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    Diba sinabi na din ni Jun Lozada na may iregularidad syang mga transaksyon noong nasa gobyerno sya? Eh baket ngayon panay praise sa kanya na sya daw ay hero? Dahil lang ba sya ang star witness sa NBN deal?

    Ang bumabagabag sa akin ay, ganito na ba values natin? Kung magnakaw ng isang milyon ok lang pag hundreds of millions or billions hindi na?

    Due process ba ang ginagawang pangdinig sa Senado? Baket hindi diretso sa korte ang pangdinig sa kaso na yan?

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    he will be,

    pag natanggal si GMA...

    laughing stock sya, pag walang gumalaw sa mga sundalo..

    malapit na 2010 kasi, mga presidentiables are cautious, naghahanap na sila ngmagaling na psychic, spin docs, and the likes

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    pinoy mentality lang yan. mga duwag kasi kahit alam ang kabulukan. so sya yun naglakas loob kaya tingin sa kanya hero pero wala naman talaga sya ginawang kabayanihan (para sa kin) nagsabi lang sya ng katotohanan

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    Quote Originally Posted by badsekktor View Post
    pinoy mentality lang yan. mga duwag kasi kahit alam ang kabulukan. so sya yun naglakas loob kaya tingin sa kanya hero pero wala naman talaga sya ginawang kabayanihan (para sa kin) nagsabi lang sya ng katotohanan
    True but it's not that simple. By telling the truth he is challenging a lot of very powerful people who can very easily have him silenced.

    Hindi madali yung ginawa nya lalo na't pamilyado sya. He took a big risk no just on his life but to his family too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badsekktor View Post
    pinoy mentality lang yan. mga duwag kasi kahit alam ang kabulukan. so sya yun naglakas loob kaya tingin sa kanya hero pero wala naman talaga sya ginawang kabayanihan (para sa kin) nagsabi lang sya ng katotohanan
    True but it's not that simple. By telling the truth he is challenging a lot of very powerful people who can very easily have him silenced.

    Hindi madali yung ginawa nya lalo na't pamilyado sya. He took a big risk not just on his life but to his family too.

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    totally agree with you bro jpatricks1.

    how many here would risk not only
    their lives but also their family's
    just to tell the truth?

    madaling sabihin pero mahirap gawin.
    mas madaling tumahimik na lang at
    mag-enjoy kung di ka naman apektado.
    buti na lang at apektado ang kanyang
    konsiyensiya. as far as i know, he wasn't
    coerced into doing what he is doing. i
    can only hope that it was indeed God
    who convicted him to come out into
    the open.

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    hapitan kasi ang oposisyon kaya walang naniniwala kay lozada e
    nagmumuka kasing politika

    pwedeng nagsasabi siya ng totoo, pero ginagamit naman to ng oposisyon

    ano ba talaga ang katotohanan? malabo e, sawa na mga tao

    .02

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    If you can't see why he's not being tagged as a hero, then you're just as blind as the others who couldn't care less while Pandak and her minions while they are screwing us.

    Inamin naman ni Lozada na may sabit din siya, and it takes courage for someone to admit that. Lahat naman ng kumalaban kay Pandak tsaka kay Fat Bastard, either nakakulong or nabayaran or harassed (by state agents, i.e. BIR, DOJ, NBI, PNP, AFP). After all, who in his right mind would want to challenge the state? May choice ka naman na manahimik na lang and live a peaceful life, yet he chose the road less traveled.

    Personally though, I think the "hero" label is overreaching. It's just that in a sea of criminality, decadence and abuse, the public is in search of people they want to label as heroes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by froshie1 View Post
    Due process ba ang ginagawang pangdinig sa Senado? Baket hindi diretso sa korte ang pangdinig sa kaso na yan?
    The Office of the Ombudsman is already conducting a parallel investigation; it's just a matter of consolidating the charges, since there are at least 7 filed against the respondents, including FG Mike Arroyo.

    Besides, magkaiba yung purpose ng Ombudsman at Senate, with the former reportedly saying that they will be using the latter's findings in pursuing the case, so technically the Senate is free to continue the hearings in aid of legislation.
    Last edited by Bogeyman; February 18th, 2008 at 08:17 PM.

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    How can you trust the Ombudsman, when it has only summoned government officials recently? Eh matagal na tong kasong ito. The Ombudsman can investigate cases motu propio (or on its own initiative), pero ngayon lang sila kumikilos!

    And remember, the Ombudsman cleared Abalos dun sa Comelec computerization deal. Kaya nga nag-resign si Simeon Marcelo eh. Ask around why re resigned. After the fall of Pandak, maybe he can tell his story.

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Lozada being tagged as a hero can you guys enlighten me.