Federal vs Parliamentary vs Presidential... Which is better?

[skyglider]

I've been reading about these forms of government. Most developed or first-world countries (Swiss, Japan, UK, SG) have adopted Parliamentary type of government.

Our politicians are against Charter Change and shifting to Federal from Presidential. Which do you think would suit us better?

[shadow]

Not the system but the people running it.


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[yebo]

Not the system but the people running it.


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yuuuuuuup! it's rhe same corrupt people again and again.

we need another revolution. and next time it needs to be bloody. for as long as the corrupt get away with their loot their children will follow and do worse. then and only then can you start anew.

[carwhacko]

Pano ba maiiwasan or mababawasan ang corruption? What if nawala na lahat ng corrupt individuals sa government tapos may mga pumalit sure ba tayo na hindi na sila magiging corrupt?


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[Mguy]

Federalism? In a place na uso ang nepotism sa probinsya and private armies? It would be a disaster.

I'm more for Parliamentary because it is easier to change the government should it falter.

[KingoftheNorth]

Federalism? In a place na uso ang nepotism sa probinsya and private armies? It would be a disaster.

I'm more for Parliamentary because it is easier to change the government should it falter.

IIRC, parliament is merely dissolved and reformed later with new elections. If it's the same clowns in Congress coming into power over and over again, we have a problem since all they do is musical chairs. Baka dapat pa one-shot deal types of elections or positions with no chance of reelection whatsoever to get rid of the bad apples and to give younger and fresher faces a chance to do better.

[Wh1stl3r]

Need to put pressure on corrupt pols. Name and shame them for any conspicuous luxury they consume in all forms of media every day. Make it impossible for them to enjoy the fruits of our labor.

Maybe we should have TMZ here. But only to harass pols, not celebrities.

[kisshmet]

IIRC, parliament is merely dissolved and reformed later with new elections. If it's the same clowns in Congress coming into power over and over again, we have a problem since all they do is musical chairs. Baka dapat pa one-shot deal types of elections or positions with no chance of reelection whatsoever to get rid of the bad apples and to give younger and fresher faces a chance to do better.

revising the constitution paves the way for the return of glory to power

dutertes old..glory is bored in congress

the current constitution isnt perfect but good enough just amend the economic provisions to open the gates to foreign investments

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[KingoftheNorth]

revising the constitution paves the way for the return of glory to power

dutertes old..glory is bored in congress

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Not really sure what you mean by this.

How does "glory to power" come about and what does it mean for the people?

[leonleon]

Not really sure what you mean by this.

How does "glory to power" come about and what does it mean for the people?

Glory = GMA = pandak = Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.

[kisshmet]

Not really sure what you mean by this.

How does "glory to power" come about and what does it mean for the people?

gloria arroyo cant go back to power under the current constitution

if they succeed in revising the constitution then they can perpetuate themselves in power

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[leonleon]

gloria arroyo cant go back to power under the current constitution

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Aalisin ba term limits and/or restrictions?

[kisshmet]

^walang term limit sa parliamentary form of govt

vote of "no confidence" can be bought

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[leonleon]

^walang term limit sa parliamentary form of govt

vote of "no confidence" can be bought

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Ah ok.

Paktay tayong lahat diyan.

[skyglider]

If we look at the 30 Richest Countries, most of the type of government are Parliamentary and Monarchy and not Presidential.

Baka sakaling umunlad tayo pag nagpalit ng gobyerno.

