Rise of Grace Poe

[chua_riwap]

So malabo na. Di na pwede tumakbo si GP?
Matutuwa si nognog nyan, at si mar.
Sino na options natin kung di na pwede si GP?

[Juan Martinez]

So malabo na. Di na pwede tumakbo si GP?

pananaw lang natin yan. di man tayo yung presidential electoral tribunal or the supreme court. if i had my way, i'd urge her to run para ma settle yang issue na yan sa korte suprema. saka wala namang "winnable" next in line. but the problem is, kung manalo si GP only to be decided by the SC that she doesn't have domicile requirement. so kailangang magaling bise-presidente na mahalal. this is the time Mar should slide again 😃

[kimbon]

So malabo na. Di na pwede tumakbo si GP?
Matutuwa si nognog nyan, at si mar.
Sino na options natin kung di na pwede si GP?

wala... ayaw naman daw ni duterte. bahala na si batman. hehe

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So malabo na. Di na pwede tumakbo si GP?
Matutuwa si nognog nyan, at si mar.
Sino na options natin kung di na pwede si GP?

wala... ayaw naman daw ni duterte. bahala na si batman. hehe

[Balikpinoy]

I'm sue there are lawyers angling to question the exact intent and meaning of residency that challenges the opinion above.

[yebo]

pananaw lang natin yan. di man tayo yung presidential electoral tribunal or the supreme court. if i had my way, i'd urge her to run para ma settle yang issue na yan sa korte suprema. saka wala namang "winnable" next in line. but the problem is, kung manalo si GP only to be decided by the SC that she doesn't have domicile requirement. so kailangang magaling bise-presidente na mahalal. this is the time Mar should slide again 😃

Is it the VP who will assume the office if the pres is disqualified? Di ba madami ng ruling ng comelec na yung 2nd placer ang mag-take over ng vacated position and not the vice (mayor, governor) when the issue is disqualification.

[Juan Martinez]

^ yung rule on succession in the offices of the president saka VP nakasaad yan sa saligang batas under Article VII, Secs 7 and 8:

Section 7. The President-elect and the Vice President-elect shall assume office at the beginning of their terms.

If the President-elect fails to qualify, the Vice President-elect shall act as President until the President-elect shall have qualified.

If a President shall not have been chosen, the Vice President-elect shall act as President until a President shall have been chosen and qualified.

If at the beginning of the term of the President, the President-elect shall have died or shall have become permanently disabled, the Vice President-elect shall become President.

Where no President and Vice-President shall have been chosen or shall have qualified, or where both shall have died or become permanently disabled, the President of the Senate or, in case of his inability, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, shall act as President until a President or a Vice-President shall have been chosen and qualified.

The Congress shall, by law, provide for the manner in which one who is to act as President shall be selected until a President or a Vice-President shall have qualified, in case of death, permanent disability, or inability of the officials mentioned in the next preceding paragraph.

Section 8. In case of death, permanent disability, removal from office, or resignation of the President, the Vice-President shall become the President to serve the unexpired term. In case of death, permanent disability, removal from office, or resignation of both the President and Vice-President, the President of the Senate or, in case of his inability, the Speaker of the House of Representatives, shall then act as President until the President or Vice-President shall have been elected and qualified.

The Congress shall, by law, provide who shall serve as President in case of death, permanent disability, or resignation of the Acting President. He shall serve until the President or the Vice-President shall have been elected and qualified, and be subject to the same restrictions of powers and disqualifications as the Acting President.

[Juan Martinez]

ampon din pala si bise presidente--

VP Binay: Like Grace Poe, I was adopted
Imquirer.net June 05, 2015 09:56am

"I was also adopted," said VicePresident Jejomar Binay as he washed off his hands on the foundling issue raised by his ownallyagainst Senator GracePoe.

In fact, Binay saidPoe was fortunate to have a better life withher adoptive parents---Susan Roces and the later Fernando Poe Jr.--- compared to his own experience.

"Alam mo na, may bahagi ata ng pananalita ni Mareng Grace tungkol sa pagkakaampon n'ya. Ako, si Jojo Binay, kukutsain ko 'yong mga ganyan? Hindi si Jojo Binay 'yan,"the Vice President said in an interview in Biliran Thursday, a copy ofthe transcript was furnished to reporters by his office this Friday.

(Grace made a statement about being adopted. Would I, Jojo Binay, mock that? No, that's not me.)

"E kasi ako, inampon din lang ako ng tiyo ko. Mabuti pa nga si Mareng Grace, gumanda ang buhay n'ya [sa pagkakaampon n'ya]. 'Yong pagkakaampon sa'kin e ako ang namamalengke, kumukuha ng kaning baboy. [Kaya] hindi si Jojo Binay ang nangdudusta sa mga nang-aapi," he said.

