Reproductive Health Bill 5043 [MERGED]

[uls]

For your information Mr. LAWYER, a sizable number of the people attending the recent rally was MISINFORMED by the rally organizers. They were told that the rally was an ANTI-ABORTION rally. The people attending the rally was not told it was an anti-RH Bill rally.

This FACT was reported over the TV and newspapers.

Does the Philippine Catholic Church allow it's people to LIE to the masses as along as it achieves it goals? Is it just a matter of leading sheep to the slaughter?

and if you ask those people who attended the rally, they don't even know what the RH bill is all about

those people were just USED by their leaders

the goal of the leaders is to mobilize a lot of people. to show the govt they got support. they used lies and deception to convince people to join the rally

[digitalron]

I got a question...

The Roman Catholic Church is supposedly pro-life, right? They also say that increasing the population is beneficial to help sustain the creation of resources, and that dwindling populations are dangerous as it reduces the wealth-creation capacity.

If this were true, how come the RCC doesn't let the priests and nuns help in increasing the population?

Isn't that being contrary to being pro-life?

[hein]

I got a question...

The Roman Catholic Church is supposedly pro-life, right? They also say that increasing the population is beneficial to help sustain the creation of resources, and that dwindling populations are dangerous as it reduces the wealth-creation capacity.

If this were true, how come the RCC doesn't let the priests and nuns help in increasing the population?

Isn't that being contrary to being pro-life?

Do you really want to know why the catholic church disallows priests from having children?

Because the greedy priests of the early church were treating church property as their own and passing them to their children as Inheritance?

The catholic church wants to maintain its vast wealth within the organization

[beereo]

I got a question...

The Roman Catholic Church is supposedly pro-life, right? They also say that increasing the population is beneficial to help sustain the creation of resources, and that dwindling populations are dangerous as it reduces the wealth-creation capacity.

If this were true, how come the RCC doesn't let the priests and nuns help in increasing the population?

Isn't that being contrary to being pro-life?

priests and nuns have three vows: poverty, chastity and obedience. joining the priesthood is known as the sacrament of holy orders. it differs from the sacrament of matrimony where one of the goals is procreation.

[beereo]

and if you ask those people who attended the rally, they don't even know what the RH bill is all about

those people were just USED by their leaders

the goal of the leaders is to mobilize a lot of people. to show the govt they got support. they used lies and deception to convince people to join the rally

For your information Mr. LAWYER, a sizable number of the people attending the recent rally was MISINFORMED by the rally organizers. They were told that the rally was an ANTI-ABORTION rally. The people attending the rally was not told it was an anti-RH Bill rally.

This FACT was reported over the TV and newspapers.

Does the Philippine Catholic Church allow it's people to LIE to the masses as along as it achieves it goals? Is it just a matter of leading sheep to the slaughter?

Are your sources reliable? Those relayed by news reporters are second-hand information. In the field of law, judges and justices alike only accept the witness' personal knowledge of the facts in issue because second-hand info appears to be tainted with fraud. There are Supreme Court decisions denouncing the presentation of news clippings as part of one's evidence. Look at what happened to Hubert Webb's case. It appeared that Jessica Alfaro's testimony in court was not her personal knowledge. It goes without saying that news and print media can cause your destruction.

I attend mass everyday and I never heard any announcement calling for an anti-abortion rally. It was an "anti-rh" rally. Our parish priest even posted tarpaulins outside the church, in cooperation with the Couples for Christ Group, to entice parishioners to join the rally.

[ghosthunter]

priests and nuns have three vows: poverty, chastity and obedience. joining the priesthood is known as the sacrament of holy orders. it differs from the sacrament of matrimony where one of the goals is procreation.

Obedience ...

The Philippine Catholic Church is under the Pope in Vatican in Rome.

The Pope in the Vatican says condoms are okay.

So why is the Philippine Catholic Church disobeying the decision of the Vatican?

[ghosthunter]

Are your sources reliable? Those relayed by news reporters are second-hand information. In the field of law, judges and justices alike only accept the witness' personal knowledge of the facts in issue because second-hand info appears to be tainted with fraud. There are Supreme Court decisions denouncing the presentation of news clippings as part of one's evidence. Look at what happened to Hubert Webb's case. It appeared that Jessica Alfaro's testimony in court was not her personal knowledge. It goes without saying that news and print media can cause your destruction.

