Rise of Grace Poe

[Monseratto]

Quo warranto petition vs Poe's qualification to be a senator has been junked by the Senate Electoral Trubunal...5-4.

Natural born and meets the residency question...

Five members of the Senate Electoral Tribunal voted to junk the disqualification case against Senator Grace Poe over her residency, two sources have confirmed.

“Tapos na, 5-4 denied (It’s over, 5-4 voted to deny it),” a reliable source told reporters through a text message on Tuesday.

The source said that except for Senator Nancy Binay, the five other senator members of the SET voted against the petition. The five were Senators Vicente “Tito” Sotto III, Loren Legarda, Cynthia Villar, Paolo Benigno “Bam” Aquino IV, and Pia Cayetano. Three Supreme Court justices, SET chairman Senior Justice Antonio Carpio, Associate Justice Teresita Leonardo-de Castro and Associate Justice Arturo Brion, and Binay, voted to uphold the petition.
Another source from Poe’s camp confirmed the decision of the SET.

“Denied ang petition ni David (David’s petition was denied),” the second source said in a separate text message, referring to petitioner Rizalino David.

No other details are available as of posting time.

Read more: BREAKING: SET denies disqualification case vs Grace Poe–sources | Inquirer News
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[Juan Martinez]

all members of the SC in the senate electoral tribunal voted to uphold the petition tells you something.

[macsd]

Exactly senior JM. The justices review and act by the merits, yung mga senatong, they act by allegiance. Yung katulong , she act by making sure talo na isang kalaban ng tatay nya. Putek na katulong yan

Pag sampa ng ibang kaso on her residency sa SC, sa kangkungan na dadamputin itong si GP.

[badkuk]

Earlier we were speculating how the senators would vote; while there was some doubt on the others, we had no doubt how she would vote.

[vinj]

all members of the SC in the senate electoral tribunal voted to uphold the petition tells you something.

My exact thoughts when i saw the list of those who voted to uphold the petition (of course we know that the basis for Sen. Binay's decision is quite different though).

[dnomyar]

all members of the SC in the senate electoral tribunal voted to uphold the petition tells you something.

It may be a political issue rather than legal but precisely the reason why we are lagging in development. I would.take it that natural law or God's law prevailed. We are seeing destiny in the offing.

[Gumusut_Amige]

It may be a political issue rather than legal but precisely the reason why we are lagging in development. I would.take it that natural law or God's law prevailed. We are seeing destiny in the offing.

di ba may iba pang disqualification case pa na dapat malusutan ni GP?

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It may be a political issue rather than legal but precisely the reason why we are lagging in development. I would.take it that natural law or God's law prevailed. We are seeing destiny in the offing.

di ba may iba pang disqualification case na dapat malusutan ni GP?

[dr. d]

so... is she rising, or is she falling?

[baludoy]

di ba may iba pang disqualification case pa na dapat malusutan ni GP?

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di ba may iba pang disqualification case na dapat malusutan ni GP?

4 pa na disqualification cases kelangan niya harapin

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di ba may iba pang disqualification case pa na dapat malusutan ni GP?

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di ba may iba pang disqualification case na dapat malusutan ni GP?

4 pa na disqualification cases kelangan niya harapin

[macsd]

4 pa na disqualification cases kelangan niya harapin

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4 pa na disqualification cases kelangan niya harapin

These are all related to her presidential candidacy. The SET ruling is only about her senatorial legality.

[macsd]

It may be a political issue rather than legal but precisely the reason why we are lagging in development. I would.take it that natural law or God's law prevailed. We are seeing destiny in the offing.

Right now it's a political decision but once an appeal is raised going into SC, it becomes a legal matter and there all this political stupidity will stop. Look at who are the political components of SET, it speaks less of their credibility much less their legal know how.

[dnomyar]

Right now it's a political decision but once an appeal is raised going into SC, it becomes a legal matter and there all this political stupidity will stop. Look at who are the political components of SET, it speaks less of their credibility much less their legal know how.

Yes, dec. 10 will be a date with destiny. If the SC rules in GP's favor then she is guided by the grace of God. Just a hunch.

[chua_riwap]

May supreme court pa raw.