(I was also adopted by my uncle. Grace had it better when she got adopted. Unlike me, I was the one going to the market or collecting hog swill. So I am not the one to degrade those who are oppressed.)

Asked if he would raise the issueagainst Poe should she decide to run for president in 2016,Binay said: "Nandiyan na po 'yan e. Tingnan na lang [paano mangyayari]."

(The issue's been already raised. We'll just see.)

It was lawyerJV Bautista, interim secretary-general of Binay's United NationalistAlliance(UNA),who raised the questionson Poe's citizenship, saying a foundling's citizenship is hard to determine.

"A foundling by definition is stateless," Bautista was reportedly quoted as saying.

READ:A 'foundling': UNA claims new dope on Poe

Before this,UNA's interimpresident and Navotas RepresentativeToby Tiangco said Poe was not qualified to runfor a higher post in 2016 because she did not meet the 10-yearresidency requirement of the law.

But Poe, who has yet to decide whether or not to runfor a higher post next year, immediately denied Tiangco's allegation, saying she has been residing in the Philippines since 2005 or for 10 years by now. IDL

[chua_riwap]

True.
Ampon lang yan si binay, taga bangkal (kuli-kuli) makati yan noon.

[Juan Martinez]

For causing Poe-Binay rift, Toby Tiangco is sorry

Inquirer.net June 06, 2015 05:06am

United Nationalist Alliance (UNA) interim president Toby Tiangco on Friday expressed remorse for raising the residency issue against Sen. Grace Poe and triggering a word war between her and the camp of Vice President Jejomar Binay.
"I apologize for having caused damage to the friendship of the Poe and Binay families," the Navotas representative said in a text message to media.
Tiangco, who stirred up a hornet's nest after questioning Poe's qualifications to run for higher office, said he would no longer talk about the issue to preserve the peace between the two camps.
Binay and Poe have emerged as the leading presidential contenders in 2016, although only the former has indicated his decision to run for the position.
"I will follow [the advice of the Vice President's daughter, Makati Rep. Abigail Binay,] to stop speaking on the matter as this is an issue for the proper courts to decide," said Tiangco, who insisted his earlier comments were his own and did not have the blessing of the Vice President.

Residency controversy

On Tuesday, Tiangco said Poe would not satisfy the 10-year residency rule for presidential and vice presidential candidates if she were to be elected next year, based on the certificate of candidacy (COC) she filed when she first ran for senator in 2013.
Poe then wrote in her COC that she had been a Philippine resident for six years and six months, which would mean, per Tiangco's calculation, that her period of residency would have reached only nine years and six months in May 2016, six months short of the requirement.
But Poe said she had only erred on the side of prudence, as she counted only from the time she sold her house in the United States in 2006. In fact, she said, she could prove she had been residing in the Philippines as early as June 2005, which would fulfill the constitutional requirement.
Saying the issue was almost pushing her to run, Poe directed barbed words at Binay for allowing Tiangco to raise the issue, adding that she found it hard to believe the Vice President had no hand in it.
Lawyers and lawmakers from different political persuasions gave varying opinions on Poe's qualification to run for President.

Personal attacks

The ensuing public discussion also turned personal, as it soon involved Binay's past association with Poe's adoptive father, Fernando Poe Jr., as well as the senator's dual citizenship and background as a foundling, which could complicate her possible candidacy. The Constitution states that only "natural-born" Filipinos may rise to the presidency.
The heated back-and-forth between the Poe and Binay camps prompted Representative Binay to try to defuse tensions.
"This will accomplish nothing except to inflame the supposed conflict between my father and Senator Poe," she told a news conference at her Makati residence.
Reading a prepared statement, the younger Binay said she wished to put a stop to the "heated and emotional" words between Binay's allies and Poe over the questions raised by Tiangco.
"If Senator Poe so decides to run for President in 2016, my father warmly accepts and respects her decision. It is her right to run for any position," Representative Binay said in Filipino. "This should not be cause for quarrel or conflict."
She also suggested that the qualification issue be brought to the courts.

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For causing Poe-Binay rift, Toby Tiangco is sorry

Inquirer.net June 06, 2015 05:06am

United Nationalist Alliance (UNA) interim president Toby Tiangco on Friday expressed remorse for raising the residency issue against Sen. Grace Poe and triggering a word war between her and the camp of Vice President Jejomar Binay.
"I apologize for having caused damage to the friendship of the Poe and Binay families," the Navotas representative said in a text message to media.
Tiangco, who stirred up a hornet's nest after questioning Poe's qualifications to run for higher office, said he would no longer talk about the issue to preserve the peace between the two camps.
Binay and Poe have emerged as the leading presidential contenders in 2016, although only the former has indicated his decision to run for the position.
"I will follow [the advice of the Vice President's daughter, Makati Rep. Abigail Binay,] to stop speaking on the matter as this is an issue for the proper courts to decide," said Tiangco, who insisted his earlier comments were his own and did not have the blessing of the Vice President.

