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    #71
    Quote Originally Posted by xninjax View Post
    From some user in FB

    "WHETHER OUR GOVT LIKES IT OR NOT, WHETHER PRESIDENT AQUINO LIKES IT OR NOT, BY PH LAW, Sabah is Philippine territory. Republic Acts 5522 and 5446 stipulate recognition by Philippine law that Sabah is PH territory. Therefore the massacre of Filipinos in Sabah by Malaysian forces was committed on PH territory albeit disputed and under Malaysia de-facto control. Our government's collusion with a foreign government in the killing of our own people makes the act more than morally reprehensible.
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    At least itong mga namatay na ito may prinsipyo. May patriotism.... ipaglalaban ang alam nyang kanya. Magkamatayan man. Ganyan yung mga bayani before, look at them they're all dead. Mga duwag na lang at inutil na pinuno natira. We are being bullied cause we don't have the strength to defend ourselves, and we just allow them to take advantage of us.. When the country needs to go to war, how many of us here would be really ready to die for our country?
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    #72
    Quote Originally Posted by xninjax View Post
    From some user in FB
    "WHETHER OUR GOVT LIKES IT OR NOT, WHETHER PRESIDENT AQUINO LIKES IT OR NOT, BY PH LAW, Sabah is Philippine territory. Republic Acts 5522 and 5446 stipulate recognition by Philippine law that Sabah is PH territory. Therefore the massacre of Filipinos in Sabah by Malaysian forces was committed on PH territory albeit disputed and under Malaysia de-facto control. Our government's collusion with a foreign government in the killing of our own people makes the act more than morally reprehensible."
    Sounds like something that's straight out of the fundamentally left's mouth.
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    #73
    Gov?t intel eyes 3 groups abetting Sulu sultan?s claim | Inquirer News

    By Nikko Dizon
    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    1:29 am | Friday, March 1st, 2013

    Whether the heirs of the sultanate of Sulu acted on their own to reclaim Sabah or were instigated by an external force to do so, one thing is certain, according to government intelligence sources: It was a business that proved too big for the heirs to handle on their own.

    The sources said that the Philippine government’s policy on Sabah is to keep it in the back burner.

    But apparently “some people” want to push it forward now. And why now, at this time, is one of the questions government intelligence is looking into.

    The sources consistently mentioned three groups that appear to have taken advantage of the decision of the Kirams to pursue their Sabah claim.

    “These are groups that wanted to ride on the Kirams’ pursuit with their own interests in mind,” one of the sources said.

    Another source added: “There are a lot who can gain from this, not just in the Philippines but in Malaysia as well.”

    These “external factors,” as an Inquirer source described the groups, are one small faction that is in it for the money, an anti-Aquino administration group, and the Malaysian political opposition.

    “The Kirams planned to pursue their claim as early as last year. But they went to Lahad Datu also on the instigation of these groups,” the intelligence officer said.

    The small group supposedly goaded the Kirams to ask Malaysia for a higher rent on Sabah. If Malaysia gives in, this small group would allegedly have a share of the increase.

    The anti-administration group simply wants to discredit President Aquino and is using the peace process as a cause of disenchantment for the Kirams.

    “All those who do not like P-Noy (the President’s nickname) have joined forces. This is one way to really test how this administration will react (to such an issue). Whatever happens in Malaysia, there will be a backlash on us,” one source said.

    “In a way, whoever wants to disrupt the peace process or the gains of President Aquino has already won,” the source added.

    The third group is allegedly the Malaysian political opposition, which is gearing up for general elections that may be called before June.

    The intelligence officer said that one member of the Malaysian political opposition allied with Anwar Ibrahim was running for a post in Sabah.

    “Apparently, this politician was one of those who spoke with the Kirams. He supposedly gave the opposition’s support to the Kirams’ claim to Sabah,” the source said.

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    #74
    tapang tapang na susugod then hihingi ng tulong pag ipit na..pwe!

    papuntahin na si robin padilla doon...

    pera-pera lang yan...sigurado

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    #75
    There are bigger players that controls the situation, pawn lang yung mga nasa frontlines...

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    #76
    wala naman iba na dapat sisihin dyan sa problema na yan kundi yung original sultan ng sulo e. bakit siya pumirma ng lease sa british east indies company? una, business. pangalawa e kasi panay ang atake sa teritoryo nya ng mga kastila e di kumuha siya ng kakampi sa mga ingles. power play sana e ano, sige kastila sugurin mo ako kakampi ko ang british empire. o hayan, kumampi sa mas tuso pa sa demonyo e di nawalan siya ng teritoryo. tapos nung namatay na yung sultan na wala naman anak ang naging sultan wala din anak. so sino ang sultan ngayon? lahat sila nagaaway-away kung sino ang tunay na sultan e. watak-watak na sila. so meron pa bang sulu sultante/sulu nation? wala na, matagal nang wala.

