Federalism/Parliamentary or stick na lang sa Presidential form of gov't.

[dbuzz]

aywan ko kung mayroon nang thread na ganito
but anyways, ano-ano ba ang mapala ng taong bayan sa any of them. anyway, sanay na tayo sa presidential

ito sabi ng mga expeto sa ganito:

A federal system shifts the balance toward the central government. The regions still have some independent authority, and they can pass many of their own laws and taxes; however, the federal government has a much greater role to play in regulating trade, commerce, labour/education/environmental laws, and the like. The federal government is rather more powerful than a confederal one. Still, the regions retain some control, and there are usually specific powers that the regions have, but the federal government does not. However, the federal constitution has final authority; states cannot act directly against the principles of the national government's policies on rights, etc.

a parliamentary government fuses two branches of government, the executive (who executes, or carries out, the laws) and the legislature (which passes laws). In a presidential system like that of the USA, these powers are divided between a president and a congress. In a parliamentary system, the leader of the majority party in the parliament (the Prime Minister) leads both the parliament in its development of laws and the bureaucracy (government departments) that carry out these laws and enact policies to meet the standards the laws demand. Thus, the prime minister runs both the government agencies and the legislature (by being the leader of his party). In a parliamentary system, majority usually rules, so any party (or coalition of parties) that can come up with a majority of seats in the parliament can pick one of its legislators to be leader and prime minister, and then carry out its policies as it sees fit (while respecting the constitution and the will of the judiciary) until the next election (which can usually be held at variable intervals, unlike presidential systems, which have a set schedule).

[1D4LV]

imho, it would only somehow distribute corruption in the government via the governor, et. al, if the local governments are corrupt. imagine, they have their own budgets, their own laws, police, etc.

it will work if the local government heads are really good and are there for service.

i don't know which one will work for us. i think the better one for us is a parliamentary where we can remove the prime minister without fuzz if he/she is not performing well. the only thing i can see in a parliamentary form is kung ally ng prime minister ang lahat or majority the parliament.

[CVT]

imho, it would only somehow distribute corruption in the government via the governor, et. al, if the local governments are corrupt. imagine, they have their own budgets, their own laws, police, etc.

it will work if the local government heads are really good and are there for service.


i don't know which one will work for us. i think the better one for us is a parliamentary where we can remove the prime minister without fuzz if he/she is not performing well. the only thing i can see in a parliamentary form is kung ally ng prime minister ang lahat or majority the parliament.

Diyan sana titiba si JDV sa kanyang Rainbow Coalition.... Wala na siyang pag-asa maging head ng government by popular vote.... Ngayon, wala na rin siyang pag-asa dahil he fell out of grace (or gloria).....

6610:secret:

[1D4LV]

imho, it would only somehow distribute corruption in the government via the governor, et. al, if the local governments are corrupt. imagine, they have their own budgets, their own laws, police, etc.

it will work if the local government heads are really good and are there for service.

i don't know which one will work for us. i think the better one for us is a parliamentary where we can remove the prime minister without fuzz if he/she is not performing well. the only thing i can see in a parliamentary form is kung ally ng prime minister ang lahat or majority the parliament.

[shadow]

kahit ano pang form of gov't kung sila-sila pa rin ang naka pwesto pareho lang...

kung gusto palitan form of gov't ni GMA, after 2010, para wala na siya sa pwesto...sneaky yan gagawin nila GMA cha-cha para ma-extend term niya.

[LexTer]

kahit ano pang form of gov't kung sila-sila pa rin ang naka pwesto pareho lang....

eto din paniwala ko. kahit anong form of gov't pa yan kung ang tao na nakaupo e sila-sila din. ganun din yan e.

[Isuzoom]

kahit ano basta ako ang hari.

[dbuzz]

so ang federalism, ang mga namumuno ay mga proponents o federalist o sa madalit sabi mga gobernador ngayon.

pwede silang mag impose ng sariling nilang rules gaya ng driver license mo eh valid dito pero sa kabilang bayan ay hindi.

may coding dito pero doon wala.. aba eh parang nangyayari na yan sa republic of makati ah.
(January 2, 1995 Makati became an independent city by virtue of Republic Act 7854.)

