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    The Doctor of Helen Gamboa and Tito Sotto is PRO-RH.

    The family of Dra. Carmen Enverga-Santos—whom Sen. Tito Sotto identified as his wife Helen Gamboa's obstetrician in his anti-RH Bill speech—posts statement saying the late doctor would have backed RH Bill
    "As one of Dra. Carmen Enverga-Santos’ children, [I must say] we were all surprised to hear her name brought up by Sen. Sotto during the deliberations on the RH Bill.

    Anyone who knew her, including her family, colleagues in the medical field, her medical students, friends, confessor as well as her patients, knows that she would have supported the RH bill and would have openly expressed her support for the bill because of her concern for our country’s problems with overpopulation and its subsequent impact on poverty, quality of life issues, and the health of all mothers."


    The family of Dra. Carmen Enverga-Santos—whom Sen. Tito Sotto identified as his wife Helen Gamboa's obstetrician in his anti-RH Bill speech—posts statement saying the late doctor would have backed RH Bill*|* The Feed*|* SPOT.ph

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    #802
    Those supporting the RH Bill should really get more info on the negative effects of the provisions of the RH Bill.

    Pasted below is a copied repartee in another forum on the subject? (Will copy and paste the attachment in the next post)


    ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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    Date: Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 4:35 AM
    Subject: The Sophistry of Senator Miriam Defensor Santiago - Re: Terrorism, Religion, and Supersition
    To:
    Cc:



    Really disheartening to read such crap sophistry especially from an "honorable" person who left the basics out of her argument – The fifth commandment states:



    THOU SHALL NOT KILL!




    The RH Bill is all about Population Control as part of the UNHR Population Agenda under the auspices of the proponents promoting the recommendations of NSSM 200.


    The mechanics of NSSM 200, which recommends political control through economic control, involves lessening of the human resources of countries.



    With the lack of human resources target countries cannot utilize their resources and progress economically thus become weak.



    The promotion of the use of contraceptives as the tool for population control makes the RH Bill immoral. This does not only kill the unborn human life but also harms even fatally the user of such contraceptives.



    Not only do contraceptives kill the unborn human life and harm the user but also the whole of society as the contraceptive culture is introduced into the cultures of target societies.



    Attached are articles and studies that prove that such recommendation as stated in the NSSM 200 works and that contraceptives kills. The articles and studies in the attachments also shows the severe negative effects of on countries that embraced the UNHR Population Control Agenda of which the RH Bill promotes.






    On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Nathaniel wrote:

    REASON 6

    > "15 Filipino mothers die from pregnancy and childbirth complications."

    Then the Reproductive Health Bill must promote the Health of Women to ensure that they shall be able to have a safe
    delivery.

    Using artificial contraceptives does not lower the risk of those becoming pregnant if health support infrastructure
    is not in place to help those who are expecting a child.

    Even animals have their mortality rate and you solve the root of the problem and not give them condoms or artificial
    contraceptives. The more people on earth the more we can create infrastructure and even explore what is in the
    Universe.

    God is Love and also God is Justice and Order.

    When a couple uses artificial contraceptive and it fails that is then an "Unwanted Pregnancy", which results to an
    "Unwanted Child", which then results to the need for "legal abortion".

    It is those who promote contraception that shall distort what Love is and replace it with Self-gratification, a false sense of love
    out of convenience and not Love a result of Commitment and Sacrifice.

    >"Filipino Catholics should now insist that priests and bishops in our country are no longer a special caste in Philippine society. The Catholic Church does not consist of the priests and bishops alone. Instead, the Church consists of the whole faith community.

    >I very humbly submit that since the priest is no longer a special person in Catholic theology, many Filipino priests are suffering from a sense of confusion about RH."

    The author have already lost the sense of being Catholic to even speak of the place of Bishops and Priests in the Catholic Church and theology.


    REASON 7

    Morality is Universal and not anti-poor.

    We have problems in our society, in our government, in whatever position we are in because people do not follow morality.
    Moreover, it is also our moral duty to protect the poor, help them by providing education, work, and opportunities. People
    have replaced this morality to a currency called ----> Money. Most people are inspired to serve only when money is on the table.

    REASON 8

    The delay of RH Bill proves to be good in Filipinos. We increase and fill the dwindling human resource in Dubai, Canada, Japan,
    and other places.

    Meanwhile the young generations are hooked with reality shows but failed to take care of their real life. Throw the TV and be productive.
    Your success is also a bridge for other people to be successful.



    WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND WE INCREASE IN KNOWLEDGE TO BRING US TO THE NEXT FRONTIER.
    TODAY, THE ENEMIES DON'T SEND BOMBS TO WIPE OUT A NATION ... THEY JUST LET THEM HOOK INTO CONTRACEPTIVES.







    List of Studies, Articles and Books Showing the Dangers of the RH Bill 2012. Updated August 5, 2012 with 54 new links.(2).pdf List of Studies, Articles and Books Showing the Dangers of the RH Bill 2012. Updated August 5, 2012 with 54 new links.(2).pdf
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    PART V: ARTICLES, STUDIES, AUDIO/VIDEOS: BIRTH CONTROL, DANGEROUS SIDE-EFFECTS


    1. VENOUS THROMBOSIS IN USERS OF NON-ORAL HORMONAL CONTRACEPTION

    British Medical Journal (BMJ), published 10 May 2012.

