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    #21
    i don't think na tatakbo si erap for any public office. just measuring kung pupwede ang anak nya. hehehe.

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    #22
    Quote Originally Posted by maykel View Post
    Sana naman natuto na talaga mga pinoy sa pag boto. Wag naman sana maging circus ang election sa 2010. Sa dami ng mga nauuto nila junggoy, malamang lumusot pa ito sa pagka panggulo

    maawa naman sila sa pilipinas
    actually bro iyan din ang plea ko.
    but unfortunately,
    sa palagay ko we are barking at the wrong tree!
    and our plea could never be heard.
    kasi karamihan sa boboto sa kanya ay yung nakakarami
    and that nakakarami ay di nagbababad dito sa tsikot.com.

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    #23
    from: www.inquirer.net

    Estrada eyes new Palace run
    ‘If there’s no common opposition candidate’

    By Norman Bordadora
    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    First Posted 01:35:00 12/30/2007


    MANILA, Philippines -- The political opposition is swelling with “presidentiables.”

    Now, even deposed President Joseph Estrada may yet run again for president should the opposition fail to come up with a common standard-bearer against whoever the Arroyo administration will field in 2010.

    “It depends. If the opposition fails to come to an agreement (on a common candidate),” Estrada said.

    Former Sen. Ernesto Maceda, a close Estrada ally and a leader of the United Opposition (UNO), said the first option for UNO is to unite the “five or six” presidential aspirants.

    They include Senate President Manuel Villar, Senators Panfilo Lacson, Loren Legarda and Francis Escudero, and Makati Mayor Jejomar Binay.

    Sen. Manuel Roxas II of the Liberal Party has also declared his intention to run for president. The LP, while not in the UNO coalition, is an ally of the opposition group.

    “The first option is to find a way to unite the five or six presidential aspirants ... It’s too early anyway,” Maceda said.

    “He [Estrada] did say that in a situation wherein all five will run, (Estrada himself running) is an option ... (It’s) a definite deduction that if he does run, all the five presidential aspirants will rally behind him,” said Maceda, one of UNO’s prime movers in the last senatorial elections.

    Maceda said he had talked to retired Supreme Court Chief Justice Artemio Panganiban and was told that the pardon given Estrada was absolute and unconditional.

    Does this mean Estrada can run again?

    “That’s the implication,” Maceda said.

    Romulo Macalintal, President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo’s legal counsel on election concerns, begged to differ.

    “He cannot run again, not because of the plunder case, but because under the Constitution, no person who had been elected president can run for reelection for the same position,” Macalintal said.

    He said Estrada could run for any other elective position -- barangay (village) captain, senator or vice president.

    Only through succession

    He said Estrada could still become president but only through succession.

    “If he runs for vice president and wins, and the president elected dies, he can be president through succession, not through election,” Macalintal said.

    He agreed with the observation that Ms Arroyo’s pardon of Estrada after he was convicted of plunder was unconditional.

    “Some people are saying that Erap may be brought back to prison because he would be violating the condition of his pardon by running. There’s nothing to violate because there’s no condition,” Macalintal said.

    Opposition split in ’04

    Reported to have declared that he could still run for president after being pardoned of his plunder conviction, Estrada said he didn’t want a repeat of the 2004 elections.

    “Fernando Poe won but his lead was far from overwhelming. That’s why he was cheated of his victory,” Estrada said, referring to his best friend and fellow actor who ran for president in 2004.

    Estrada noted that the anti-Arroyo votes were split because Lacson also ran for president and got three million votes. “If he did not run, the opposition would have won,” he said.

    Ms Arroyo was declared the winner of the 2004 presidential election, racking up a lead of about a million votes over her strongest rival, Poe.

    Other presidential candidates, Raul Roco and evangelist Bro. Eddie Villanueva, also ate into the anti-Arroyo votes.

    Estrada initially said that he had yet to make plans for running again for the top elective post.

    “Right now, I have no plans,” Estrada told the Philippine Daily Inquirer, parent company of INQUIRER.net.

    Asked if he would change his mind in the near future, he said it would depend on the opposition failing to field a standard-bearer.

