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View Poll Results: US Bases in PH, re-establish?

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  • Yes!

    27 65.85%
  • No, I hate the US

    2 4.88%
  • Undecided

    2 4.88%
  • Basta free US Visa

    9 21.95%
  • Wala akong pake

    1 2.44%
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    America’s policy of Chinese containment

    2012-04-13 (China Military News cited from ruvr.ru and by Alexey Pilko) -- Apparently, with the Cold War over, a new global confrontation between the United States and China could begin. One might get this impression after analyzing the steps taken by Washington in the international arena.
    For now, America is avoiding making any declarations towards China, such as the Truman or Eisenhower doctrines or Churchill’s Fulton speech. However, practical steps to curb Beijing have already been taken. The U.S. has been consolidating its power in Australia and Singapore, and there are plans to begin military assistance to countries in the Asia-Pacific region.

    From discussing the problem with American experts working on military issues, it becomes clear that today the United States, in its confrontation with China, has at least three lines of strategic deterrence located all over the Pacific Ocean. The first is in close proximity to the Chinese territory, based on U.S. military bases and infrastructure on the Japanese archipelago, in South Korea, Okinawa and Taiwan. Intense negotiations are taking place on re-establishing the US naval base in Subic Bay in the Philippines. It has been confirmed that the U.S. and Vietnam have begun informal talks on leasing the former U.S. military base in Cam Ranh.
    If you draw a line between all these states, you will see the first circle of the U.S. containment of China, which effectively prevents the country from being a maritime power. Today, the Chinese navy’s access to open water is controlled by Americans. However, there is also a second circle (based on Guam and Hawaii), as well as a third, reserve one, the base for which is California and Alaska.
    According to a source close to the White House, China is now clearly perceived by the American political establishment as the most important threat to U.S. interests in the long run, so Washington believes it is advisable to start to control China today.
    The United States is not going to control China alone. It is actively trying to recruit as many allies as possible. These can be divided into several groups. The first is composed of countries that are heavily dependent on the U.S.: Japan (in military terms, the country is more an American satellite rather than an ally), South Korea (which without military aid from Washington risks a showdown with North Korea), and Taiwan (an unrecognized state that remains de facto independent only with the support of the U.S.). Tokyo, Seoul and Taipei will support any initiatives from the White House directed against China.
    The situation is more complicated with other international actors. The United States, in trying to contain China, has set up a system allowing it to deprive the Chinese economy of energy commodities at any time. To implement this, it is important to shut the northern and southern transit routes, according to the abovementioned expert close to Barack Obama’s administration.
    source: America

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    Last edited by renzo_d10; April 28th, 2012 at 01:26 PM.

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    I don't the US will be interested with putting up a base here anymore. They are even drawing down their bases in Japan and movin and consolodating to Guam. They can't spend like they use to.

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    Yes!

    Gago kasi yung mga leftist. Lahat kinokontra. Nasan na sila ngayon?

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    Pero kapag nagkaron ng libreng kung anu-ano ang US dito sila pa mauuna sa pila.

    Oh the irony. :lol:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harangody View Post
    Yes!

    Gago kasi yung mga leftist. Lahat kinokontra. Nasan na sila ngayon?
    Bigyan mo ng US Visa. Malilimutan na nilang sumali sa makakaliwang gruo

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    Bakit pa sila magtatayo ng bases dito eh pwede naman balikatan na Lang Wala pa gastos

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    the philippines is for sale. some of it already belongs to the koreans. maybe the chinese from red china next. the country had been raped by everybody specially the corrupt philippine public officials. what a pity. the philippines probably had been at her best during the commonwealth period.

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    put the US base in all the spratly islands claimed by the philippines


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    Quote Originally Posted by miso_honi View Post
    the philippines is for sale. some of it already belongs to the koreans. maybe the chinese from red china next. the country had been raped by everybody specially the corrupt philippine public officials. what a pity. the philippines probably had been at her best during the commonwealth period.
    It'll be tons better if we had been like Hawaii or Guam. hehehe.

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    Hindi namin kailangan ang inyong Base Militar!!!

    kailngan namin ang inyong american citizenship........

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    ^ Too late. In the presidential elections of 1981, Bartolome Cabangbang of the Federalist Party campaigned for the Philippines to be the 51st state of the U.S. He lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Bakit pa sila magtatayo ng bases dito eh pwede naman balikatan na Lang Wala pa gastos
    yung balikatan is actually year-round, sinasabi lang na annual event ito.