    "Conclusion: Women who use transdermal patches or vaginal rings for
    contraception have a 7.9 and 6.5 times increased risk of confirmed
    venous thrombosis compared with non-users of hormonal contraception
    of the same age, corresponding to 9.7 and 7.8 events per 10 000
    exposure years. The risk was slightly increased in women using
    subcutaneous implants but not in those using the levonorgestrel
    intrauterine system."

    http://www.bmj.com/highwire/filestre...icle_pdf/0.pdf


    2. PANELISTS WARN OF BIRTH CONTROL'S THREATS TO HEALTH, MINORITIES

    By Michelle Bauman, June 5, 2012

    Panelists warn of birth control's threats to health, minorities :: Catholic News Agency (CNA)


    3. DR. LANFRANCHI: SHOCKING FACTS ABOUT HOW THE PILL KILLS IGNORED

    June 7, 2012

    STOPP - Stop Planned Parenthood - Dr. Lanfranchi: Shocking facts about how the pill kills ignored


    4. DR. LANFRANCHI: THE PERILOUS PILL

    June 7, 2012

    STOPP - Stop Planned Parenthood - Dr. Lanfranchi: The perilous pill


    5. EFFECT OF DEPO-MEDROXYPROGESTERONE ACETATE ON BREAST CANCER RISK AMONG WOMEN 20-44 YEARS OF AGE

    Cancer Research, Feb. 15, 2012

    "We found that recent DMPA use for 12 months or longer was associated with a 2.2-fold (95% CI: 1.2-4.2) increased risk of invasive breast cancer."
    Effect of depo-medroxyprogesterone acetate on breast cancer risk among women 20-44 years of age


    6. STUDY: DEPO PROVERA USE INCREASES BREAST CANCER RISK

    By Steven Ertelt, June 11, 2012

    Study: Depo Provera Use Increases Breast Cancer Risk | LifeNews.com


    7. YAZ BIRTH CONTROL INVESTIGATION

    ABC News Nightline, October 14, 2011

    Nightline: Yaz Birth Control Investigation - YouTube



    8. RISK OF VENOUS THROMBOEMBOLISM FROM USE OF ORAL CONTRACEPTIVES CONTAINING DIFFERENT PROGESTOGENS AND OESTROGEN DOSES

    British Medical Journal (BMJ), November, 2011

    http://www.bmj.com/highwire/filestre...icle_pdf/0.pdf


    9. FDA ANNOUNCES REVIEW OF BIRTH CONTROL PILLS OVER SERIOUS BLOOD CLOT RISKS

    June 1, 2011

    LifeSiteNews Mobile | FDA announces review of birth control pills over serious blood clot risks


    10. SWISS WOMAN'S DEATH LINKED TO HORMONAL CONTRACEPTIVE

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...9/oct/09101605


    11. STUDY FINDS DEPO-PROVERA LEADS TO OBESITY

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...9/aug/09081206


    12. RISK OF VENOUS THROMBOEMBOLISM IN USERS OF ORAL CONTRACEPTIVES CONTAINING DROSPIRENONE OR LEVONORGESTREL

    British Medical Journal, 21 April 2011

    http://www.bmj.com/content/342/bmj.d2139.full.pdf


    13. NEW FDA REPORT: ABORTION DRUG KILLS 14 WOMEN, INJURES 2,200

    by Steven Ertelt, July 12, 2011

    New FDA Report: Abortion Drug Kills 14 Women, Injures 2,200 | LifeNews.com


    14. DR. ANGELA LANFRANCHI: THE PILL AND BREAST CANCER

    December 3, 2010. Audio, 60 minutes.

    Dr. Angela Lanfranchi: The Pill and Breast Cancer « HLI America

    Note: click on arrow beside speaker icon to start audio.


    15. THE PILL AND BREAST CANCER by JOHN WILKS, MPS, MACPP:

    lifeissues | The Pill And Breast Cancer: Your questions answered.


    16. BREAST CANCER RISK FROM THE PILL by CHRIS KAHLENBORN, MD:

    lifeissues.net | Breast Cancer Risk from The Pill

    17. BREAST CANCER, ABORTION AND THE PILL by CHRIS KAHLENBORN, MD:

    Breast Cancer, Abortion, and the Pill « One More Soul


    18. NEW STUDY PINPOINTS ORAL CONTRACEPTIVE-BREAST CANCER LINK by JOEL BRIND, PH.D.:

    http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/...9_analysis.PDF


    19. ORAL CONTRACEPTIVE USE AS A RISK FACTOR FOR PREMENOPAUSAL BREAST CANCER by KAHLENBORN, MD., MODUGNO, PH.D., POTTER, PH.D., SEVERS, PH.D.:

    Elsevier


    20. BREAST CANCER AND EARLY ORAL CONTRACEPTIVE USE by CHRIS KAHLENBORN, MD:

    lifeissues.net | Breast Cancer and Early Oral Contraceptive Use


    21. THE PILL: "THE LARGEST UNREGULATED HUMAN TRIAL THAT'S EVER BEEN CONDUCTED":

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...6/mar/06030705


    22. SURGEON: BIRTH CONTROL PILL A 'MOLOTOV COCKTAIL' FOR BREAST CANCER:

    LifeSiteNews Mobile | Surgeon: birth control pill a ‘molotov cocktail’ for breast cancer


    23. THE REASONS HORMONAL CONTRACEPTIVES AND INDUCED ABORTION INCREASE BREAST-CANCER RISK by DR. ANGELA LANFRANCHI:

    http://www.abortionbreastcancer.com/...Lanfranchi.pdf


    24. BIRTH CONTROL PILL LINKED TO HARDENING OF THE ARTERIES:

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...8/apr/08040807


    25. CANADIAN MP SAYS CANCER SOCIETY WITHHOLDING PILL/CANCER/LINK:

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...6/mar/06031707


    26. CONTRACEPTIVE PILL LINKED TO CERVICAL CANCER:

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...3/apr/03040405


    27. BIRTH CONTROL PILL MAY CAUSE PROSTATE CANCER AND BLADDER DISEASE IN MOTHERS' CHILDREN:

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...5/may/05050411


    28. ORAL CONTRACEPTION LINKED TO PROSTATE DEFORMITIES (IN MOTHERS' CHILDREN):

    Oral contraception linked to prostate deformities - health - 03 May 2005 - New Scientist