    The Sandiganbayan pronounced Estrada guilty of plunder and sentenced him up to 40 years in prison on Sept. 12.

    He was convicted for his systematic collection of P545 million in illegal gambling payoffs and his receipt of a P189-million commission from stock market purchases using state pension funds.

    On Oct. 25, Ms Arroyo pardoned Estrada, saving him from life imprisonment.

    He was subjected to an impeachment trial in November 2000 and driven out of Malacañang by a people power uprising two months later.

    Supreme Court to decide

    Told of the constitutional ban on elected presidents running again for the office, Maceda said: “The Supreme Court will be the one that will decide that.”

    “And may I add that (retired) Chief Justice Panganiban told me that (the issue on the constitutional ban) can go either way. There are good arguments for both (sides),” he said.

    Estrada said the whereas clauses in his executive clemency, particularly the part in which the Arroyo administration recognized that he would no longer run for public office, were “not binding.”

    “Du’n sa dispositive portion nagkakatalo (It’s the dispositive portion that counts),” Estrada said.

    Estrada said Ms Arroyo herself failed to keep her word when she announced on Dec. 30, 2003, that she was not running in 2004.

    Trembling at the thought?

    “She even made the statement on Rizal Day. Still, she ran,” Estrada said.

    He said the dispositive portion of his pardon said that his political [and civil] rights were restored.

    “I have the right to vote and to be voted on,” Estrada said.

    “I voted in the barangay elections. Why didn’t they complain?” he said. “What’s all the fuss on my running again for president? Are they trembling at the thought?”

    Maceda said Estrada’s candidacy may only be questioned when he files his certificate of candidacy at the Commission on Elections (Comelec).

    He said the Comelec would first hear the protest against his candidacy and its decision is expected to be contested in the Supreme Court.

    Maceda said he expects such a case to take its normal course at the Comelec and the Supreme Court, and it would probably only be a few days from the elections before the Supreme Court could decide.

    SC to wait for poll results

    “I posed a question squarely to Chief Justice Panganiban. I asked him, ‘Will the Supreme Court decide the case (on Estrada’s running again for president) a few days before the elections?’” Maceda said.

    “He said the Supreme Court would not decide. They will just wait for the elections to finish,” the former senator said.

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    #24
    Ang magandang tanong dito eh kung kumandidato, iboboto mo pa ba?

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    #25
    Even if Erap is qualified or not, the fact is that we pinoys deserve another brand of new leadership. Give us a break ..

    Wala na bang ibang pinoy na pwedeng maging pangulo? Si Erap na lang ba palagi-well I know for the fact that he is popular. Pero nabigyan na yan ng pagkakataon pero iba naman ang pinagka abalahan.

    Let Erap prove his worth as a statesman (that is, if he is deserving to be called one) by giving the slot to a more deserving Juan dela Cruz who would serve other Juan dela Cruzes in this country and slowly retire in peace (hindi po yan RIP ).

    Pero wag po sana si Jinggoy! Peace!

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    #26
    voting for erap is like voting for trillanes.....

    you might as well carve "loser" into your forehead :bwahaha:

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    #27
    Kapag ibinoto mo si Erap and kapag nanalo...wala kang karapatan magreklamo kung bakit mahirap buhay mo.

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    #28

    Iyan ang sinasabi ng mga matatanda na "pupulutin kayo sa kangkungan"......

    5000:boom:

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    #29
    Erap and his minions are wasting the public's time and insulting our intelligence by peddling this idea that he can run again. The Constitution is very explicit that an ex-president cannot run again for the same office. The rare exception being what happened to GMA when, as VP, she succeeded Erap for the remainder of the latter's term. Wow. Even a 1st year law student knows this.

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    #30
    Naku... patay sila GMA and co. kug mananalo si Erap. Gantihan blues na ito. At baka bawiin niya ang dapat nyang kitain noong nasa posisyon pa siya.

    Wag na lang siyang tumakbo, for the sake of this country. Baka magpeople-power ulit at mauulit na naman itong kaguluhang ito. Bulsa na naman ang iniisip ng mga ito.

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