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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    at this point in the life of our republic, we need a leader who has the guts, the moral courage, the personal values that could catapult us to our rightful place in history as a Filipino people. a leader who is not afraid to go against her benefactor. a leader who is courageous to speak her mind even if speaking it will put the president and his administration in bad light.
    we don't need somebody who cussed the lowly employees of wackwack where, as a result, his membership was suspended for sometime. we don't need somebody who called the mother of all crooks "ma'am janet." we don't need somebody, when asked by senator grace poe during the mamasampano senate investigation to speak his mind, could only utter timidly "you could have shot your howitzers in my position." his men and he said only that? he could have damned pangilinan to his heart's content. no, we don't need a leader like that.
    panglinan? if he's military I dont think its his place to castigate him, it's gazmin's role and besides if the sitting President, commander in chief, the most powerful person in govt, didn't say anything about the military what more a mere cabinet secretary.

    if he's probably the President and didnt do what you mentioned then I will agree with you, cabinet secretaries are the President's alter ego. pwede ba naman kontrahin mo yun President or pangunahan mo? if you wanna do that eh di mag resign ka na lang

    you can't compare an independent Senator to a cabinet secretary... senator can do, say what they want against the administration but a cabinet secretary has to toe the line
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    well, he was put out of the loop, he should have resigned, but, no, he didn't. he doesn't have the backbone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    well, he was put out of the loop, he should have resigned, but, no, he didn't. he doesn't have the backbone.
    he was not the only one. don't single him out... gazmin, espina...even the mitary themselves..

    you were a police officer once, I guess you know the big difference you can contradict your commander before compare to now you out of the service and as a lawyer.

    same thing with a sitting senator and a cabinet secretary
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    My heart goes to GP for her integrity and clean image but my instinct tells me Mar would win if it is just a 1-1 battle (Mar vs Binay). Throwing in more names would just tip the scale in Binay's favor. There must only be 1 admin candidate and I wouldnt even care who it is so long as the Binay family will not reign in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    My heart goes to GP for her integrity and clean image but my instinct tells me Mar would win if it is just a 1-1 battle (Mar vs Binay). Throwing in more names would just tip the scale in Binay's favor. There must only be 1 admin candidate and I wouldnt even care who it is so long as the Binay family will not reign in this country.
    Agree.... Basta di dapat manalo si Binay kaya dapat tsikoteers isa lang ang iboboto

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    they all should have resigned, but resignation does not augur well to secretary roxas' presidential ambition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    they all should have resigned, but resignation does not augur well to secretary roxas' presidential ambition.
    exactly! the sacrifice that he has to make... I can really see, he would have a different approach to all the admin's controversy if he's the President but he had to bite his tongue and endure everything follow and support the President. he can only advice but the ultimate decision still lies with the President.

    just a thought if Grace poe isnt what we called a "double-double" that is even if she loses running for a higher positon and remain a senator,,, would she still be as a hard bargain as now?

    I'm beginning to think, trojan horse itong si poe and chiz...
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    hindi pwede si binay, hindi pwede si poe, hindi pwede si mar, hindi pwede si duterte, hindi pwede si lacson, hindi pwede si marcos sino ngayon ang pwedeng maging presidente?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    hindi pwede si binay, hindi pwede si poe, hindi pwede si mar, hindi pwede si duterte, hindi pwede si lacson, hindi pwede si marcos sino ngayon ang pwedeng maging presidente?
    the PBA's clown..... Maaaaaaannnnnnyyyyyy Paaaaaacyyyyyyooouuuuuu!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    hindi pwede si binay, hindi pwede si poe, hindi pwede si mar, hindi pwede si duterte, hindi pwede si lacson, hindi pwede si marcos sino ngayon ang pwedeng maging presidente?
    the PBA's clown..... Maaaaaaannnnnnyyyyyy Paaaaaacyyyyyyooouuuuuu!!!!