    29. NEW STUDY SHOWS CONTRACEPTIVE PILL INCREASES RISK OF HEART DISEASE, STROKE:

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...8/may/08050713


    30. SIDE EFFECTS OF THE PILL:

    The Pill Kills - 2012 - Side Effects


    31. THE PILL IS DEADLY TO BABIES AND WOMEN:

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...9/jan/99011203


    32. EFFECTS OF THE PILL ON WOMEN 1:

    The Pill Kills - 2012 - How the Pill Kills Women - Page 2


    33. EFFECTS OF THE PILL ON WOMEN 2:

    The Pill Kills - 2012 - Home - Page 3


    34. DR. LYNN KERR DISCUSSES THE BIRTH CONTROL PILL AND THE DAMAGING EFFECTS:

    Dr. Lynn Kerr discusses the birth control pill and the damaging effects - YouTube


    35. DANGEROUS EFFECTS OF THE PILL:

    Dangerous Effects of the Pill - YouTube


    36. STUDY: NEWER CONTRACEPTIVES MORE RISKY

    UPI, April 22, 2011

    Study: Newer contraceptives more risky - UPI.com


    37. JULY 2010 STUDY ON ORAL CONTRACEPTIVE USE AND BREAST CANCER:

    ORAL CONTRACEPTIVE USE AND ESTROGEN/PROGESTERONE RECEPTOR-NEGATIVE BREAST CANCER AMONG AFRICAN AMERICAN WOMEN
    http://hliamerica.org/files/2010/09/...BrCaBlacks.pdf


    38. STUDY FINDS HALF OF WOMEN ON "BIRTH CONTROL SHOT" SUFFER BONE PROBLEMS

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...9/dec/09122105


    39. DANGEROUS SIDE EFFECTS OF THE PILL: THE PILL AND LUPUS

    Contraceptive Watch: The Pill | Population Research Institute


    Full article cited:

    COMBINED ORAL CONTRACEPTIVE USE AND THE RISK OF SYSTEMIC LUPUS ERYTHEMATOSUS

    M. Bernier, MD, Y. Mikaleoff, MD, M. Hudson, MD, and S. Suissa, Ph.D.

    Combined oral contraceptive use and the risk of systemic lupus erythematosus - Bernier - 2009 - Arthritis Care & Research - Wiley Online Library


    40. UK TEENAGER DIES FROM COMPLICATIONS RELATED TO ORAL CONTRACEPTIVE

    May 10, 2011

    LifeSiteNews Mobile | UK teenager dies from complications related to oral contraceptive

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    Due to size, the attachments presented here have been cut to just aeound 25% of the number of articlesm books and videos of the list that shows the negative effects of the provisions of the RH Bill on the unborn Filipinos, contraceptive users and Philipine Society in general:

    THE BIRTH CONTROL PILL KILLS BABIES: YOUTUBE VIDEOS ON ABORTIFACIENTS:

    4. STOPP PLANNED PARENTHOOD DIRECTOR SAYS THE BIRTH CONTROL PILL KILLS:

    Stopp Planned Parenthood Director Says the Birth Control Pill Kills - YouTube


    5. THE PILL KILLS BABIES:

    The Pill Kills Babies - YouTube

    WEBSITE: The Pill Kills - 2012 - The Pill Kills Women and Babies


    6. THE BIRTH CONTROL PILL BY 28DAYSONTHEPILL:

    The Birth Control Pill - YouTube


    7. HOW THE "PILL" WORKS AS AN ABORTIFACIENT:

    How "The Pill" works as an Abortifacient - YouTube


    8. ABORTIFACIENT CONTRACEPTIVES:

    "Abortifacient Contraceptives" w/ Fr. Thomas Euteneuer - YouTube


    9. DR. PAUL CARPENTIER DISCUSSES HOW THE BIRTH CONTROL PILL KILLS WOMEN AND THEIR CHILDREN:

    Dr. Paul Carpentier and how the birth control pill kills women and their children - YouTube


    10. HOW THE PILL KILLS BABIES, WOMEN AND THE ENVIRONMENT:

    How the Pill Kills Babies, Women, and the Environment - YouTube


    11. THE BEGINNING OF HUMAN LIFE

    When Do Human Beings Begin? "Scientific" Myths and Scientific Facts

    By DIANNE N. IRVING, Ph.D., 1999, 2000.

    When Do Human Beings Begin?


    12. HUMAN EMBRYOLOGIST DR. C. WARD KISCHER ON THE BEGINNING OF HUMAN LIFE
    C. Ward Kischer, Ph.D. is an emeritus professor of Cell Biology and Anatomy, specialty in Human Embryology, University of Arizona, College of Medicine. He is also Chairman of The American Bioethics Advisory Commission and adult stem cell researcher.

    Part 1 of 2:

    lifeissues.net | When Does Human Life Begin? The Final Answer

    Part 2 of 2:

    lifeissues.net | When Does Human Life Begin? The Final Answer


    13. HAVE THEY NEVER HEARD OF HUMAN EMBRYOLOGY?

    Dr. C. Ward Kischer
    C. Ward Kischer, Ph.D. is an emeritus professor of Cell Biology and Anatomy, specialty in Human Embryology, University of Arizona, College of Medicine. He is also Chairman of The American Bioethics Advisory Commission and adult stem cell researcher.

    lifeissues.net | Have They Never Heard Of Human Embryology?


    14. RELIABLE URLs FOR HUMAN EMBRYOLOGY: THE CARNEGIE STAGES OF EARLY HUMAN EMBRYONIC DEVELOPMENT

    Dianne Irving, Ph.D.

    April 20, 2011

    lifeissues.net | Reliable URLs for Human Embryology: The Carnegie Stages of Early Human Embryonic Development


    15. BABY STEPS: 4D ULTRASOUND

    American Life League (ALL)

    Baby Steps: 4D Ultrasound - YouTube


    16. DEPO-PROVERA: INJECTABLE ABORTION

    http://www.hli.org/files/PLTP_DepoFinal.pdf


    17. ADVISORY DOCTOR TO FDA CONFIRMS MORNING-AFTER PILL ACTS AS ABORTIFACIENT

    By Gudrun Schultz

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...6/oct/06100408


    18. WHY THIS PHARMACY DOES NOT SELL THE 'MORNING-AFTER' PILL

    John Wilks, B. Pharm., MPS, MACPP

    lifeissues.net | Why this pharmacy does not sell the 'morning-after' pill.