Ranking of 3 richest countries looking at GDP per capita - Business Insider

30. Japan — GDP per capita: $38,893 (£31,732) – Constitutional Monarchy
29. Finland — GDP per capita: $41,812 (£34,114) Parliamentary
28. France — GDP per capita: $42,384 (£34,581) – Premier-Presidential
27. United Kingdom — GDP per capita: $42,513 (£34,686) - Constitutional Monarchy
26. Oman — GDP per capita: $43,737 (£35,685) - Absolute Monarchy
25. Belgium — GDP per capita: $44,881 (£36,618) - Constitutional Monarchy
24. Canada — GDP per capita: $46,239 (£37,726) – Constitutional Monarchy
23. Denmark — GDP per capita: $46,602 (£38,022) - Constitutional Monarchy
22. Taiwan — GDP per capita: $47,790 (£38,991) – President-Parliamentary
21. Austria — GDP per capita: $47,856 (£39,045) - Parliamentary
20. Iceland — GDP per capita: $48,070 (£39,220) - Parliamentary
19. Germany — GDP per capita: $48,189 (£39,317) - Parliamentary
18. Australia — GDP per capita: $48,806 (£39,820) – Constitutional Monarchy
17. Sweden — GDP per capita: $49,678 (£40,532) - Constitutional Monarchy
16. Bahrain — GDP per capita: $50,302 (£41,041) - Constitutional Monarchy
15. The Netherlands — GDP per capita: $50,846 (£41,485) - Constitutional Monarchy
14. Saudi Arabia — GDP per capita: $54,078 (£44,122) – Absolute Monarchy
13. United States — GDP per capita: $57,293 (£46,745) – Federal
12. Hong Kong — GDP per capita: $58,094 (£47,375) - Administrative Region of China
11. Switzerland — GDP per capita: $59,375 (£48,420) – Directorial (Parliament)
10. San Marino — GDP per capita: $64,443 (£52,553) - Republican
9. United Arab Emirates — GDP per capita: $67,696 (£55,206)
8. Norway — GDP per capita: $69,296 (£56,510) - Constitutional Monarchy
7. Ireland — GDP per capita: $69,374 (£56,574) - Parliamentary
6. Kuwait — GDP per capita: $71,263 (£58,114) - Constitutional Monarchy
5. Brunei — GDP per capita: $79,710 (£65,003) - Absolute Monarchy
4. Singapore — GDP per capita: $87,082 (£71,015) - Parliamentary
3. Macao — GDP per capita: $96,147 (£78,407) – Administrative Region of China
2. Luxembourg — GDP per capita: $101,936 (£83,128) - Monarchy
1. Qatar — GDP per capita: $129,726 (£105,791) – Monarchy

[KingoftheNorth]

gloria arroyo cant go back to power under the current constitution

if they succeed in revising the constitution then they can perpetuate themselves in power

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It's not "Glory" who worries me. It's her entire entourage of monkey - *ss lawmakers.

[kisshmet]

If we look at the 30 Richest Countries, most of the type of government are Parliamentary and Monarchy and not Presidential.

Baka sakaling umunlad tayo pag nagpalit ng gobyerno.

Ranking of 3 richest countries looking at GDP per capita - Business Insider

30. Japan — GDP per capita: $38,893 (£31,732) – Constitutional Monarchy
29. Finland — GDP per capita: $41,812 (£34,114) Parliamentary
28. France — GDP per capita: $42,384 (£34,581) – Premier-Presidential
27. United Kingdom — GDP per capita: $42,513 (£34,686) - Constitutional Monarchy
26. Oman — GDP per capita: $43,737 (£35,685) - Absolute Monarchy
25. Belgium — GDP per capita: $44,881 (£36,618) - Constitutional Monarchy
24. Canada — GDP per capita: $46,239 (£37,726) – Constitutional Monarchy
23. Denmark — GDP per capita: $46,602 (£38,022) - Constitutional Monarchy
22. Taiwan — GDP per capita: $47,790 (£38,991) – President-Parliamentary
21. Austria — GDP per capita: $47,856 (£39,045) - Parliamentary
20. Iceland — GDP per capita: $48,070 (£39,220) - Parliamentary
19. Germany — GDP per capita: $48,189 (£39,317) - Parliamentary
18. Australia — GDP per capita: $48,806 (£39,820) – Constitutional Monarchy
17. Sweden — GDP per capita: $49,678 (£40,532) - Constitutional Monarchy
16. Bahrain — GDP per capita: $50,302 (£41,041) - Constitutional Monarchy
15. The Netherlands — GDP per capita: $50,846 (£41,485) - Constitutional Monarchy
14. Saudi Arabia — GDP per capita: $54,078 (£44,122) – Absolute Monarchy
13. United States — GDP per capita: $57,293 (£46,745) – Federal
12. Hong Kong — GDP per capita: $58,094 (£47,375) - Administrative Region of China
11. Switzerland — GDP per capita: $59,375 (£48,420) – Directorial (Parliament)
10. San Marino — GDP per capita: $64,443 (£52,553) - Republican
9. United Arab Emirates — GDP per capita: $67,696 (£55,206)
8. Norway — GDP per capita: $69,296 (£56,510) - Constitutional Monarchy
7. Ireland — GDP per capita: $69,374 (£56,574) - Parliamentary
6. Kuwait — GDP per capita: $71,263 (£58,114) - Constitutional Monarchy
5. Brunei — GDP per capita: $79,710 (£65,003) - Absolute Monarchy
4. Singapore — GDP per capita: $87,082 (£71,015) - Parliamentary
3. Macao — GDP per capita: $96,147 (£78,407) – Administrative Region of China
2. Luxembourg — GDP per capita: $101,936 (£83,128) - Monarchy
1. Qatar — GDP per capita: $129,726 (£105,791) – Monarchy

they are all trumped by the richest country in the world the USA with presidential form of govt and patriotic leaders..country first

