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    sabi ng driver namin hindi na daw ma -access ang ibang pages sa fb?

    i can't verify this because i don't have a fb account
    Last edited by baludoy; June 2nd, 2017 at 10:02 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baludoy View Post
    sabi ng driver namin hindi na daw ma -access ang ibang pages sa fb?

    i can't verify this because i don't have a fb account
    I can access mine

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    A client of ours invited us to the paw patrol show at resorts world. She forgot that our tickets were dated yesterday....
    Buti na lang hindi kami natuloy... since medyo busy, baka misis ko at mga bata na lang ang napapunta ko....

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    Di na pala carnage ang 38 dead bodies ngayon.

    Perhaps the Truck rampage method employed by ISIS lone wolf attacks in Europe is not an act of a terrorism. Basically because the dead bodies were not shot or nobody were blown away.

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    Nalimutan mo isali yung "on the spot"

    Yung example mo truck rampage = binangga agad (on the spot)

    Eh yung sa resorts world pinapaalis mga tao.

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    Ayun pala pinalais pala ang mga tao so kasalanan na nila yun kung namatay sila no?

    By the way di on the spot ang Truck rampage. Mag nanakaw muna ng truck ang mga yan then drive it to a populated area the the rampage starts.

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    In case we missed out on terrorism class.


    RAPPLER IQ

    Officials contradict each other on Resorts World Manila attack

    Was it a terror attack or not? Did the gunman kill himself, or did police shoot him to death? Questions hound the deadly attack at a Manila casino.

    Paterno Esmaquel II

    *paterno_ii

    Published 9:10 AM, June 03, 2017

    Updated 9:10 AM, June 03, 2017

    POLICE CHIEF. PNP chief Director General Ronald dela Rosa arrives at Resorts World Manila after a lone gunman opened fire and burned part of the posh casino on June 2, 2017. Photo by Alecs Ongcal/Rappler

    MANILA, Philippines – Official sources contradicted each other Friday, June 2, after a gunman opened fire and burned part of the posh Resorts World Manila casino, leaving at least 37 dead and 54 injured.

    The gunman – described by the Philippine police chief as a "foreign-looking" 6-footer with a moustache – reportedly killed himself after the shooting incident, fueling speculations about his motives. (READ: TIMELINE: Resorts World Manila attack)

    Contradicting statements came from officials of both the Philippine government and Resorts World Manila on Friday. Information released so far also indicate a number of loopholes.

    1. Terror attack or not?

    First, Philippine National Police (PNP) chief Director General Ronald dela Rosa downplayed a report that linked the terrorist group Islamic State (ISIS) to the Resorts World Manila attack.

    It was the terrorism monitoring group SITE that first said an ISIS "Filipino operative" was behind the incident. Eventually, ISIS claimed that its "fighters" carried out the attack. But Dela Rosa claimed it was the handiwork of one man, a "lone wolf".

    The PNP chief said of the gunman's act: "We're looking at robbery as an angle because he stole, he barged into the storage room for casino chips. He took the chips, put them inside his backpack but eventually left it. We have recovered the backpack."

    National Capital Region Police Office (NCRPO) chief Director Oscar Albayalde later echoed Dela Rosa's statement.

    Albayalde said the gunman had tried to steal P113 million ($2.3 million) worth of gambling chips, although he left the backpack on the ground near the stock room.

    Referring to the gunman's act, Albayalde said, "We cannot relate it to terrorism because he did not shoot anybody."

    Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana, however, said on Friday: "We are not yet ruling out that this is an ISIS act. It is so easy for ISIS to claim responsibility. Whether true or ISIS is just riding onto a done act, we still do not know." (READ: Terrorism and ISIS at Resorts World Attack?)

    2. Definition of terror

    The other loophole in Albayalde's statement is the way he ruled out terrorism because the gunman "did not shoot anybody."

    "Kung ISIS siya, namaril na siya doon (If he was from ISIS, he would have shot the people there)," Dela Rosa also said, explaining that a terrorist would have carried out a suicide bombing to inflict maximum casualties.

    An act of terror, however, is not defined by the use of gunfire or by a huge number of deaths.