    19. PRE-IMPLANTATION "CONTRACEPTION" WORKS AS AN ABORTION DRUG

    By Anna Franzonello, June 28, 2012

    Pre-Implantation "Contraception" Works as an Abortion Drug | LifeNews.com


    20. MIFEPRESTONE: A PILL THAT KILLS

    By Denise Hunnell, MD, June 29, 2012

    LifeSiteNews Mobile | Mifeprestone: a pill that kills


    21. THE UNHEARD-OF HOLOCAUST: ABORTIFACIENT CONTRACEPTION

    By Thomas Reynolds, July 19, 2012

    The unheard-of holocaust: Abortifacient contraception | ALL.org


    22. THE PILL KILLS WOMEN AND BABIES

    By Rita Diller, Celebrate Life Magazine, July-August 2012

    Celebrate Life Magazine

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    PART II: DEMOGRAPHIC WINTER


    1. DEMOGRAPHIC WINTER - THE DECLINE OF THE HUMAN FAMILY

    51 minutes

    Demographic Winter - the decline of the human family (Full Movie) - YouTube


    2. WARNING BELL FOR DEVELOPED COUNTRIES: DECLINING BIRTH RATES

    There Will be a Shift in Power Unless Birth Rates Increase in the Developed World

    By Lee Kuan Yew, Forbes Magazine, May 7, 2012
    Warning Bell for Developed Countries: Declining Birth Rates - Forbes.com


    3. JAPAN SHRINKS

    Many nations have aging populations, but none can quite match Japan. Its experience holds lessons for other countries as well as insights into the distinctiveness of Japanese society.

    By Nicholas Eberstadt, Wilson Quarterly, Spring 2012

    http://www.wilsonquarterly.com/article.cfm?aid=2143


    4. THE ASIAN TIGER - JAPAN - IS IN DANGER OF EXTINCTION

    By Brian Clowes, Ph.D., HLI World Watch, May 3, 2012

    The Asian Tiger


    5. NUMBER OF CHILDREN IN JAPAN FALLS FOR 31ST CONSECUTIVE YEAR

    Asahi Shimbun, May 5, 2012

    Number of children in Japan falls for 31st consecutive year - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun


    6. JAPAN'S POPULATION MARKS SHARPEST DROP SINCE 1950

    Asahi Shimbun, April 18, 2012

    "Japan's population last year shrank at the fastest rate since 1950 when the government began keeping comparable records, figures show."

    Japan's population marks sharpest drop since 1950 - AJW by The Asahi Shimbun


    7. JAPAN'S POPULATION DECLINES BY RECORD IN CHALLENGE FOR GROWTH

    Bloomberg News, April 17, 2012

    Japan


    8. JAPAN UNDERPOPULATION SO BAD FAMILIES RESORT TO "RENTAL RELATIVES"

    By Susan Yoshihara, Ph.D., May 4, 2012

    Japan Underpopulation So Bad Families Resort to "Rental Relatives" | LifeNews.com


    9. STUNNING FACTS ABOUT JAPAN'S DEMOGRAPHIC IMPLOSION

    Business Insider, April 24, 2012

    Japan's Population Is Imploding - Business Insider


    10. A BABY BUST EMPTIES OUT JAPAN'S SCHOOLS

    A Baby Bust Empties Out Japan's Schools (washingtonpost.com)


    11. LIVING ALONE IN TOKYO

    The Japan Times, March 25, 2012

    Living alone in Tokyo | The Japan Times Online


    12. DEMOGRAPHY IS DESTINY

    The Perils of Population Loss

    By Jonathan Last, The Weekly Standard, April 23, 2012

    https://www.weeklystandard.com/artic...98.html?page=1


    13. SINGAPORE SLING: HOW SLOWING POPULATION GROWTH MAY HURT ONE OF THE WORLD'S GREAT CITIES

    By Brian Clowes, Ph.D., HLI World Watch, May 1, 2012

    Singapore Sling: How Slowing Population Growth May Hurt One of the World’s Great Cities


    14. SINGAPORE FERTILITY RATE FALLS TO RECORD LOW

    Singapore fertility rate falls to record low - Channel NewsAsia


    15. JAPAN'S BIGGEST CHALLENGE: ITS AGING POPULATION

    Agence France Presse (AFP) Youtube video:

    Japan's biggest challenge: its aging population - YouTube


    16. INTO THE UNKNOWN
    Japan is ageing faster than any country in history, with vast consequences for its economy and society. So why, asks Henry Tricks, is it doing so little to adapt?

    The Economist, November 18, 2010

    Into the unknown | The Economist

    17. OVER HALF OF ITALIAN FAMILIES CHILDLESS: REPORT

    By Hilary White

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/arc...0/mar/10032405


    18. VENICE STAGES OWN FUNERAL TO MOURN ITS POPULATION LOSS

    Venice stages funeral to mourn population loss - 14 Nov 09 - YouTube


    19. POPULATION DECLINE SET TO TURN VENICE INTO ITALY'S DISNEYLAND

    The Guardian (U.K.)