Residency controversy

On Tuesday, Tiangco said Poe would not satisfy the 10-year residency rule for presidential and vice presidential candidates if she were to be elected next year, based on the certificate of candidacy (COC) she filed when she first ran for senator in 2013.
Poe then wrote in her COC that she had been a Philippine resident for six years and six months, which would mean, per Tiangco's calculation, that her period of residency would have reached only nine years and six months in May 2016, six months short of the requirement.
But Poe said she had only erred on the side of prudence, as she counted only from the time she sold her house in the United States in 2006. In fact, she said, she could prove she had been residing in the Philippines as early as June 2005, which would fulfill the constitutional requirement.
Saying the issue was almost pushing her to run, Poe directed barbed words at Binay for allowing Tiangco to raise the issue, adding that she found it hard to believe the Vice President had no hand in it.
Lawyers and lawmakers from different political persuasions gave varying opinions on Poe's qualification to run for President.

Personal attacks

The ensuing public discussion also turned personal, as it soon involved Binay's past association with Poe's adoptive father, Fernando Poe Jr., as well as the senator's dual citizenship and background as a foundling, which could complicate her possible candidacy. The Constitution states that only "natural-born" Filipinos may rise to the presidency.
The heated back-and-forth between the Poe and Binay camps prompted Representative Binay to try to defuse tensions.
"This will accomplish nothing except to inflame the supposed conflict between my father and Senator Poe," she told a news conference at her Makati residence.
Reading a prepared statement, the younger Binay said she wished to put a stop to the "heated and emotional" words between Binay's allies and Poe over the questions raised by Tiangco.
"If Senator Poe so decides to run for President in 2016, my father warmly accepts and respects her decision. It is her right to run for any position," Representative Binay said in Filipino. "This should not be cause for quarrel or conflict."
She also suggested that the qualification issue be brought to the courts.

Damage Done. Mission Accomplished. Panggap na lang sorry. It's all part of the script. Tanga naman daw mga Pinoy.

That's how the Trapos play.

[dreamur]

Apology through text? That is the lowest form of sincerity.

[CVT]

Damage Done. Mission Accomplished. Panggap na lang sorry. It's all part of the script. Tanga naman daw mga Pinoy.

That's how the Trapos play.

Agree. Ulvl niya....

Makakita sana siya ng katapat....

[Juan Martinez]

ito na. lumabas na yung Facebook post ni panyero Raymond sa pahayagan. yung ine-screen shot yata ni CNS and posted here. mukhang mag increase na naman yung flag down rate ni panyero nito---


Lawyer: 10-year residency rule for presidential bets mandatory
Inquirer.net June 07, 2015 10:29pm

THE 10-year residency rule for candidates aspiring for the highest office in the land is mandatory.

Atty. Raymond Fortun, in a public post in his Facebook account, said there is a reason why the people who crafted the 1987 Philippine Constitution came up with such a requirement.

"There is a reason why the Constitution requires a 10-year residency for a presidential candidate --- at the least, it is to guarantee that a candidate knows what ills this country, and has a love for it enough to desire to be a catalyst for change," Fortun said.

"If you really placed '6 years, 6 months' as of May 13, 2013, please show a love for your chosen (?) country by conceding that point and follow and obey this country's laws. Otherwise, we cannot expect that you would follow those same laws if you become president," he added.

Poe was a foundling, an abandoned child in a church in Jaro, Iloilo before she was legally adopted by movie stars Fernando Poe Jr and Susan Roces.

She moved to the United States to finish her studies and work.

She only decided to return to the Philippines after her father died following the 2004 national elections. She later renounced her US citizenship so she could be appointed in the Philippine government, as chair of the Movie and Television Review and Classification Board in 2010.

Last week, Navotas Rep. and United Nationalist Alliance (UNA) interim president Toby Tiangco questioned Poe's qualification to run for President for failure to meet the residency requirement mentioned in Article VII, Section 2. The residency requirement for candidates running for president or vice president is 10 years, while that for senator is two years.

"You DID state UNDER OATH that your residency in the Philippines as of May 13, 2013 was 6years, 6 months. I as a lawyer will hold you to that oath. You KNEW or OUGHT TO HAVE KNOWN the implications of that declaration. That you are now trying to wiggle your way out of that declaration under oath somehow tarnishes you in my eyes because THE LEAST that I expect from you is HONESTY," added Fortun. (NOTE: emphasis included in his post).

Binay's daughter Makati Rep. Mari-len Abigail Binay on Friday appealed for an end to the word war between Poe and officials of the opposition UNA, and said the residency issue should instead be settled in court.

