero wag naman dahil involved siya basura na testimony niya...Lahat ng involved parusahan kung kelangan.

  9. Join Date
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    feeling celebrity na si jun lozada, nakakainis pinapalakpakan pa. hes obviously part of it. how would he know all these things kung di sha kasali.

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    kaya pala ndi nagkasundo sa kickback ang mga ogag...puro p*ina sinasabi kada sentence...

    seriously, lozada is part of the "gang".. sabi nga ni salonga, this is a quarrel among thieves

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  12. Join Date
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    he's involvement is beside the point na, inamin na niya yan...what's disturbing is bakit meron wiretapping? akala ko ba before sa garci tapes, eh walang capability ang military? at least yan ang sinasabi nila...and ang isa who orderedthe wiretapping? and who did the wiretapping?

    yan ang dapat malaman dahil hinde wala naman national security involve dito?

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    Lozada says taped talks on JdV funding spliced
    SENATE witness Rodolfo Lozada Jr. yesterday admitted that it was his voice that appeared to be asking for P200,000 from Jose de Venecia III in a wiretapped conversation that is now accessible through the Internet.
    But Lozada said the conversations were spliced in such a way that it would appear he was asking for that much money in exchange for his cooperation in the ongoing Senate inquiry into the multi-million-dollar deal between the government and a Chinese firm for a national broadband network.
    In an interview with Standard Today, Lozada said that former Commission on Elections Chairman Benjamin Abalos Jr. and the Intelligence Service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines were behind the recorded conversations.
    ‘‘I know Abalos and the people at Isafp are behind this wiretapping. They are spying on me and Joey,’’ Lozada said. ‘‘I don’t think I should be the one to be investigated over these conversations. It should be them because wiretapping is illegal. All of the conversations were spliced to fit their own version of the truth.’’
    Lozada was initially hesitant to grant the interview, insinuating that Standard Today had always been critical of his testimony.
    ‘‘Why are you interviewing me? Di ba taga Manila Standard ka?’’ he said.
    When told that the paper only wanted to get his side for fairness, Lozada remarked: ‘‘I think you are a good person, but maybe you’re in the wrong newspaper.’’
    The allegedly wiretapped and spliced conversations between Lozada and De Venecia were all uploaded in the Web site www.patriots4truth.blogspot.com, which is part of an online file sharing network.
    In the recordings, Lozada was allegedly asking for P200,000 a week from De Venecia as petty cash fund.
    ‘‘If I really received that much money weekly from Joey, then I would not be saddled with debt by this time,’’ Lozada said.
    He denied he was selling 15 hectares of land along Roxas Boulevard to the Chinese Embassy as could be heard from the recording.
    ‘‘I think I struck a mother lode here. We’ll put them in the [Cultural Center of the Philippines] Complex. Can you imagine? They will have the same stature as the American Embassy, even better,’’ Lozada was heard as saying in the recorded conversation.
    Lozada explained that he was probably talking about a project for the Philippine Forest Corp., which he previously headed, and not about any property near the Manila Bay area.
    ‘‘If there was mention of 15 hectares, then that was probably a conversation I had when I was still with PhilForest. They just spliced these tapes. All these allegations are not true,’’ he said.
    Lozada’s credibility first came under fire when Senator Miriam Defensor Santiago exposed his alleged anomalous dealings as president of PhilForest.
    Lozada allegedly awarded leasehold rights to at least 10 of his close relatives on 95 hectares of land in Antipolo City under the corporation’s 100-hectare ‘‘Lupang Hinirang’’ project.
    Santiago also questioned Lozada’s P15-million insurance paid for by PhilForest, a charge he quickly admitted but explained that the beneficiary was the corporation and not him directly.
    Apart from the irregular purchase of 35 pure-bred Australian Boer goats worth P325,000, which he admitted when questioned by Santiago, Lozada also reportedly made extravagant use of the corporation’s funds for the purchase of a P1.9-million Toyota Camry 3.5Q and a P1.4-million Toyota Hi-Lux.

Transcript of Lozada-de Venecia Wiretapped Conversation