    Population decline set to turn Venice into Italy's Disneyland | World news | The Guardian

    20. DECLINE IN FERTILITY RATES, RECESSION CAUSE GLOBAL SOCIAL SECURITY PROBLEMS

    Voice of America (VOA) News, August 24, 2010

    Decline in Fertility Rates, Recession Cause Global Social Security Problems - YouTube


    21. TAIWAN BIRTH RATE FALLS TO WORLD'S LOWEST

    By Ralph Jennings, Voice of America (VOA) News, August 17, 2011

    Taiwan Birth Rate Falls to World


    22. ECONOMIST MAGAZINE ADMITS LOW FERTILITY IS KILLING JAPANESE ECONOMY

    By Matthew Cullinan Hoffman

    LifeSiteNews Mobile | Economist magazine admits low fertility is killing Japanese economy
    23. MINISTER MENTOR LEE KUAN YEW: POPULATION IN SINGAPORE COULD HALVE IN 20 YEARS

    Singapore Now, The Straits Times, Razor TV (Singapore), September 15, 2010

    MM Lee: Population in Singapore could halve in 20 years - YouTube


    24. SINGAPORE'S RECORD-LOW FERTILITY RATE

    News Singapore, January 18, 2011

    MM Lee weighs in on Singapore's record-low fertility rate - YouTube


    25. MOSCOW DEMOGRAPHIC SUMMIT, JUNE 29-30, 2011

    PHILLIP LONGMAN (SUMMIT SPEECH)

    PHILIP LONGMAN (summit speech) - YouTube


    26. MOSCOW DEMOGRAPHIC SUMMIT, JUNE 29-30, 2011

    FRANCISCO TATAD (SUMMIT SPEECH)

    FRANCISCO TATAD (summit speech) - YouTube


    27. ANALYSIS: AGEING, INDEBTED JAPAN HOLDS LESSONS FOR OTHERS

    Reuters, January 12, 2012

    Analysis: Ageing, indebted Japan holds lessons for others | Reuters


    28. JAPAN POPULATION SEEN FALLING 30 PERCENT BY 2060

    Reuters, Jan. 30, 2012

    Japan population seen falling 30 percent by 2060 | Reuters


    29. JAPAN'S POPULATION FACES DRAMATIC DECLINE

    CNN, Jan. 30, 2012

    Japan's population faces dramatic decline - CNN.com

    30. S. KOREA TO SPEND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO BOOST BIRTHRATE

    AFP: S.Korea to spend billions of dollars to boost birthrate


    31. TAIWAN'S SHRINKING POPULATION

    Taiwan's shrinking population: The 1.5-million-baby challenge

    32. TAIWAN FACES RISK OF DEMOGRAPHIC COLLAPSE

    By Peter Westmore, News Weekly (Australia), Nov. 26, 2011

    FOREIGN AFFAIRS: Taiwan faces risk of demographic collapse (Peter Westmore)


    33. "Taiwan's birth rate is dropping like a stone..."

    EDITORIAL : Slogans won?t fix population crisis - Taipei Times

    34. SINGAPORE'S BIRTH-RATE CHALLENGES: AGEING AND SHRINKING POPULATION

    S'pore's birth-rate challenges: Ageing and shrinking population

    35. ITALY: POPULATION DECLINE CATALYST FOR ECONOMIC DECLINE

    Seniors World Chronicle, November 18, 2011

    Seniors World Chronicle: ITALY: Population Decline Catalyst For Economic Decline


    36. LESS THAN TWO PEOPLE PER TOKYO HOME

    Japan Times, March 16, 2012

    Less than two people per Tokyo home | The Japan Times Online
    37. RUSSIAN POPULATION DWINDLING, CREATING "GHOST VILLAGES"
    March 6, 2012

    Russian population dwindling, creating 'Ghost Villages' - International - Catholic Online


    38. DEMOGRAPHIC CHANGES HURT BABYBOOMER POCKETS

    By Stefano Gennarini, March 6, 2012

    Demographic Winter is Crippling the Economy : Turtle Bay and Beyond – International Law, Policy, and Institutions
    39. JAPAN IN THE DEATH SPIRAL

    By Brian Clowes, Ph.D.

    lifeissues.net | Japan in the Death Spiral
    40. THE UNDER-POPULATION PROBLEM

    by Michael J. Miller

    An Interview with Steven Mosher on the Demographic Consequences of Birth Control Policies

    The Underpopulation Problem


    41. EU ECONOMIC CRISIS STEMS DIRECTLY FROM LOW BIRTH RATE: HEAD OF VATICAN BANK

    by Hilary White, July 21, 2011

    LifeSiteNews Mobile | EU economic crisis stems directly from low birth rate: Head of Vatican bank


    42. 'EUROPE IS DYING,' U.S. POPULATION EXPERT TELLS SENATE HEARING

    By Thaddeus Baklinski

    LifeSiteNews Mobile | ‘Europe is dying’ U.S. population expert tells Senate hearing

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    Quote Originally Posted by marg View Post
    ITALY, where catolicism started, had their own Universal RH Bill approved in 1970. The pope did not say a thing.

    Let's not be TRYING HARD cathoilics.

    Daming gutom sa Pilipinas.

    Kaya dami gutom sa Pilipinas ay di dahil sa dami ng tao kungdi dahil sa corruption sa Philippine governance that the proper policies are not implemented to alleviate poverty.

    Sa ngayon nga kinakapos na ang ating agriculture industry of needed manpower to increase production.

    Medyo mahirap na rin kumuha ng mga tauhan para sales at tulong sa negosyo’t gawain bahay.

    It’s not a matter of being “trying Hard Catholics” but rather a matter of preventing the degeneration of Philippine Society and the curtailing of our basic right to practice or religion with the oppressive provisions and penalties of the RH Bill.

    Back in the 70’s, there were still no data concerning the action and side-effects of contraceptives that the moral issues involved was not yet manifest that the Catholic Church have had no pronouncements concerning the use of contraceptives.

    However with the medical findings that all contraceptives are abortifacients and that its use promotes irresponsibility leading promiscuity as evidenced with psychological and sociological studies of countries that have embraced the UNHR Population Control Agenda that the RH Bill in fact promotes, gave enough evidences to see that the use of contraceptives is harmful to humanity – therefore its use is immoral.

    The studies and findings were pronounced that Pope Paul VI pronounced in his encyclical ‘Humanae Vitae’ the condemnation of the use of contraceptives.

    It’s really not a matter of being “trying Hard Catholics” but rather a matter of preventing the degeneration of Philippine Society.

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    one famous 'Catholic' made his stand about RH bill...

    from: www.inquirer.net



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    This article is from the CBCP Monitor:

    CBCP Monitor Vol16 n18






    Ateneo rejects RH bill

    By Roy Lagarde





    THE Ateneo De Manila University (ADMU) has reaffirmed its opposition to the controversial reproductive health (RH) bill opposed by the Catholic Church.





