Re-establish US Bases?

[111prez]

the US even has bases in countries that can defend itself like japan, korea, germany, UK ......

[barako ba ma]

the US even has bases in countries that can defend itself like japan, korea, germany, UK ......

germany, a very productive country and heavily industrialized, does not like the idea of the u.s. bases closing in their area. it is a give and take. the u.s. puts billions of dollars into the country every year for the use of some property they have. it employs thousands of locals, puts money into their local businesses and they only have to concentrate in producing for the gnp. they do not have the big need of spending for defense since the u.s. is already in the house. the u.s. in turn saves money and lives for having a staging point closer to the middle east conflict and closer to medical attention at the landstuhl medical center near ramstein air base. it is not all bad. our people blamed the u.s. for the abuse of women and prostitution. has it gone better or has it gone worse since the us. navy and the u.s. air force pulled out of the country? i guess no matter who, even the locals (filipinos) are frequent flyers of these establishments of horizontal ballet.

[Altis6453]

can you explain why?

to me yes i want them to have a base here since our country can't defend itself. it doesn't have to be the USA we just need some one strong to have on our side so we won't be bullied by other countries so easily. the USA has bases all over the world on other countries and work out just fine, i can't understand why here in the philippines it's such a big issue.

Don't get me wrong. I'd like them here too, if only to dissuade our Chinese neighbors on their thoughts of expansionism. Then again, there are some consequences to ponder for that kind of deterrence.

It isn't a good idea for the US because they're fighting two wars at the moment and will likely spread their forces out thin if they commit troops and military equipment to another base in the Pacific. Moreover, there will be little political support from the US Congress since this will entail billions of US$ in taxpayer's money spending for establishing a military base.

For the PH, we're in a bit of a quandary because having a base or bases here with foreign troops will invite the same problems which we and other countries with foreign military bases have (i.e. abuses against locals, rise of red light districts, etc.).

What would be better is for the US to help build up the AFP's capacity to deal with external aggression by fast tracking the transfer of more modern naval and air assets and to train our enlisted men and women on how to use them. You see, there is an old street adage that says "a bully is a bully until it gets punched in the nose". Having a credible self-defense posture and a willingness to use it to enforce our sovreignty in our sea will earn us a measure of respect, not just from the big bully but by our other neighbors, as well.

[111prez]

it is possible that china will start putting up structures on panatag shoal and even with the protestations of the philippines to the UN and other international bodies, we will still not be able to do anything about it except just rant and rant

[yapoy86]

lahat kasi ng pinoy eh magaling ang tingin sa sarili.. madami ang MAMARU.. (MAMARU = Nagmamarunong)...

example lang mga PUV drivers... lahat yan magaling mag drive....

[safeorigin]

Hmmm... to be honest this had me thinking. If we can't defend our own turf, chances are (and history tells us), we'll lost our turf. Bootlicking for US bases is just a temporary solution given the American empire's volatility. Worse, the stand off puts economic restrains as investors would likely pull off if it turns into a mess.

So how do we claim such islands? Populate it with squatters!

Am I crazy? Nah. The Russians sent people to the disputed Kuril Islands. The Japanese Ultranationalists still can't do squat about it.

[Gerbo]

Not a good idea, either for the USA or the PH.

For the US, the huge population of PH will be bigger than California and Texas for the electoral college votes.

Puerto Rico was not even made into a US state despite being a stone's throw from the mainland.

[pop3corn]

if we are to give a territory to the Chinese, let's give up Mindanao ;)

[BoyBawang]

Boxing na lang..si pacman versus Jet li or jackie chan!

[Ry_Tower]

Gustuhin ko man pero malabo mangyari yan. Nagtitipid na sila.

[Jiggs]

Am in favor ONLY if they would build their bases in Patikul Sulu or Tawi Tawi, or any other Island where there are lots of lawless elements. Not anywhere nearest civilizations.

[hein]

Am in favor ONLY if they would build their bases in Patikul Sulu or Tawi Tawi, or any other Island where there are lots of lawless elements. Not anywhere nearest civilizations.

BEGGARS can't be choosers.

[pop3corn]

sa Mindanao sila magtayo ng bases kahit pinakamalaki pa sa Asia. in that way, centro talaga sa mga kalaban,

[ghosthunter]

sa Mindanao sila magtayo ng bases kahit pinakamalaki pa sa Asia. in that way, centro talaga sa mga kalaban,

That might be a good idea to help stimulate the development of the local economy of Mindanao.

[vinj]

Sa Palawan para mas malapit sa Spratlys!

Wushuu... gusto mo lang magkaroon dyan para magka PX goods ka sa inyo. (oil filter? :D)

That might be a good idea to help stimulate the development of the local economy of Mindanao.

Yes, and Mindanao has a lot of natural resources and rich lands which are also part of vested interests of many and can be put to good agricultural use if there was stability in the region. Itayo nila dyan sa may kila Ampatuan. Lots of raw, unused land over there.

[Ry_Tower]

Wushuu... gusto mo lang magkaroon dyan para magka PX goods ka sa inyo. (oil filter? :D)



Yes, and Mindanao has a lot of natural resources and rich lands which are also part of vested interests of many and can be put to good agricultural use if there was stability in the region. Itayo nila dyan sa may kila Ampatuan. Lots of raw, unused land over there.

May negosyo na agd akong naka-abang! wahahaha

[baludoy]

sa Mindanao sila magtayo ng bases kahit pinakamalaki pa sa Asia. in that way, centro talaga sa mga kalaban,

no need for that because technically an "american base" already exists there.

the uncle sam built (through the "auspices" of the usaid) seaport and airport of gensan were designed to accommodate their big ass ships-of-war and their venerable fighting aircrafts. those civilian/military projects were completed in the mid-90's and i remember when i was in davao city based back then, a heck of a noticeable lot of americans (cia types i was told) lingering the streets of dabaw doing their R'n R routine

i'm told that the american military can use and occupy those aforementioned gensan infrastructures when the need arises through one of those mutually signed treaties we have w/ them gringos

[mikejohnny]

bakit military base lang... gawin ng state ng u.s. ang pinas ng sa gayun ticket na lang papunta sa new york. etc. hehehe, mababawasan pa mga corrupt na goverment officials at politicians

[NightRock]

bakit military base lang... gawin ng state ng u.s. ang pinas ng sa gayun ticket na lang papunta sa new york. etc. hehehe, mababawasan pa mga corrupt na goverment officials at politicians

Pang nangyari yan wala ng pinoy na matitira sa Pinas.. palitan na yung mga kano nasa pinas mga pinoy na nasa US hehehe

[mikejohnny]

Pang nangyari yan wala ng pinoy na matitira sa Pinas.. palitan na yung mga kano nasa pinas mga pinoy na nasa US hehehe

correct! lalamig na rin sa pinas, hahaha. mas marami ng pinoy manonood laban ni pacquaio sa vegas