QC govt orders khaos for all its vehicles

[SDRIVE]

Hope na may scienctitic test kung ano ang effects sa engine, either good or bad, para ma clear natin....

[empy]

Originally posted by niky
Well, Americans buy into the intake vortex thing, the fuel tank catalyst thing, AND the electric supercharger... you'd be surprised what kind of idiocy US consumers are also capable of.

agreed. people here can be just as stupid as the people over there. plus, there's more of us

[niky]

And you support a thriving "fuel savers" industry... can we ship all these people over there? So they'll get so rich that they'll forget about the Philippines?

[DonCamote]

I'm a true skeptic of this Khaos thing but I'm not an automatic believer either of a PhD holder talking theories. What we need is somebody who has actually tested it? Anyone?

[Bogeyman]

Actually we've had at least two members who have had this tested (plus one dealer). It's already been discussed in another thread. In general, they've given the device some glowing reviews.

What we need is a fully-equipped, independent agency to have this device thoroughly tested for ALL five gas emissions, not just two, three, or four out of five.

But personally, my rule of thumb is: if the results are still achievable without shelling out a ridiculous amount of money, so much the better.

[ghosthunter]

Its seems that blu_gsr_98 gets about 13.27 km/L with his khaos equipted Mitsu Lancer GSR on the highway. (from his post in another website)

I did 12.8 km/L on the highway driving from manila to subic freeport (and some driving around while there). I was also cruising around 100 to 140 kph on the expressway. I could have marginally done better milage if I kept to 90kph max. I also wish I had my vacuum gauge installed by then. (Only got installed last week).

Fuel used: Shell Unleaded.
Car: '99 Toyota Corolla 1.6 a/t
Extra weight in car: me(overweight kasi), wife (definitely NOT overweight, hehehe!) and overnight stuff.

13.27 km/L vs 12.8 km/L = 3.67% difference

[niky]

So far, it's only blu_gsr_98 who seems to have reliable results regarding the effects of this... remember, another mitsu club member posted about mileage being somewhat better, but with a noticeable deterioration in performance.

Two members of Ford Club Philippines have complained that the device interfered with their MAF and caused really poor performance.

I've gone anywhere from 7km/l to 11.5 km/l in mixed cycle driving just by changing my driving style... I could get better, but I have a really itchy trigger foot. :D

[ghosthunter]

Originally posted by niky
So far, it's only blu_gsr_98 who seems to have reliable results regarding the effects of this...

maybe its something like the stick the "POWERED BY HONDA" sticker on your car and gain 10 hp effect?

was it measured by the state of the art seat-of-the-pants dyno?

[niky]

Originally posted by ghosthunter
maybe its something like the stick the "POWERED BY HONDA" sticker on your car and gain 10 hp effect?

was it measured by the state of the art seat-of-the-pants dyno?

LOL... you guys have that story, too?

AFAIK, it's the number of VTEC stickers that determine HP... but most people seem to agree, it's plus 10 hp per sticker.

[chokers]

alam niyo ba na may mga kilala dad ko telling him to buy it too..kaya sabi niya sakin kanikanina lang na baka bili daw sha.. cge.. kasi sha naman gastos.. kaso sa kotse ko ata ikakabit kasi 2.2 makina.. or sa expi.. hala.. cge kung matuloy man to ill tell u the results.. kasi wala talga ako magagawa kasi kung gusto niya no choice ako eh.. pero ok lang kaya or shud i force him not to do so..

[pissword]

sabihin mo sa father mo gawing test vehicle ng tsikot ang car na kakabitan to test kung ok nga ba ang device hehe

1 day lang naman ata gagawin yun eh

[hagiber]

make a printout of this thread and other related threads and show it to him :-)

[pissword]

pati nato

courtesy of sir the_wildthing

http://www.kotse.com/topics.php?acti...8257&forumid=1

[chokers]

haha try ko sha convince ... print tong thread? anghaba na eh.. ehehe.. pero sana kung bili sha car konalang lagyan.. kung masira man engine haha ayos.. H22a or f20b papapalit ko..hehe..

[squala]

Pwede kong volunteer car ko... palitan nyo nga lang ng Silvertop pag may nangyari.

[Karding]

Kailangan nyo ng tulong ng Media para malaman nila ang negative effects. Pwedeng subukan nyong i-cover ng ABS? Kse ABS lang ang nasa TFC.

Ang gagaling ng mga Tsikoteers, talagang Automotive enthusiasts!

ID THIS GUY JUST REWRITE THE LAWS OF CHEMISTRY? the biggest risk by far of a engine 'going lean' is the harmful nitrogen oxide emissions!! this is like saying i will get thinner if i eat a half gallon of ice cream every day!!

mmm....speaking of ice cream, does Magnolia still make the Double Dutch flavor?? mmmm....Double Dutch

Langya ka, I hope you had your last ice cream bago ka nag supplement,

[empy]

Originally posted by Karding
Langya ka, I hope you had your last ice cream bago ka nag supplement,

:bwahaha: tapos na ang mga araw ng pag-kain ng ice cream ko!!

[mazdamazda]

Originally posted by M54 Powered
:bwahaha: tapos na ang mga araw ng pag-kain ng ice cream ko!!

hay... sarap kumain ng ice-cream... kaysa mag gym... :D

[vixen]

well, I heard that Ford Makati is interested in buying the product or what could be more, to be the dealer. only that the contract is still pending.

Nissan and Toyota are interested too.

[niky]

Please read all the threads before saying anything.

Ford Makati and Nissan Gallery are not "Ford" and "Nissan" per se, they are owned by a franchiser/dealer, and as such are NOT authorized to sell the khaos in the name of the said companies. Ford Makati is already advertising the khaos, but this may be stopped as it is against the policy of any major automotive manufacturer to sell a device that would interfere with the mechanical workings of the vehicle and as such, void the warranty.

Furthermore (please see thread on letter from Nissan Motors regarding sale of fuel-saving devices), Nissan has already stated that as this device has not been tested by Nissan Motor Corporation per se, and only the dealer, they cannot condone the sale of said device and are issuing a memorandum to all dealers.