    ADMU president Fr. Jose Ramon Villarin, SJ said the university has never changed its stand against artificial contraception together with the Catholic hierarchy.



    “Together with our leaders in the Catholic Church, the Ateneo de Manila University does not support the passage of House Bill 4244 (The Responsible Parenthood, Reproductive Health and Population and Development Bill),”Villarin said.“



    As many of these leaders have pointed out, the present form of the proposed bill contains provisions that could be construed to threaten constitutional rights as well as to weaken commonly shared human and spiritual values,” he said.



    The head of one of the country’s leading universities made the statement August 20 as a reaction to the endorsement made by 159 ADMU professors for the passage of the RH bill.



    It also followed a strong appeal made by the head of the Catholic Bishops ‘Conference of the Philippines for Catholic schools not to defy the teachings of the Church.



    In letter to the CBCP, the Jesuit hierarchy has also assured support forth CBCP in its fight against the bill, which will require billions of pesos in taxpayers’ money to fund contraception and sterilization programs as well as “questionable” ***-education modules.



    Fr. Jose Magadia, provincial superior of the Society of Jesus in the Philip-pines, said that in the country’s many struggles, they have always sought to work with the bishops as their “pastors and guides.”



    “This means, as has happened in many prior issues of national concern, it is our preference not to lead you but to follow you, our Bishops,” Magadia said.



    “May such spirit continue even as we remain one with you in prayer and in desire that fullness of the Gospel be proclaimed for all our people,” he said.





    Don’t defy Church teachings



    Archbishop Jose Palma, CBCP president, asserted that Catholic universities must teach and uphold the official teachings of the Church.



    “If we are a Catholic school, we should not teach anything contrary to the official teachings of the church,” Palma said.



    Amid the debate on a controversial artificial contraception measure, he admitted that there is a clash of beliefs between the church and teachers of some Catholic schools.



    “In some places, we first talk to them because some teachers may have some misunderstanding of what they think of freedom of conscience or academic freedom,” said Palma.



    “In some of the universities, we say that if you want to teach that idea, do not do it in a Catholic school because we are confusing the students… do it in other universities,” he said.



    The CBCP head stressed that the motive why many parents send their children to Catholic schools are for reasons of faith formation.



    “They are hoping that their children will learn the Catholic teaching and also the Catholic formation,’ he said. “It will be a contradiction if we will bombard them with ideas which are against the official teachings of the Catholic faith,” added Palma.





    Open to dialogue



    Palma said the CBCP is also willing to conduct dialogue with professors of the Jesuit-run Ateneo De Manila University over the RH bill.



    “For me, there’s really a need for a sincere dialogue because the professors, I think must be motivated by their desire to discover what is good,” Palma said.



    The bishops, he said, are open to dialogue with the pro-RH bill Ateneo professors “because we are all part of the Church and we are responsible for our actions.”



    “We are willing to meet other people with dialogue,” said the soft-spoken prelate.



    He also revealed that members of the CBCP Permanent Council will meet on September 4 to talk on certain “academic concerns” related to RH bill.



    “We will talk about good approaches, solutions and the task of Catholic universities to seek the truth and of course to continue studying and working out hoping to come out with possible solutions to many concerns from the academic and also related points of view,” Palma said.



    “In the search, we should be guided by the light of truth or by the light of faith. That is the mission of the Church,” he said.



    Palma also lauded the ‘sincerity’ of the ADMU administration and the Philippine Province of the Society of Jesus in standing with the CBCP against the RH bill.



    “They are both sincere in saying that they are with us together with the Catholic Church when they said that they are with us,” he said.





    ‘Not trigger happy’



    Lingayen-Dagupan Archbishop Socrates Villegas, CBCP vice president, echoed Palma’s statement and emphasized that the bishops are not just acting on issues without valid reason.



    “We bishops are not trigger happy with imposing penalties because we, at first, are brothers and we, at first, are fathers who need to guide and correct,” Villegas said.



    He made the statement during a press conference at the start of the 2012 Catholic Educational Association of the Philippines (CEAP) Annual Convention at the SMX Center in Pasay City on August 29.



    According to him, the bishops would always resort to dialogue in cases of misunderstandings within the church.





    “When we see errors, the first thing that we do is to dialogue… call the child and ask for an explanation then explain my side and listen to his side. Let us talk,” he said.



    If the dialogue does not work, he said that by law, there has to be a written reprimand and they go on with investigation.



    “But if the child of the Church remains incorrigible, then that is when the sanctions are imposed. And the sanctions are not always excommunication. It is not always termination from the job. There are different degrees of sanction,” said Villegas, who also chairs the CBCP Episcopal Commission on Catechesis and Catholic Education.



    The CEAP also reiterated its “one-ness” with the bishops and expressed its strong objection to any law, which promotes “abortifacient regulation of birth.”



    “The killing of human life is absolutely forbidden. It is prohibited by the Philippines Constitution and prohibited by the 5th Commandment. The CEAP is one (with the bishops) in protecting human life from the moment of conception,” the CEAP said in a statement read by its National Advocacy Commission Chair, Fr. Joel Tabora SJ.



    “The CEAP supports the bishops in their official teachings, which is binding all believers the official teaching concerning the dignity of human life, the need to choose life and to support a culture of life and to affirm and reaffirm the sacredness of ***uality,” said Tabora, who is also the president of Ateneo De Davao University.





    Contradiction



    In a statement, the Ateneo professors said that the RH bill is not a population control measure but a legislation that promotes ***ual reproductive rights, the right to health and the right to in-formed choice.



    Their position, however, contradicts the statement of no other than President Benigno Aquino III who wants the bill passed, saying that population control is the answer to the backlogs in education and the alleviation of poverty.



    The professors first released this statement in 2008, and reiterated their stand recently as the House entered into the period of amendments on the RH measure.



    They also stated that they are not speaking for the entire Ateneo institution and only expressing their personal position.