Fortun echoed Rep. Binay's sentiment: "This case will definitely be decided by the courts. That is why this [Facebook] post is BOTH an appeal to reason and to emotion."

[CVT]

ito na. lumabas na yung Facebook post ni panyero Raymond sa pahayagan. yung ine-screen shot yata ni CNS and posted here. mukhang mag increase na naman yung flag down rate ni panyero nito---


Lawyer: 10-year residency rule for presidential bets mandatory
Inquirer.net June 07, 2015 10:29pm

THE 10-year residency rule for candidates aspiring for the highest office in the land is mandatory.

Atty. Raymond Fortun, in a public post in his Facebook account, said there is a reason why the people who crafted the 1987 Philippine Constitution came up with such a requirement.

"There is a reason why the Constitution requires a 10-year residency for a presidential candidate --- at the least, it is to guarantee that a candidate knows what ills this country, and has a love for it enough to desire to be a catalyst for change," Fortun said.

"If you really placed '6 years, 6 months' as of May 13, 2013, please show a love for your chosen (?) country by conceding that point and follow and obey this country's laws. Otherwise, we cannot expect that you would follow those same laws if you become president," he added.

Poe was a foundling, an abandoned child in a church in Jaro, Iloilo before she was legally adopted by movie stars Fernando Poe Jr and Susan Roces.

She moved to the United States to finish her studies and work.

She only decided to return to the Philippines after her father died following the 2004 national elections. She later renounced her US citizenship so she could be appointed in the Philippine government, as chair of the Movie and Television Review and Classification Board in 2010.

Last week, Navotas Rep. and United Nationalist Alliance (UNA) interim president Toby Tiangco questioned Poe's qualification to run for President for failure to meet the residency requirement mentioned in Article VII, Section 2. The residency requirement for candidates running for president or vice president is 10 years, while that for senator is two years.

"You DID state UNDER OATH that your residency in the Philippines as of May 13, 2013 was 6years, 6 months. I as a lawyer will hold you to that oath. You KNEW or OUGHT TO HAVE KNOWN the implications of that declaration. That you are now trying to wiggle your way out of that declaration under oath somehow tarnishes you in my eyes because THE LEAST that I expect from you is HONESTY," added Fortun. (NOTE: emphasis included in his post).

Binay's daughter Makati Rep. Mari-len Abigail Binay on Friday appealed for an end to the word war between Poe and officials of the opposition UNA, and said the residency issue should instead be settled in court.

Fortun echoed Rep. Binay's sentiment: "This case will definitely be decided by the courts. That is why this [Facebook] post is BOTH an appeal to reason and to emotion."

An outsider with a valuable inside observation..... The "wisdom and the spirit" of the provision in our constitution....

I used to tell my operations guys,- "If I want to understand what's ailing our operations,- I'd spend time talking with the other departments,- then I will know those issues (at ***yari*** kayo sa akin!)".... Keeps everyone on their toes.....

This is something I still do regularly. And I with that, - I know the rate and intensity of the heartbeat of our people....



"The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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Lawyer: 10-year residency rule for presidential bets mandatory
Inquirer.net June 07, 2015 10:29pm

"You DID state UNDER OATH that your residency in the Philippines as of May 13, 2013 was 6years, 6 months.

Attorney Raymond Fortune,

Mahilig ka rin lang naman sa pagiging technical, letter of the "law" abider, eh better tingnan mo ulit mabuti kung anong nakasulat sa COC mismo na siyang sinagot ni Ms. Poe as sworn statement niya.

Ang exact wording ng tanong sa COC eh:

"Period of Residence in the Philippines BEFORE May 13, 2013"

That's a hell of lot of difference from:

"Period of Residence AS OF May 13 2013"

Aminin mo man o hindi, vague talaga yung question na yan sa COC, and a lot of people can honestly and without malice interpret the "BEFORE MAY 13 2013" to mean residence AS OF date of filing of COC.

Sige, iwagayway mo lang sa ignoranteng fans mo ang ganyang argumento. Gawin mo silang tanga. We know better. And we know you're always on the wrong side of the law.

[Juan Martinez]

^I agree. it's the spirit of the provision that giveth life, not the letters that killeth, should be given effect. that is the most ideal thing. but many have mistaken the trees for the forest.

[dreamur]

In accounting parlance bro we call it substance over form.

[Juan Martinez]

Groups want Poe-Francis tandem, bares Grace http://feeds.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/...em-bares-grace

[chua_riwap]

Poe-Francis.

Sounds like Santo papa tandem?

[BratPAQ]

Poe-Francis.

Sounds like Santo papa tandem?

Buti na lang chiz at hindi Kiko nickname ni Escudero.