Sec. 4. General Powers of the City. - The City shall have a common seal and may alter the same at pleasure. It shall exercise the powers to levy taxes and close or open public roads, streets, alleys, parks or squares. It may take, purchase, receive, hold, lease, convey, and dispose of real and personal property for the general interest of the City, condemn private property for public use, contract and be contracted with, sue and be sued, prosecute and defend to final judgment and execution suits wherein said City is a party, and exercise all the powers as are granted to corporations and/or hereinafter conferred.

teka mukhang angkot sa mga rebelding muslim yan ah. baka nga yan ang sagot para tumigil na itong mga kaguluhann sa mindanao.

[safeorigin]

the only advantage of a federal from in ou country is the fact that we are very much culturally diverse. one law may not apply to province A, but is applicable to province B which is what those places need. besides that, incase cha cha will be on the move, gma's term is gonna be over coz it's time consuming. i doubt that she'll be using it at her advantage since it will be pointless for her to support her presidentiable and she already saw what happened to the bush administration. other than that, it's already been expected ever since since the post aquino presidents took power. they all see the same problems.
another point is that the local government will be more transparent and you can tell if who's corrupt or not since this kind of government is more on a performance note rather than of airtime chitty chat note.

[v6dreamer]

kahit ano pang form of gov't kung sila-sila pa rin ang naka pwesto pareho lang...

kung gusto palitan form of gov't ni GMA, after 2010, para wala na siya sa pwesto...sneaky yan gagawin nila GMA cha-cha para ma-extend term niya.

Plus one ito. Tama ang sabi mo, kahit anong form's of goverment if the politicians run the goverment itself never respect the law, what,s the use!

[shadow]

the only thing i can see in a parliamentary form is kung ally ng prime minister ang lahat or majority the parliament.

which is highly likely na mangyari kung ngayon lang nga walang makalusot na impeachment basta hawak mo mga Congressmen....

ok siguro Federalism but it should happen after 2010 isabay na sa Presidential election yun pag vote natin ng mga members for con-con...

[vito corleone]

i clicked "parliamentary federalism" as being apt to the diversity of our regions; but also believes that, whatever form of government, it depends on the public officials (will they be corrupt or not?) and the people (will they let corruption flourish infront of their eyes, or worse, be a part of the corruption?)

[CVT]

Sa Federal Parliamentary,- magiging maliit ang tsansa na maiboto bilang PM ang isang popular na aktor.... Unless,- marami siyang maging kaalyado sa Parliament.

6610:secret:

[True Faith]

Di problema yung government structure. The terrible problem is the Filipino politicians who think they are God-given gift to their Pinoy constituents...

A new type of leaders are needed and not a new form of government.

Magastos kasi ang federal. maraming layer na naman ng bureaucracy ang madadagdag...

[CVT]

Sa Federal Parliamentary,- magiging maliit ang tsansa na maiboto bilang PM ang isang popular na aktor.... Unless,- marami siyang maging kaalyado sa Parliament.

6610:secret:

[safeorigin]

which why japan is too prosperous anywho, the reason why the country is corrupt is not only by the officials but the people who constitute it. voters will sell their vote yet still, they're the same people who rant on corruption. talk about mass hypocrisy

[grecoski]

I want to share this song from Francism. Mga totoong nangyayari sa bayan natin, "Nilamon ng Sistema":

"MERONG AKONG KILALA ANG PANGALAN AY PAMELA, NAGHAHANAP NG TRABAHO LUMUWAS
SIYA NG MAYNILA, AKO'Y NAG-ALALA SAPAGKAT HINDI NIYA NALALAMAN NA ANG BUHAY
SA MAYNILA AY 'DI BASTA-BASTA LANG, MGA BUWITRE ANG NAGLILIPARAN LUMILIPAD
SA MAY SIYUDAD NAG-AANTAY NA LAMANG, BUBOT INOSENTE BATANG-BATA WALA PANG
BENTE KATORSE ANYOS LANG AT MARAMI NG KLIYENTE, NILOKO SIYA NG REKRUTER
HINAMAK AT WANASAK ANG KANYANG KINABUKASAN AY TULUYAN NG NAWARAK

