QC govt orders khaos for all its vehicles

[vince168]

is there a write-up or a thread here about the bad effects of this device that i can read to learn more about it. you can just post the link.

:D

[OTEP]

Someone in City Hall must be smoking pot.

[mikaztro]

Hold your horses. Lets see what Khaos can really do. But come to think of it...a Suzuki Mulitcab has a very efficient engine. Hmmmmmmmmm....

[niky]

Originally posted by niky
1.5 liters in the tank.
6 kilometers.
30% used.
0.45 liters consumed.
6/0.45 = 13.33 km/l

Which is about what you should get with a Multi-Cab regardless.

I love quoting myself.

13.33 km/l for a 600cc engine is not groundbreaking... Hell, I could do that with my 2.0 given a good stretch.

[wulf]

demn!just came from nissan q.ave yesterday to get my pre-owned exalta & guess what greeted me there?a banner of d khaos!the dealer is now carrying it & it doesn't void the warranty daw!its 7500 w/ them & lifetime warranty...tsk...tsk...d agent tried to sell me one...buti na lang medyo car-savvy na ko tnx to the tsikot gurus :D

[ghosthunter]

Originally posted by vince168
is there a write-up or a thread here about the bad effects of this device that i can read to learn more about it. you can just post the link.

:D

Here's the other thread:

Gas Saving Device thread

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slightly off-topic...

I have not recieved the email from the dealer of khaos regarding the "supporting documents" to prove how the device works.

[luckytruck]

the tech-savvy people of tsikot sould get in toch with the DENR. They are the lead agency in the implementation of the clean air act. They can easily overturn any misguided effort by any government agency to save money at the expense of the government.

as an implementing agency, malakas ang power ng DENR.

andy

[the_wildthing]

Sino po bang puwedeng sulatan para ipa-alam ang ating mga haka-haka tungkol sa kagamitang ito?

Preferably someone in the QC gov't, and the media.

Don't get me wrong, we're not condemning this device. Our point is that we need more tests - controlled and scientific! Not just one or two for publicity.

[mazdamazda]

yup... a more scientific approach...

as what Auto_Xer mentioned we need a 5-gas analyzer device for this.

[niky]

This is from til, at www.nissanbayan.com

this is from another forum where i posted this originally a day after the DENR tested the KHAOS

first hand experience with the Khaos...

i just came this afternoon from DENR where this particular product was launched complete with MEDIA coverage. Besides from the gas analyzer that San Jose Builders (the ones marketing the product)...we brought along our own gas analyzer from our testing center.

vehicle tested was a circa 89-91 galant service vehicle of DENR. TESTED the car BEFORE and AFTER the device named Khaos was attached...

EMISSION results...NOTHING CHANGED...in fact...HC(hyrdocarbon) went up a few notches. so in order to save face(KHAOS guys)...they cranked up the idling to a whooping 1400rpm just so that the media who were focused on the test machine results would go down...WHAT THE F*##...is all i could say to myself. the whole emission test was a JOKE...and i was so dissappointed.

FUEL ECONOMY...no actual test was done...but i guess it should save on gas since the tech that installed the device adjusted the air-fuel valve while he was attaching it.

how it works...well...besides its incredible claims...the KHAOS seems to be nothing but a REHASHED PCV(positive crankcase valve)

alam ni bluestar yan...nagdeliver siya ng tubig just before i went there.

Sad to see that marketing decisions are not made by engineers, but by salesmen. Letter writing campaign, people!!!

[ghosthunter]

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[luckytruck]

naku, dapat ang mga taga-QC mag-demonstration na sa harap ng city hall

andy

[pissword]

hahahaha sinu na naman kaya ang kumita

[empy]

haha...i'm late to this topic of conversation but i posted in the thread that ghosthunter linked.

elected officials really should do more due diligence before they act so rashly. i know that this mayor is probably working the "i support the selfless heroic local inventor" political angle...too bad he'll be more known as "the idiot who got scammed out of the taxpayer's money".

this Planas guy is a joke. in the article that hagiber posted above, he is quoted as claiming that his invention will reduce nitrogen oxide emissions.

DID THIS GUY JUST REWRITE THE LAWS OF CHEMISTRY? the biggest risk by far of a engine 'going lean' is the harmful nitrogen oxide emissions!! this is like saying i will get thinner if i eat a half gallon of ice cream every day!!

mmm....speaking of ice cream, does Magnolia still make the Double Dutch flavor?? mmmm....Double Dutch

[pissword]

OT: sir m54 power, masmasarap na ata ang selecta ngayon, at yes may double dutch pa ata

[yebo]

di na lang ako magbabayad ng residence tax ko sa quezon city.

sa probinsya na lang ako magbabayad. at least dun hindi mapupunta kay planas ang pera ko.

[Stuckinstock]

taht item should be named KHA(P)OS... kukulangin sa gasolina mixture mo eh.. hehehe

sir yebo, what if bigla mo malaman pati mga traktora sa probinsya niyo eh lalagyan na rin ng khapos ni planas? hehehe

let me see him try selling it to BF in marikina... hahahaha



M54, yes, there are still double dutch ice cream from magnolia. Selecta has one too. but I'm still all for Arce ice creams.

[ghosthunter]

He noted that efficient combustion can prolong the lifespan of a car’s engine, spark plugs, muffler and engine oil.

A lean burning engine creates much more NOx due to higher cylinder combustion temperatures.

NOx with water vapour (from oxygen and gasoline combustion) will form small amounts nitric acid. Some can condense in the exhaust system causing premature corrosion of the pipes and muffler.

A lean burning engine also burns hotter and its possible to overheat the sparkplug causing it to wear out faster.

A hotter engine will also degrade your regular motor oil much faster than normal

A hotter burning engine can also cause an older (with marginal radiator/fan performance) engine to overheat.

A lean burning engine can experience "knocking", "detonation" and "pinging" if it was fed with low octane fuel. This can cause major engine damage to the piston head, cylinder walls, valves, etc.

So I wonder how can this device prolong the life of an engine?

[benchph1]

i agree with all of you. tsk tsk

even the name for that device is a joke. "super-turbo charger"? do they know whats a turbo as well as a supercharger.

and they want to sell it on the US. well they better prepare to be humiliated :bwahaha:

[niky]

Well, Americans buy into the intake vortex thing, the fuel tank catalyst thing, AND the electric supercharger... you'd be surprised what kind of idiocy US consumers are also capable of.