    Villarin also asked Ateneo professors who are engaged in the Christian formation to ensure that the “Catholic position on this matter continues to be taught in our classes, as we have always done.”



    He added the university will continue to support the Church in its future actions should the bill is passed by Congress.



    “Should the bill with whatever amendments be passed, we should neither hesitate to bring to the judiciary whatever legal questions we may have nor cease to be vigilant in ensuring that no coercion takes place in implantation,” he added.

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    Promiscuity is there, whether we want it or not. Global culture promotes it. We can hide our heads in the sand and pretend we can protect our children from ever learning abput it... but most of the girls I know who had to drop out of school due to pregnancy were the most sheltered... or we can give people the tools to deal with the side effects. Go to any slum area or provincial town and look at all the fifteen year old mothers in the eye and tell them they shouldn't learn about or use contraceptives.

    If you read the bill, it gives everyone involved the option to either use or not use artifical contraceptives. Abortifacents are not promoted. Any contraceptive found to be abortifacent can be banned by law... As has already happened with certain pills.

    Philippine society has no further to degenrate. Since the 80's, children could pick up discarded tabloids at the fish vendor and read about ***, or see ***y films by sneaking into the cinema. Since the 90's, they could see it on the computer at cybercafes or at home.

    Children know ***. You might try to deny it or stop your kid from learning, but how does that protect them from the other kids that do? An uninformed girl or boy is an easy target for ***ual predators or even promiscuous classmates.

    Knowledge is power. And the RH Bill is all about knowledge, a proper *** ed curriculum that also promotes abstinence, comprehensive reproductive health counselling, everything. The authors have already backed down on the ideal family size provision, which I also disagree with, as ideal size should be around 3 to 4 instead of 2, to make uo for those who don't have kids. And there's nothing in there promoting abortion or forcing people to use contraceptives. So what's the problem?
    Last edited by niky; September 20th, 2012 at 10:42 AM.

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    ^^ kakasabi lang na wag gayahin si sotto eh

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    Fr. Bernas is Jesuit.



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    This is great news. Thanks for sharing. --Benjy

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    ----- Reply message -----
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    Date: Thu, Aug 30, 2012 8:28 pm



    This article is from the CBCP Monitor:

    CBCP Monitor Vol16 n18






    Ateneo rejects RH bill

    By Roy Lagarde





    THE Ateneo De Manila University (ADMU) has reaffirmed its opposition to the controversial reproductive health (RH) bill opposed by the Catholic Church.





    ADMU president Fr. Jose Ramon Villarin, SJ said the university has never changed its stand against artificial contraception together with the Catholic hierarchy.



    “Together with our leaders in the Catholic Church, the Ateneo de Manila University does not support the passage of House Bill 4244 (The Responsible Parenthood, Reproductive Health and Population and Development Bill),”Villarin said.“



    As many of these leaders have pointed out, the present form of the proposed bill contains provisions that could be construed to threaten constitutional rights as well as to weaken commonly shared human and spiritual values,” he said.



    The head of one of the country’s leading universities made the statement August 20 as a reaction to the endorsement made by 159 ADMU professors for the passage of the RH bill.



    It also followed a strong appeal made by the head of the Catholic Bishops ‘Conference of the Philippines for Catholic schools not to defy the teachings of the Church.



    In letter to the CBCP, the Jesuit hierarchy has also assured support forth CBCP in its fight against the bill, which will require billions of pesos in taxpayers’ money to fund contraception and sterilization programs as well as “questionable” ***-education modules.



    Fr. Jose Magadia, provincial superior of the Society of Jesus in the Philip-pines, said that in the country’s many struggles, they have always sought to work with the bishops as their “pastors and guides.”



    “This means, as has happened in many prior issues of national concern, it is our preference not to lead you but to follow you, our Bishops,” Magadia said.



    “May such spirit continue even as we remain one with you in prayer and in desire that fullness of the Gospel be proclaimed for all our people,” he said.





    Don’t defy Church teachings



    Archbishop Jose Palma, CBCP president, asserted that Catholic universities must teach and uphold the official teachings of the Church.



    “If we are a Catholic school, we should not teach anything contrary to the official teachings of the church,” Palma said.



    Amid the debate on a controversial artificial contraception measure, he admitted that there is a clash of beliefs between the church and teachers of some Catholic schools.



    “In some places, we first talk to them because some teachers may have some misunderstanding of what they think of freedom of conscience or academic freedom,” said Palma.



    “In some of the universities, we say that if you want to teach that idea, do not do it in a Catholic school because we are confusing the students… do it in other universities,” he said.



    The CBCP head stressed that the motive why many parents send their children to Catholic schools are for reasons of faith formation.



    “They are hoping that their children will learn the Catholic teaching and also the Catholic formation,’ he said. “It will be a contradiction if we will bombard them with ideas which are against the official teachings of the Catholic faith,” added Palma.





    Open to dialogue



    Palma said the CBCP is also willing to conduct dialogue with professors of the Jesuit-run Ateneo De Manila University over the RH bill.



    “For me, there’s really a need for a sincere dialogue because the professors, I think must be motivated by their desire to discover what is good,” Palma said.



    The bishops, he said, are open to dialogue with the pro-RH bill Ateneo professors “because we are all part of the Church and we are responsible for our actions.”



    “We are willing to meet other people with dialogue,” said the soft-spoken prelate.



    He also revealed that members of the CBCP Permanent Council will meet on September 4 to talk on certain “academic concerns” related to RH bill.



    “We will talk about good approaches, solutions and the task of Catholic universities to seek the truth and of course to continue studying and working out hoping to come out with possible solutions to many concerns from the academic and also related points of view,” Palma said.



    “In the search, we should be guided by the light of truth or by the light of faith. That is the mission of the Church,” he said.



    Palma also lauded the ‘sincerity’ of the ADMU administration and the Philippine Province of the Society of Jesus in standing with the CBCP against the RH bill.



    “They are both sincere in saying that they are with us together with the Catholic Church when they said that they are with us,” he said.