I attend mass everyday and I never heard any announcement calling for an anti-abortion rally. It was an "anti-rh" rally. Our parish priest even posted tarpaulins outside the church, in cooperation with the Couples for Christ Group, to entice parishioners to join the rally.

[beereo]

Obedience ...

The Philippine Catholic Church is under the Pope in Vatican in Rome.

The Pope in the Vatican says condoms are okay.

So why is the Philippine Catholic Church disobeying the decision of the Vatican?

The Pope did not say that we can use contraceptives outright. We can use contraceptives if we are afflicted with AIDS. Are you afflicted with AIDS?

[oliver1013]

[beereo]

It was an anti-rh rally. We no longer need to denounce abortion because it is a crime punishable under the Revised Penal Code (Act No. 3815) since January 1, 1932. The pertinent provisions of the Revised Penal Code are the following:

Art. 255. Infanticide. — The penalty provided for parricide in Article 246 and for murder in Article 248 shall be imposed upon any person who shall kill any child less than three days of age.
If the crime penalized in this article be committed by the mother of the child for the purpose of concealing her dishonor, she shall suffer the penalty of prision correccional in its medium and maximum periods, and if said crime be committed for the same purpose by the maternal grandparents or either of them, the penalty shall be prision mayor.

Art. 256. Intentional abortion. — Any person who shall intentionally cause an abortion shall suffer:

1. The penalty of reclusion temporal, if he shall use any violence upon the person of the pregnant woman.
2. The penalty of prision mayor if, without using violence, he shall act without the consent of the woman.

3. The penalty of prision correccional in its medium and maximum periods, if the woman shall have consented.

Art. 257. Unintentional abortion. — The penalty of prision correccional in its minimum and medium period shall be imposed upon any person who shall cause an abortion by violence, but unintentionally.
Art. 258. Abortion practiced by the woman herself of by her parents. — The penalty of prision correccional in its medium and maximum periods shall be imposed upon a woman who shall practice abortion upon herself or shall consent that any other person should do so.

Any woman who shall commit this offense to conceal her dishonor, shall suffer the penalty of prision correccional in its minimum and medium periods.

If this crime be committed by the parents of the pregnant woman or either of them, and they act with the consent of said woman for the purpose of concealing her dishonor, the offenders shall suffer the penalty of prision correccional in its medium and maximum periods.

Art. 259. Abortion practiced by a physician or midwife and dispensing of abortives. — The penalties provided in Article 256 shall be imposed in its maximum period, respectively, upon any physician or midwife who, taking advantage of their scientific knowledge or skill, shall cause an abortion or assist in causing the same.

Any pharmacist who, without the proper prescription from a physician, shall dispense any abortive shall suffer arresto mayor and a fine not exceeding 1,000 pesos.

[ghosthunter]

The Pope did not say that we can use contraceptives outright. We can use contraceptives if we are afflicted with AIDS. Are you afflicted with AIDS?

The Pope said does not limit just to AIDS..... but STD in general.

So if i use a condom with the reason of preventing the possible spread of STD, it is fine.

So it's okay to use a condom as long as the primary reason is prevention of spread of STDs. Never mind the secondary effect that it prevents pregnancies too.


So are we done with the condom issue?

[ghosthunter]

It was an anti-rh rally. We no longer need to denounce abortion because it is a crime punishable under the Revised Penal Code (Act No. 3815) since January 1, 1932. The pertinent provisions of the Revised Penal Code are the following:

Art. 255. Infanticide. — The penalty provided for parricide in Article 246 and for murder in Article 248 shall be imposed upon any person who shall kill any child less than three days of age.
If the crime penalized in this article be committed by the mother of the child for the purpose of concealing her dishonor, she shall suffer the penalty of prision correccional in its medium and maximum periods, and if said crime be committed for the same purpose by the maternal grandparents or either of them, the penalty shall be prision mayor.