    Quote Originally Posted by barako ba ma View Post
    germany, a very productive country and heavily industrialized, does not like the idea of the u.s. bases closing in their area. it is a give and take. the u.s. puts billions of dollars into the country every year for the use of some property they have. it employs thousands of locals, puts money into their local businesses and they only have to concentrate in producing for the gnp. they do not have the big need of spending for defense since the u.s. is already in the house. the u.s. in turn saves money and lives for having a staging point closer to the middle east conflict and closer to medical attention at the landstuhl medical center near ramstein air base. it is not all bad. our people blamed the u.s. for the abuse of women and prostitution. has it gone better or has it gone worse since the us. navy and the u.s. air force pulled out of the country? i guess no matter who, even the locals (filipinos) are frequent flyers of these establishments of horizontal ballet.
    this ^

    Quote Originally Posted by Jiggs View Post
    Am in favor ONLY if they would build their bases in Patikul Sulu or Tawi Tawi, or any other Island where there are lots of lawless elements. Not anywhere nearest civilizations.
    meron na sa Mindanao.

    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    I don't the US will be interested with putting up a base here anymore. They are even drawing down their bases in Japan and movin and consolodating to Guam. They can't spend like they use to.
    also, they moved out of Okinawa to Guam due to pressures from local community (rape issue).

    re-establish? it has been established since 2004...google up Cooperative Security Locations (CSL). nasa tabi-tabi nyo lang sila mga kapatid, hahaha. small but effective.

    ang balita ko, as the US slowly withdraw from the middle-east and down-size the military, US are focusing on small mobile quick response group...like the SPEC OPS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miso_honi View Post
    the philippines is for sale. some of it already belongs to the koreans. maybe the chinese from red china next. the country had been raped by everybody specially the corrupt philippine public officials. what a pity. the philippines probably had been at her best during the commonwealth period.



    she is no longer for sale. she will be taken by china for free this time. any bidders?

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    We dont need them americans, what we need is to be stronger, we have to spend more money on armaments. We need more planes, more guns, more tanks, more cannons, ballistic missiles more ships. To serve as deterrent. We must recruit more soldiers and train them well. We must hold annual military parades with our troops marching to the tune of Hell march in red alert at Luneta Grandstand


    Imagine the Philippine army and marines with our newly acquired mobile rocket launchers and endless columns of Leopard II Tanks and new F22 stealth fighters flying overhead!! We now can say **** China

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    ^ That will never happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    We dont need them americans, what we need is to be stronger, we have to spend more money on armaments. We need more planes, more guns, more tanks, more cannons, ballistic missiles more ships. To serve as deterrent. We must recruit more soldiers and train them well. We must hold annual military parades with our troops marching to the tune of Hell march in red alert at Luneta Grandstand


    Imagine the Philippine army and marines with our newly acquired mobile rocket launchers and endless columns of Leopard II Tanks and new F22 stealth fighters flying overhead!! We now can say **** China
    So where will you get the money?

    P5,000,000,000,000.00 and Utang ng Pilipinas now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    We dont need them americans, what we need is to be stronger, we have to spend more money on armaments. We need more planes, more guns, more tanks, more cannons, ballistic missiles more ships. To serve as deterrent. We must recruit more soldiers and train them well. We must hold annual military parades with our troops marching to the tune of Hell march in red alert at Luneta Grandstand


    Imagine the Philippine army and marines with our newly acquired mobile rocket launchers and endless columns of Leopard II Tanks and new F22 stealth fighters flying overhead!! We now can say **** China



    heheheheh. you wis. what are you smoking? stop daydreaming and smell the stench of truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by oliver1013 View Post
    We dont need them americans, what we need is to be stronger, we have to spend more money on armaments. We need more planes, more guns, more tanks, more cannons, ballistic missiles more ships. To serve as deterrent. We must recruit more soldiers and train them well. We must hold annual military parades with our troops marching to the tune of Hell march in red alert at Luneta Grandstand


    Imagine the Philippine army and marines with our newly acquired mobile rocket launchers and endless columns of Leopard II Tanks and new F22 stealth fighters flying overhead!! We now can say **** China

    remember in philippine history? this is not the time for dagohoy's revolt. aanhin ang tapang kung ang kalaban mas marami ang sandata?

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    Not a good idea, either for the USA or the PH.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Not a good idea, either for the USA or the PH.
    can you explain why?

    to me yes i want them to have a base here since our country can't defend itself. it doesn't have to be the USA we just need some one strong to have on our side so we won't be bullied by other countries so easily. the USA has bases all over the world on other countries and work out just fine, i can't understand why here in the philippines it's such a big issue.

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