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[KingoftheNorth]

If we look at the 30 Richest Countries, most of the type of government are Parliamentary and Monarchy and not Presidential.

Baka sakaling umunlad tayo pag nagpalit ng gobyerno.

Ranking of 3 richest countries looking at GDP per capita - Business Insider

30. Japan — GDP per capita: $38,893 (£31,732) – Constitutional Monarchy
29. Finland — GDP per capita: $41,812 (£34,114) Parliamentary
28. France — GDP per capita: $42,384 (£34,581) – Premier-Presidential
27. United Kingdom — GDP per capita: $42,513 (£34,686) - Constitutional Monarchy
26. Oman — GDP per capita: $43,737 (£35,685) - Absolute Monarchy
25. Belgium — GDP per capita: $44,881 (£36,618) - Constitutional Monarchy
24. Canada — GDP per capita: $46,239 (£37,726) – Constitutional Monarchy
23. Denmark — GDP per capita: $46,602 (£38,022) - Constitutional Monarchy
22. Taiwan — GDP per capita: $47,790 (£38,991) – President-Parliamentary
21. Austria — GDP per capita: $47,856 (£39,045) - Parliamentary
20. Iceland — GDP per capita: $48,070 (£39,220) - Parliamentary
19. Germany — GDP per capita: $48,189 (£39,317) - Parliamentary
18. Australia — GDP per capita: $48,806 (£39,820) – Constitutional Monarchy
17. Sweden — GDP per capita: $49,678 (£40,532) - Constitutional Monarchy
16. Bahrain — GDP per capita: $50,302 (£41,041) - Constitutional Monarchy
15. The Netherlands — GDP per capita: $50,846 (£41,485) - Constitutional Monarchy
14. Saudi Arabia — GDP per capita: $54,078 (£44,122) – Absolute Monarchy
13. United States — GDP per capita: $57,293 (£46,745) – Federal
12. Hong Kong — GDP per capita: $58,094 (£47,375) - Administrative Region of China
11. Switzerland — GDP per capita: $59,375 (£48,420) – Directorial (Parliament)
10. San Marino — GDP per capita: $64,443 (£52,553) - Republican
9. United Arab Emirates — GDP per capita: $67,696 (£55,206)
8. Norway — GDP per capita: $69,296 (£56,510) - Constitutional Monarchy
7. Ireland — GDP per capita: $69,374 (£56,574) - Parliamentary
6. Kuwait — GDP per capita: $71,263 (£58,114) - Constitutional Monarchy
5. Brunei — GDP per capita: $79,710 (£65,003) - Absolute Monarchy
4. Singapore — GDP per capita: $87,082 (£71,015) - Parliamentary
3. Macao — GDP per capita: $96,147 (£78,407) – Administrative Region of China
2. Luxembourg — GDP per capita: $101,936 (£83,128) - Monarchy
1. Qatar — GDP per capita: $129,726 (£105,791) – Monarchy

Not a good indicator IMHO.

The Philippines has shifted from Bicameral (1935 Constitution) to Unicameral (1973 Constitution Note: with Presidential law-making powers) to Bicameral (1986 Constitution) legislative forms and still we've been left behind by our regional counterparts.

It's not the form of government or legislature. It's really the trapos and their dynasties who have been hanging on to power too long.

[uls]

3. Macao — GDP per capita: $96,147 (£78,407) – Administrative Region of China

12. Hong Kong — GDP per capita: $58,094 (£47,375) - Administrative Region of China

Philippines -- Administrative Region of China

haha

[skyglider]

they are all trumped by the richest country in the world the USA with presidential form of govt and patriotic leaders..country first

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Somebody got his wish.

“I prefer a government run like hell by Filipinos to a government run like heaven by Americans.”

Nagmadali kasi kaya siguro ganito ang naging kultura nating mga pinoy ngayon.