[Juan Martinez]

at the SC, there is a great probability that GP may be declared a natural-born citizen, but she cannot possibly pass muster on the question relative to her residency.

[niky]

at the SC, there is a great probability that GP may be declared a natural-born citizen, but she cannot possibly pass muster on the question relative to her residency.

I agree with your analysis. I've never understood the hullaballoo about her being natural born... it was pretty obvious she was... and any argument she wasn't was plain pedantry... bordering on bigotry.

But the residency requirements are a bigger obstacle to hurdle, andsince it's a cut-and-dried time requirement, she may be outta luck. If there's one thing Aquino has done right in the past few years, it's in his selection of Justices. They haven't acted beholden to anybody... so far. And I doubt they'll bow to Grace, whatever the public pressure.

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at the SC, there is a great probability that GP may be declared a natural-born citizen, but she cannot possibly pass muster on the question relative to her residency.

I agree with your analysis. I've never understood the hullaballoo about her being natural born... it was pretty obvious she was... and any argument she wasn't was plain pedantry... bordering on bigotry.

But the residency requirements are a bigger obstacle to hurdle, andsince it's a cut-and-dried time requirement, she may be outta luck. If there's one thing Aquino has done right in the past few years, it's in his selection of Justices. They haven't acted beholden to anybody... so far. And I doubt they'll bow to Grace, whatever the public pressure.

[wowiesy]

at the SC, there is a great probability that GP may be declared a natural-born citizen, but she cannot possibly pass muster on the question relative to her residency.

I haven't read the actual laws mismo.. nabasa ko lang mga ilang Opinion columns from different papers... curious lang ako:

sa natural born issue:
1. kung issue was foundling (napulot lang sya)... may malinaw na batas naman daw di ba na pag foundling.. kung saang bansa sya nakita... doon yung presumption ng citizenship nya... and is it in the law / constitution na natural born din ang status nya kahit foundling? if yes.. then malinaw nga..

2. i think issue for me din (although i haven't done research) is yung point na nag pledge sya ng allegiance sa US... now.. if the definition of natural born citizen is wala ka na dapat ginawa.. natural yung pagiging filipino.. then.. there's something off here.. sa side ng US citizenship nya... kailangan pa nya irevoke yun.. para makakuha ng Filipino citizenship uli... by having to do something to acquire filipino citizenship.. doesn't that fall under naturalized filipino? not sure kung nakalagay ba sa dual citizenship law natin.. na pag nag apply for dual citizenship.. specifically ba nakalagay sa batas na maibabalik yung una nyang filipino citizenship (whether natural born or naturalized)? although i think pag naturalized filipino hindi maka apply ng dual citizenship?

sa residency.. yan.. i suppose the documents presented will speak for themselves... although ang mahirap... gaano ka authentic yung mga documents na ipre present?

overall.. i think the Senators voted across political lines... while the SC justices purely voted on legal basis... parang Corona Impeachment trial uli ito...

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at the SC, there is a great probability that GP may be declared a natural-born citizen, but she cannot possibly pass muster on the question relative to her residency.

I haven't read the actual laws mismo.. nabasa ko lang mga ilang Opinion columns from different papers... curious lang ako:

sa natural born issue:
1. kung issue was foundling (napulot lang sya)... may malinaw na batas naman daw di ba na pag foundling.. kung saang bansa sya nakita... doon yung presumption ng citizenship nya... and is it in the law / constitution na natural born din ang status nya kahit foundling? if yes.. then malinaw nga..

2. i think issue for me din (although i haven't done research) is yung point na nag pledge sya ng allegiance sa US... now.. if the definition of natural born citizen is wala ka na dapat ginawa.. natural yung pagiging filipino.. then.. there's something off here.. sa side ng US citizenship nya... kailangan pa nya irevoke yun.. para makakuha ng Filipino citizenship uli... by having to do something to acquire filipino citizenship.. doesn't that fall under naturalized filipino? not sure kung nakalagay ba sa dual citizenship law natin.. na pag nag apply for dual citizenship.. specifically ba nakalagay sa batas na maibabalik yung una nyang filipino citizenship (whether natural born or naturalized)? although i think pag naturalized filipino hindi maka apply ng dual citizenship?

sa residency.. yan.. i suppose the documents presented will speak for themselves... although ang mahirap... gaano ka authentic yung mga documents na ipre present?

overall.. i think the Senators voted across political lines... while the SC justices purely voted on legal basis... parang Corona Impeachment trial uli ito...