ITO NAMAN ANG ISTORYA NANG ISANG BATANG GUMAGALA, SAMPUNG TAONG GULANG
PALANG NAGKA-HINAHINALA, ANG KILOS NG MUSMOS DAHIL LASING NANAMAN SI ITAY
AT SIYA'Y PINAG-BUHATAN NG KAMAY, SI INAY NAGSUSUGAL DOON SA MADYUNGAN
NAPAKASAKIT KAPAG WALANG HUMAHAGKAN, LUMAYAS SA KANILA AT NAG-ALSABALUTAN TUMAMBAY KASAMA NG MGA ISTAMBAY SA LANSANGAN, DIYAN SA KANTO SUMASAMA KAHIT
KANINO ISIPIN NINYO KUNG SINO ANG MAY SALA DITO

ANG ATING KABABAIHAN AY NAGSISILIPARAN PATUNGO SA IBANG BANSA SAAN SA [COLOR=orange ! important][COLOR=orange ! important]JAPAN[/COLOR]
MATULUNGAN LAMANG MAI-AHON SA KAHIRAPAN ANG PAMILYANG UMAASA SA KANILA LAMANG
ILAN SA KANILA ANG UMUWING LUHAAN INABUSO,MINALTRATO AT SAKA SINAKTAN TIGILAN
NA ANG GANITONG PARAAN NANGPAMUMUHAY NG ATING KABABAIHAN, MASISI [COLOR=orange ! important][COLOR=orange ! important]BA[/COLOR][/COLOR] SILA O
DAPAT KAAWAN KASALANAN [COLOR=orange ! important][COLOR=orange ! important]BA[/COLOR][/COLOR] NILA O KASAL[/COLOR]ANAN NG BAYAN?"

[grecoski]

kahit ano pang "uri" ng gobyerno yan kung kurap din mga mamamalakad wala rin patutunguhan. pagbutihin na muna nila mga ginagawa nila baka sakaling yun ang magpabago sa bansa natin kesa kung ano anong kalokohan ang iniisip. problema pa sarili lang yata iniisip nila.

[c_cube]

yung mga nakaupo ang may diperensya, sila dapat ang palitan at hindi ang sistema.

[dbuzz]

Before changing anything in the form of government, why don't we first change the electoral system? All legal-aged citizens can practice the right to suffrage(popularity contest) but only taxpayers' votes should decide who sits in elected positions that will run the country. I'm sure those who want to vote will now want to pay taxes...he-he.

The supporting ratification to this is the commensurating of the weight of the vote to the amount of tax paid by the individual. If you pay more taxes, your vote has more weight.

Ain't this better than changing the form of government now?

so charter change pa rin yun.

kahit ano pang "uri" ng gobyerno yan kung kurap din mga mamamalakad wala rin patutunguhan. pagbutihin na muna nila mga ginagawa nila baka sakaling yun ang magpabago sa bansa natin kesa kung ano anong kalokohan ang iniisip. problema pa sarili lang yata iniisip nila.

yes totoo yun but something has to come up or to be changed kasi nga tayo lang ang naiiwan sa mga kasabayan natin, in fact lamang tayo doon sa mga yun eh pero ngayon eh mas unlad sila kaysa atin. ang hirap tanggapin.

yung mga nakaupo ang may diperensya, sila dapat ang palitan at hindi ang sistema.

naka ilang palit ng naka-upo na ba tayo? eh mukhang running in circles lang since then eh. sabi nga ni CVT

Sa Federal Parliamentary,- magiging maliit ang tsansa na maiboto bilang PM ang isang popular na aktor.... Unless,- marami siyang maging kaalyado sa Parliament.

o diba isang bagay na rin yun na mawala sa sistema natin?