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    #77
    5 Malaysian Police and 2 Royal Sulu Army died in the latest clashed in Sempona, 320km from Lahad Datu. Kala ko ba tapos na according to Malaysian Spokesperson in Malacanang.

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    #78
    Ano ba gusto mangyari our govt go to war with them..ulol nila, tapang tapang sumugod pag naipit hihingi ng tulong

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    #79
    Not sure kung me bahid ng propaganda to...

    Hostage taking, bullying villagers...sound familiar?

    What purpose could there be to gather up the villagers? For a picnic?

    The guy they killed got off easy.


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    Filipino in ambush of Malaysian cops beaten to death, says Sabah radio report

    Filipino in ambush of Malaysian cops beaten to death, says Sabah radio report | Inquirer Global Nation

    DIGOS CITY, Philippines–A middle-aged Filipino man, who was reportedly involved in the ambush of Malaysian police forces, in which five policemen including an officer was killed, was beaten to death by angry residents of a village in Sem****a early Sunday, radio reports from Sabah monitored here said.
    The radio stations, broadcasting on shortwave bands, said Sem****a police chief Mohammad Firdaus Francis Abdullah had not commented on the incident that took place in Senalang Lama village around 7 a.m.
    In a similar report, the Malaysian state media Bernama said its reporter in Sem****a had seen the bloodied cadaver of the man, who had an M-16 rifle when beaten to death.
    Bernama said the man remained unidentified but was thought to be in his 50s. Its reporter described the man as “big-sized and dressed in black.”
    The radio reports quoted villagers as saying the man, suspected to be a follower of Sulu Sultan Jamalul Kiram III, descended from a nearby hill on Sunday and fired his gun into the air.
    The villagers were reported to have said they overheard the man shouting that he was among those who ambushed the five policemen, who were sent to Sem****a early Saturday to conduct ground assessment following reports that armed men were spotted there hours before.
    The radio reports said the man even threatened villagers with harm unless they gathered in an open area.
    “As the man was trying to light a cigarette, the angry villagers mobbed him,” the reports said.
    They then hanged his body on a tree, the unidentified Bernama reporter, who happened to pass by the village on his way to a coverage in another village, some 30 kilometers from Senalang Lama, said.
    As this developed, Malaysian police’s Inspector General Ismail Omar went on air to say he had no information on the reported capture of four Malaysian officials by the “Sulu intruders.”
    Abraham Idjirani, a spokesperson for Jamalul Kiram III, was earlier quoted in reports by Manila-based media outfits that their followers in Siminul had taken four hostages, a police officer, two military officials and one government official.
    Idjirani was also quoted as saying two more men and two children were killed in the same incident that claimed the lives of five policemen in Siminul late Saturday.
    But Ismail said as of 6 p.m. Sunday, he had not received any verified report on the alleged hostage-taking incident and other claims by Idjirani.
    “No such information (Tiada apa-apa maklumat),” he said in Bahasa.
    In Kunak town, nearly 5,000 people had fled in the aftermath of the ambush-cum-clash in Siminul.
    In contrast, life has returned to normal in Felda Sahabat 17 in Lahad Datu, the radio reports in Bahasa said, as Malaysian security forces pushed farther away the “Sulu intruders (“penceroboh”).
    In another report, Bernama said shops had reopened on Saturday and people were flocking into them.
    Ismail said the renewed confidence of Lahad Datu residents came after they were assured the situation was under control.
    He confirmed the deployment of Malaysian soldiers to beef up the police’s capability.
    Ismail repeated his appeal to Sabahans not to believe in unverified reports, saying only the police and the military were authorized to issue updates on the efforts to address the “intrusion.”
    Bernama also quoted Malaysian Army commander Gen. Zulkifli Zainal Abidin as saying he and Ismail had been “mapping out operations.”
    “We can handle this situation by enforcing tight security,” Zulkifli reportedly said when asked about Idjirani’s claim that “thousands of the Sultan’s followers” from Jolo, Basilan and Tawi-Tawi were heading to Sabah to help their embattled comrades.
    Zulkifli had earlier said that members of the Sulu sultan’s “royal army” have shown combat experience “and their insurgency guerilla tactics are quite good, I would say.”
    The Moro National Liberation Front had confirmed that some of its members had joined Agbimuddin Kiram for the Sabah “homecoming.”
    The MNLF, had signed a peace pact with the Philippine government in 1996, after decades of rebellion, which saw many of its guerrillas become battle-tested men.
    Zulkifli said the group had snipers and this fact was observed as early as Friday, during the taking of Felda Sahabat 17 by Malaysian security forces.
    Although 12 of the “Sulu invaders” had been killed, two members of the elite Malaysian commando, VAT69, also died in the ambush-cum-clash.
    “They made sure we will not be able to go in without casualties,” he said.
    - See more at: Filipino in ambush of Malaysian cops beaten to death, says Sabah radio report | Inquirer Global Nation

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    #80
    People behind the kirams are now unraveling...boy saycon, Bert Gonzalez...mag instigators talaga...

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