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    and his not resigning speaks volume of his character-- personal ambition over what is right, over integrity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    and his not resigning speaks volume of his character-- personal ambition over what is right, over integrity
    we can nitpick all day, I can also say the same thing with Poe, why not just announce her candidacy and run as independent? stop going to meetings with the President. should have rejected outright the offers and feelers of the admin, she did it on binay, rejected UNA's offer right there and then.

    is it also her personal ambition that's stopping her?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    and his not resigning speaks volume of his character-- personal ambition over what is right, over integrity
    we can nitpick all day, I can also say the same thing with Poe, why not just announce her candidacy and run as independent? stop going to meetings with the President. should have rejected outright the offers and feelers of the admin, she did it on binay, rejected UNA's offer right there and then.

    is it also her personal ambition that's stopping her?

    so if ever she run as Mar's VP, wala na rin integrity yan? correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    we can nitpick all day, I can also say the same thing with Poe, why not just announce her candidacy and run as independent? stop going to meetings with the President. should have rejected outright the offers and feelers of the admin, she did it on binay, rejected UNA's offer right there and then.

    is it also her personal ambition that's stopping her?

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    we can nitpick all day, I can also say the same thing with Poe, why not just announce her candidacy and run as independent? stop going to meetings with the President. should have rejected outright the offers and feelers of the admin, she did it on binay, rejected UNA's offer right there and then.

    is it also her personal ambition that's stopping her?

    so if ever she run as Mar's VP, wala na rin integrity yan? correct?
    you damn her if you want, i'm not getting your way, in the same manner i can damn the bayot roxas, ok?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    you damn her if you want, i'm not getting your way, in the same manner i can damn the bayot roxas, ok?
    approved! :rofl:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    you damn her if you want, i'm not getting your way, in the same manner i can damn the bayot roxas, ok?
    approved! :rofl:

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    approved! :rofl:
    that's good ☺

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    approved! :rofl:
    Wag kontrahin ang dyos. Peace out.

    Hahahahaha

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    Grace Poe will be another PNoy. A president who is not ready to be president. Then we can all damn her decisions. Based on friendship and family ties. We will get what we deserve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    What's wrong? At least we know they will be using their own money. Can't say the same thing with binay.
    Probably yes. But from whom are they planning to recover their dear oh so dear P7B bro????

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    People ‘reading too much’ on Poe-Escudero sortie; Roxas silent

    July 19, 2015 05:00am

    People are "reading too much" into the visit of Senators Grace Poe and Francis Escudero to South Cotabato on Saturday, according to Budget Secretary Florencio Abad.

    Interior Secretary Mar Roxas is silent about the first public appearance together of the two senators and that, according to a political analyst, is "ominous."

    "Some people are reading too much into a single sortie. There are more substantive bases upon which such important decision as endorsing the next President will be and should be based," Abad told the Inquirer in a text message.

    Poe and Escudero joined the T'nalak Festival in Koronadal City on the invitation of Nationalist People's Coalition (NPC)

    The outing fueled speculation that Poe has decided to run for President with Escudero as her Vice President despite accepting President Benigno Aquino III's invitations for them to meet to discuss the 2016 elections.

    The President has not articulated it, but many believe he called the meetings to convince Poe, the new front-runner in the polls in the presidential election, to slide down to Vice President and be the running mate of Roxas, the presumptive standard-bearer of the ruling Liberal Party (LP).

    "Chiz and Grace realize the power of their popularity and the public support so they are maximizing it. They are using these to put pressure on the President to anoint them. They realize that they control a lot of things and they control the terms of reference at this point," political analyst Prospero de Vera said in an interview on Saturday.

    Poe and Escudero were quoted as saying that while the endorsement of President Aquino would be "welcome," it would not be the main factor in their decision whether to run. They said the decision to run would still be a personal one for them.

    "If the primary consideration in this coming elections is the continuity of the transformation process that has benefited our people in the past five years, I believe that President Aquino has a critical role to play in helping the country transition to the next administration," Abad said.

    "But that assessment depends on the acknowledgment of the gains made in the past five years, the role of President Aquino in the process, and how these gains and President Aquino can help shape the 2016 elections," Abad added.

    What is most telling for De Vera is the silence of Roxas in the past few days, especially after the dinner hosted by the President for him, Poe, Escudero, and Abad on Wednesday.

    "The situation is becoming harder and harder for Mar because while all this is going on, Mar is extremely silent and that is ominous," De Vera said.

    He said Roxas was not imposing himself on the public, unlike how former House Speaker Jose de Venecia projected himself as a presidential candidate despite his low ratings in voter preference polls in 1998.

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    I am convinced Grace Poe will run with Chiz as VP. Goodluck na lang. Sabayan na silang lahat. [emoji120]🏻 I hope Binay will not win. But I will vote for MAR.

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    Then she's the ping Lacson of this election.

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