We should have asserted the Sabah claimed long before. Even if it meant going to war with the British. Losing a war with England would have meant membership with the Commonwealth. Perhaps, we might be better off than we are today.
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February 24th, 2013 03:08 AM #2Yan ang problema if your military is Weak.
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You get pushed around by everyone. The Brits then, now the Chinese and the Malaysians.
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February 27th, 2013 06:19 PM #3Marcos planned to invade and reclaim back Sabah in the 70's if I'm not mistaken. I used to hear stories from my uncle who was part of the commando unit trained supposedly for the mission
I suppose we had a bad-ass military back then compared to our neighbors
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February 27th, 2013 06:51 PM #4I have to concur on this, may plan nga si Marcos. Hindi ata natuloy because he was focused na on declaring Martial law. Originally Posted by xninjax
Kuwento nga nang mga elders in the military.
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February 28th, 2013 12:27 AM #5Since when did we have a bad-ass military? Originally Posted by xninjax
Malaysia finished off their communist insurgency in 3 years, tayo more than 40 years hindi pa tapos.
Mahina ang PH military, and everyone in the region knows that, especially China.Last edited by hein; February 28th, 2013 at 12:29 AM.
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February 28th, 2013 01:42 AM #6If Sultan backs down... Most likely tuloy ang Bangsamoro entity... Will the Sultanate play along? Or manggugulo? Are they capable na manggulo ? Or kahit capable ba sila ay insignificant din dahil sa Sulu ay isolated from Mainland Mindanao kaya di ganoon kabilis mag spill over?
If Sultan plays hardball now and there are casualties... Pananagutin ni PNoy anf Sultan then what? Lalong mabura yung claim nila? Manggulo pa ba? Malamang tuloy pa rin Bangsamoro entity.... Whether mag sweep ang Team PNoy o hindi may also depend to an extent on the outcome nito...
Weird lang talaga... Mahina talaga sa diplomasya ang PNoy admin... Wala sila binigay na posssible graceful exit sa sultan... Even just to save face.... Same thing with the isssue against china...
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February 28th, 2013 04:09 PM #7 Originally Posted by hein
50s to 60s era. Bad ass ang AFP. Bully pa ang Pinas sa Malaysia at Indonesia. Puro fly-by ng F-86 Sabre pinoy pilots sa borders.
Ngayon. Olats na. Kamote pa.
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February 28th, 2013 04:29 PM #8San ba ang loyalty ng Malaysian tausogs sa clan nila o sa bansa kung san sila nakatira?
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February 28th, 2013 04:59 PM #9dyan takot ang malaysia. kasi considered na nth class citizen ang mga tausog at badjao. parang indian caste system din kasi sa kanila - sa taas yung bumiputra, then yung malay muslim sa borneo, sunod ang mga dayak, badjao at tausug, tapos dayak christian and malay christian at indian blood, at sa pinaka-ilalim mga malay-chinese. Originally Posted by oliver1013
alam nila kung paano nila alipustahin ang mga tausug. alam nila kung kaninong lupa yung ni-land grab nila at ginawang taniman ng palm oil. halos hindi makapasok sa high school ang mga badjao at tausug, pupunuin muna ang quota ng nasa taas bago sila (mahirap na baka matuto, di ba. keep them dumb and bare foot.)
yan, tignan nyo ingat na ingat ang malaysian government. isang maling putok lang yan civil war sila dyan.
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February 28th, 2013 05:28 PM #10Apparently, a lot of them claim to be either "Sabahoanans" or Malaysians with no interest at all in becoming part of the Philippine State. Originally Posted by oliver1013
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February 27th, 2013 06:59 PM #11based on the record of british colony-caring in asia, india, and the middle east, the philippines would probably be three independent states now, based on luzon, visayas, and mindanao... heh heh. Originally Posted by Gerbo
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February 27th, 2013 07:12 PM #12 Originally Posted by xninjax
nakita ko sa FB, na ang plano talaga ni Macoy eh talagang bantayan ang Sabah, ang ginawa ni Ninoy sinabi sa Malaysian Government yung plano ni macoy kaya ayun massacre ang inabot. "Jabidah" massacre ata yun Originally Posted by Ry_Tower
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February 27th, 2013 09:00 PM #13I still remember my dad's and uncles' story of how Ninoy divulged Marcos' plan to retake Sabah. Which subsequently led to the Jabidah Massacre. Originally Posted by chrismarte
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February 28th, 2013 07:50 AM #14And i think that also catapulted Ninoy into national consciousness... Dun sya simula nakilala... Originally Posted by falken
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February 28th, 2013 05:07 PM #15nope, senator na sya nun. youngest reporter in korean war, youngest mayor, youngest governor, youngest senator. kilala na siya nuon. ang mga kalaban nya sana sa 1972 elections e si doy laurel o si salonga. yun lang e may ibag balak si makoy, nag-declare ng martial law. Originally Posted by wowiesy
as for Jabidah, hindi naman si Ninoy ang cause ng massacre, siya lang ang nag-bulgar. si Makoy ang nagpa-patay sa mga Jabidah commandos para walang ebidensiya. at yun ang umpisa ng moro revolt, na naging MNLF ni Nur Misuari (na isa sa ankan ng mga Kiram).
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