    ‘Not trigger happy’



    Lingayen-Dagupan Archbishop Socrates Villegas, CBCP vice president, echoed Palma’s statement and emphasized that the bishops are not just acting on issues without valid reason.



    “We bishops are not trigger happy with imposing penalties because we, at first, are brothers and we, at first, are fathers who need to guide and correct,” Villegas said.



    He made the statement during a press conference at the start of the 2012 Catholic Educational Association of the Philippines (CEAP) Annual Convention at the SMX Center in Pasay City on August 29.



    According to him, the bishops would always resort to dialogue in cases of misunderstandings within the church.





    “When we see errors, the first thing that we do is to dialogue… call the child and ask for an explanation then explain my side and listen to his side. Let us talk,” he said.



    If the dialogue does not work, he said that by law, there has to be a written reprimand and they go on with investigation.



    “But if the child of the Church remains incorrigible, then that is when the sanctions are imposed. And the sanctions are not always excommunication. It is not always termination from the job. There are different degrees of sanction,” said Villegas, who also chairs the CBCP Episcopal Commission on Catechesis and Catholic Education.



    The CEAP also reiterated its “one-ness” with the bishops and expressed its strong objection to any law, which promotes “abortifacient regulation of birth.”



    “The killing of human life is absolutely forbidden. It is prohibited by the Philippines Constitution and prohibited by the 5th Commandment. The CEAP is one (with the bishops) in protecting human life from the moment of conception,” the CEAP said in a statement read by its National Advocacy Commission Chair, Fr. Joel Tabora SJ.



    “The CEAP supports the bishops in their official teachings, which is binding all believers the official teaching concerning the dignity of human life, the need to choose life and to support a culture of life and to affirm and reaffirm the sacredness of ***uality,” said Tabora, who is also the president of Ateneo De Davao University.





    Contradiction



    In a statement, the Ateneo professors said that the RH bill is not a population control measure but a legislation that promotes ***ual reproductive rights, the right to health and the right to in-formed choice.



    Their position, however, contradicts the statement of no other than President Benigno Aquino III who wants the bill passed, saying that population control is the answer to the backlogs in education and the alleviation of poverty.



    The professors first released this statement in 2008, and reiterated their stand recently as the House entered into the period of amendments on the RH measure.



    They also stated that they are not speaking for the entire Ateneo institution and only expressing their personal position.



    Villarin also asked Ateneo professors who are engaged in the Christian formation to ensure that the “Catholic position on this matter continues to be taught in our classes, as we have always done.”



    He added the university will continue to support the Church in its future actions should the bill is passed by Congress.



    “Should the bill with whatever amendments be passed, we should neither hesitate to bring to the judiciary whatever legal questions we may have nor cease to be vigilant in ensuring that no coercion takes place in implantation,” he added.

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    info required for links I copied, pasted and posted are all in the link.


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    Pinoy catholic

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    Something the Catholic Church disagrees...


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    In praise of MVP and Miriam - FROM THE STANDS By Domini M. Torrevillas - The Philippine Star » News » Opinion

    In praise of MVP and Miriam
    FROM THE STANDS By Domini M. Torrevillas (The Philippine Star) Updated September 27, 2012 12:00 AM


    I join Sen. Miriam Defensor Santiago in praising businessman Manny V. Pangilinan for supporting the Reproductive Health bill as he announced his “complete and total disengagement” from the Ateneo University whose views on the bill conflicted with his personal convictions. Pangilinan was a generous financial supporter of the university.

    Pangilinan said in his letter to Ateneo president Fr. Jett Villarin, SJ, that he did “not agree (either) with some of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines’ pronouncements, including its recent stance on the RH bill. At times, I believe the CBCP has taken positions contrary to the interest of our country.”

    He wrote further: “The CBCP should earn its rightful place in the national debating table by showing tangibly and significantly its concern for the poor and the corrupt, and sharing the burden with business and government the enormous task of nation-building — including the appropriate moral formation of our people and our leaders.”

    “My only prayer is that more people would be as independent-minded as Manny,” Santiago said at a media conference. “The RH bill would be beneficial to our people, especially the poor. No one can help us but ourselves.”

    Santiago is co-sponsor with Sen. Pia Cayetano of the RH bill in the Senate. A statement from her media bureau said she is “dismayed that the Senate leadership has yet to calendar the RH bill for plenary amendments.” The RH bill, she said, is over ten years old, “it is cowardly to keep postponing the decision.”

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    Besides the RH bill, we also must get rid of certain useless octgenarian polticians who made things worst for us.... Only India has more crowded cities in the world. 2nd place tayo...

    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos Celdran*FB
    Manila has become the world's most densely packed city in the world. Not Metro Manila. But Manila. National Government. PAY ATTENTION. And Mayor Lim. Just fu*king leave already. Your incompetence is dragging ALL of us down.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...lation_density

    List of cities proper by population density

    Rank City Country
    1 Manila Philippines
    6 Pateros Philippines
    12 Mandaluyong Philippines
    15 Caloocan Philippines
    22 Malabon Philippine
    25 Navotas Philippines
    31 Pasay Philippines
    34 San Juan Philippines
    36 Pasig Philippines
    41 Makati Philippines
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    Some bishops see pro-RH foes behind Cebu priest’s case

    Some Catholic prelates believe that the issues raised against Msgr. Cristobal Garcia are being used by their enemies to discredit the Church and may also have something to do with its stand on the reproductive health (RH) bill.
    “The enemies are using that particular case in Cebu to discredit the Church,” said Sorsogon Bishop Arturo Bastes, a member of the Permanent Council of the Catholic Bishops’ Conference of the Philippines (CBCP).
    Garcia, who has a huge collection of religious icons made of ivory, has been linked by the National Geographic to the illegal ivory trade.

    Some bishops see pro-RH foes behind Cebu priest

    Priests lying to protect a Pedophile in Cebu

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    Hahaha... f***ing bull****.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    God's chosen catholics, living in a 9 square meter room in Paco.



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    ^^^

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