    In a lecture uploaded by the International Crisis Group, terror analyst Sidney Jones said in 2013 that "there is no single definition of terrorism. But she said "there is wide consensus that it is a tactic, not an end in itself, involving a deliberate effort to create a sense of fear in a particular target population to achieve a political objective."
    Whether it is or it isn't is up to PNP. Which by the way puro mali ang report nila kahapon.

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    Lest we forget, it is still martial law in marawi, soldiers were killed in a friendly fire and EJKs are still unresolved. Keep wagging.

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    i would have prefered a "no comments yet. it is still under investigation."
    it could save a lot of feet from mouths.

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    Even Speaker Alvarez doesn't believe PNP version

    Bakit kaya tahimik lang si Gunggong, este Digong

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    I dont think this is an ISIS tied terrorist attacked.
    Its a botched robbery, burn casino tables to cause stampede and confusion to cover his escape.

    The guman went to the chips first. To cart away 113M, this guy is very familiar with chip denominations.
    He has a semi and yet he shoots into the air instead of shooting directly towards the hotel guest and employees. This alone showed it is not his motive to directly harm the people in the casino.
    Compare to the truck driver in London who drove his truck with intent to kill, and uses a knife later.

    Although by definition, his action is a form of terrorism, but this is not the same type of terrorisim that can be tied to ISIS.

    As for Alvarez statement..........
    We all know a terrorist angle will favor his master desire to put the entire Philippines umder Martial Law.
    Last edited by glenn_duke; June 3rd, 2017 at 01:13 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    As for Alvarez statement..........
    We all know a terrorist angle will favor his master desire to put the entire Philippines umder Martial Law.
    +1. They will take advantage of every "bad" incident to justify putting the whole country under ML...... yan ang nakakatakot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zoomzoom View Post
    +1. They will take advantage of every "bad" incident to justify putting the whole country under ML...... yan ang nakakatakot.
    Weren't the quiapo bombings "bad" enough?

    Wasn't this RWM incident "bad" enough?

    If they wanted to declare martial law what the hell are they waiting for?

    A "badder" incident?

    What if a "bladder" incident doesn't happen?

    They create one?

    Of course they'll create one

    Every conspiracy theorist out there will say that

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    So according to the paranoid crowd we're just waiting for a "badder" incident

    In that case lulubusin ko na ang labas labas ko sa gabi

    Coz according to the paranoids dadating at dadating ang martial law sa Luzon

    Curfew 10pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    Weren't the quiapo bombings "bad" enough?

    Wasn't this RWM incident "bad" enough?
    Eh may kumontra eh..... Quiapo incident = revenge..... RWM = botched robbery......laging may kumokontra na mula pa sa kampo nila.....


    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    If they wanted to declare martial law what the hell are they waiting for?

    A "badder" incident?

    What if a "bladder" incident doesn't happen?

    They create one?

    Of course they'll create one

    Every conspiracy theorist out there will say that
    The don't actually have to create one....they'll just wait na walang kumontra...... get their act together and "sing the same tune".... from the PNP to the AFP...... once they do that, then its the perfect storm..... importante lahat sila sa gobyerno agree..... to hell with the opposition/minority..... to hell with what the civilian say.... basta lahat sila sa loob ng gobyerno maniniwala na justified ang ML dahil sa isang insidente na yun.

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    Kapani-paniwala naman ah??



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    mahirap ba bumili ng kerosene?

    kahit sino may dalang container pwede bumili ng kerosene sa gas station

    sino aawat sa kanya habang nagbubuhos siya ng kerosene?!

    may dala nga baril at nagpaputok na

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post


    mahirap ba bumili ng kerosene?

    kahit sino may dalang container pwede bumili ng kerosene sa gas station

    sino aawat sa kanya habang nagbubuhos siya ng kerosene?!

    may dala nga baril at nagpaputok na
    Hindi mahirap bumili ng kerosene, pero dapat mahirap magpasok ng kerosene (at armalite) sa loob ng casino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Hindi mahirap bumili ng kerosene, pero dapat mahirap magpasok ng kerosene (at armalite) sa loob ng casino.

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    kasi he sounded like where the guy got the kerosene is mysterious

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    those guards aren't prepared for anyone walking into the casino with a rifle

    it's not like Malacanang level ang security ng RW

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