Art. 256. Intentional abortion. — Any person who shall intentionally cause an abortion shall suffer:

1. The penalty of reclusion temporal, if he shall use any violence upon the person of the pregnant woman.
2. The penalty of prision mayor if, without using violence, he shall act without the consent of the woman.

3. The penalty of prision correccional in its medium and maximum periods, if the woman shall have consented.

Art. 257. Unintentional abortion. — The penalty of prision correccional in its minimum and medium period shall be imposed upon any person who shall cause an abortion by violence, but unintentionally.
Art. 258. Abortion practiced by the woman herself of by her parents. — The penalty of prision correccional in its medium and maximum periods shall be imposed upon a woman who shall practice abortion upon herself or shall consent that any other person should do so.

Any woman who shall commit this offense to conceal her dishonor, shall suffer the penalty of prision correccional in its minimum and medium periods.

If this crime be committed by the parents of the pregnant woman or either of them, and they act with the consent of said woman for the purpose of concealing her dishonor, the offenders shall suffer the penalty of prision correccional in its medium and maximum periods.

Art. 259. Abortion practiced by a physician or midwife and dispensing of abortives. — The penalties provided in Article 256 shall be imposed in its maximum period, respectively, upon any physician or midwife who, taking advantage of their scientific knowledge or skill, shall cause an abortion or assist in causing the same.

Any pharmacist who, without the proper prescription from a physician, shall dispense any abortive shall suffer arresto mayor and a fine not exceeding 1,000 pesos.

yaadaaa yaahaa yaahaa.... for someone who is supposed to be intelligent, you don't get the obvious....



The picture is meant to say not everyone there is informed what the rally is about.

Like I said before, some were misinformed about the rally... lead to think it was a anti-abortion rally.

Example:



A picture is worth a thousand words.

I dont need to type a whole lawbook entry to get my point across.

[beereo]

The Pope said does not limit just to AIDS..... but STD in general.

So if i use a condom with the reason of preventing the possible spread of STD, it is fine.

So it's okay to use a condom as long as the primary reason is prevention of spread of STDs. Never mind the secondary effect that it prevents pregnancies too.


So are we done with the condom issue?

You have not answered my query. Are you afflicted with any ***ually-transmitted disease or acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS)?

[beereo]

yaadaaa yaahaa yaahaa.... for someone who is supposed to be intelligent, you don't get the obvious....



The picture is meant to say not everyone there is informed what the rally is about.

Like I said before, some were misinformed about the rally... lead to think it was a anti-abortion rally.

Example:



A picture is worth a thousand words.

I don't need to type a whole lawbook entry to get my point across.

I think that you're running out words to express whatever little knowledge you have about the issue in question that was why you had to resort to a mere picture in order boost your incorrect and misguided stance.

Where did you get that picture? Is that an unreliable source again? Nowadays, pictures are edited and manipulated according to the whims and caprices of the perpetrator.

[ghosthunter]

You have not answered my query. Are you afflicted with any ***ually-transmitted disease or acquired immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS)?

Why should I validate your question with an answer? What does if I am afflicted with AIDS have to do with the RH Bill?

As I said, if I use a condom to prevent spread of S.T.D.s, then it validates the use of condoms as according to the Pope.

[ghosthunter]

I think that you're running out words to express whatever little knowledge you have about the issue in question that was why you had to resort to a mere picture in order boost your incorrect and misguided stance.

Where did you get that picture? Is that an unreliable source again? Nowadays, pictures are edited and manipulated according to the whims and caprices of the perpetrator.

LOL!

[beereo]

LOL!

you're laughing alone. HAHAHAHA. stick to the issue. stop posting pictures in order to convey your message! have some sense of originality! are you running out of words? who's running out of words now?

where are your arguments? you're pitiful!

[Starex_Gold]

The Pope did not say that we can use contraceptives outright. We can use contraceptives if we are afflicted with AIDS. Are you afflicted with AIDS?

So iintayin mo pang tamaan ka ng AIDS?

AMEN!

[Tincan]

Very entertaining naman tong thread na to hehehe.. idol na kita attorney!

Para kay ghost hunter:

Pahiya konte bukas bawe hehehehe!!!


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puro kase ngasngas d nmn alam sinasabe hahahahahaha! lol!

[Starex_Gold]

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