[Stigg ma]

I haven't read the actual laws mismo.. nabasa ko lang mga ilang Opinion columns from different papers... curious lang ako:

sa natural born issue:
1. kung issue was foundling (napulot lang sya)... may malinaw na batas naman daw di ba na pag foundling.. kung saang bansa sya nakita... doon yung presumption ng citizenship nya... and is it in the law / constitution na natural born din ang status nya kahit foundling? if yes.. then malinaw nga..

2. i think issue for me din (although i haven't done research) is yung point na nag pledge sya ng allegiance sa US... now.. if the definition of natural born citizen is wala ka na dapat ginawa.. natural yung pagiging filipino.. then.. there's something off here.. sa side ng US citizenship nya... kailangan pa nya irevoke yun.. para makakuha ng Filipino citizenship uli... by having to do something to acquire filipino citizenship.. doesn't that fall under naturalized filipino? not sure kung nakalagay ba sa dual citizenship law natin.. na pag nag apply for dual citizenship.. specifically ba nakalagay sa batas na maibabalik yung una nyang filipino citizenship (whether natural born or naturalized)? although i think pag naturalized filipino hindi maka apply ng dual citizenship?

sa residency.. yan.. i suppose the documents presented will speak for themselves... although ang mahirap... gaano ka authentic yung mga documents na ipre present?

overall.. i think the Senators voted across political lines... while the SC justices purely voted on legal basis... parang Corona Impeachment trial uli ito...

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I haven't read the actual laws mismo.. nabasa ko lang mga ilang Opinion columns from different papers... curious lang ako:

sa natural born issue:
1. kung issue was foundling (napulot lang sya)... may malinaw na batas naman daw di ba na pag foundling.. kung saang bansa sya nakita... doon yung presumption ng citizenship nya... and is it in the law / constitution na natural born din ang status nya kahit foundling? if yes.. then malinaw nga..

2. i think issue for me din (although i haven't done research) is yung point na nag pledge sya ng allegiance sa US... now.. if the definition of natural born citizen is wala ka na dapat ginawa.. natural yung pagiging filipino.. then.. there's something off here.. sa side ng US citizenship nya... kailangan pa nya irevoke yun.. para makakuha ng Filipino citizenship uli... by having to do something to acquire filipino citizenship.. doesn't that fall under naturalized filipino? not sure kung nakalagay ba sa dual citizenship law natin.. na pag nag apply for dual citizenship.. specifically ba nakalagay sa batas na maibabalik yung una nyang filipino citizenship (whether natural born or naturalized)? although i think pag naturalized filipino hindi maka apply ng dual citizenship?

sa residency.. yan.. i suppose the documents presented will speak for themselves... although ang mahirap... gaano ka authentic yung mga documents na ipre present?

overall.. i think the Senators voted across political lines... while the SC justices purely voted on legal basis... parang Corona Impeachment trial uli ito...

NO TO GRACE POE AND ALL OTHER ALREADY ELECTED GOVT OFFICIALS WHO SAYS THEY WILL IMPROVE THINGS WHEN THEY BECOME ELECTED

why wait to be elected again to a higher position to improve things when in fact you are already there in the govt and has power and authority to do it!

what we need is a Duterte, a person who is already elected, doing the changes and improvement right now and does not wait to be elected to a higher position!

[shadow]

NO TO GRACE POE AND ALL OTHER ALREADY ELECTED GOVT OFFICIALS WHO SAYS THEY WILL IMPROVE THINGS WHEN THEY BECOME ELECTED

why wait to be elected again to a higher position to improve things when in fact you are already there in the govt and has power and authority to do it!

what we need is a Duterte, a person who is already elected, doing the changes and improvement right now and does not wait to be elected to a higher position!

Kulit! Hinde nga tatakbo. You need somebody who will not run. Ano ba?


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[Monseratto]

As with all survey...always carry a bag of salt... Poe- Chiz leading.

[Stigg ma]

Kulit! Hinde nga tatakbo. You need somebody who will not run. Ano ba?


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