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    Congress proposes NO TIN, NO VOTE policy

    What do you think?

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    a stupid proposal. this will alienate more the social gaps that the country has. and besides, maski may TIN ang isang tao will not guarantee a wise vote (i know lots of people who did this...). it will also remove the constitutional guarantee of every filipino the right to suffrage.

    what they should do are of follows:

    a) improve votel literacy... i don't know how this could be done.
    b) strengthen qualifications for people running in public office.
    c) pass the anti-dynasty law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1D4LV View Post
    a stupid proposal. this will alienate more the social gaps that the country has. and besides, maski may TIN ang isang tao will not guarantee a wise vote (i know lots of people who did this...). it will also remove the constitutional guarantee of every filipino the right to suffrage.

    what they should do are of follows:

    a) improve votel literacy... i don't know how this could be done.
    b) strengthen qualifications for people running in public office.
    c) pass the anti-dynasty law
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    Doing B and C will be nice, unfortunately, a snowball has a better chance in hell than passing an anti-dyansty law in the PH because of self-interest of a lot of political families.

    Voter literacy? I don't know if that'll do much. What we need is voter maturity so that people will realize that elections are not about popularity and entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Doing B and C will be nice, unfortunately, a snowball has a better chance in hell than passing an anti-dyansty law in the PH because of self-interest of a lot of political families.

    Voter literacy? I don't know if that'll do much. What we need is voter maturity so that people will realize that elections are not about popularity and entertainment.
    The way I read it bro,- what you are trying to tell us is that - "These options are hopeless"?.....

    So, we should look for other means to solve this election enigma....

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    Quote Originally Posted by CVT View Post


    The way I read it bro,- what you are trying to tell us is that - "These options are hopeless"?.....

    So, we should look for other means to solve this election enigma....

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    Hindi naman hopeless, bro.

    I just wish the SC would take a more proactive stance on the interpretation of the Constitutional prohibition on political dynasties since Congress will not pass such a law. Voter maturity, especially in the provinces will take time considering how Pinoys have the unfortunate habit of approaching politicos for money or jobs. They need to know that it's not the function of Congressmen, Councilmen, Mayors, etc. to dole out cash and employ them for jobs they most likely are not qualified for anyway.

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    Then QC Mayor Mel Mathay tried that before. Struck down by the court because it goes against the constitution gurrantee of right to sufferage...

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    no income no vote? gat andres bonifacio and half of those who were martyred with him, if alive today, can not vote?

    it won't fly, unconstitutional.

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    Hindi gagawin ng mga pulitiko ang vote literacy kasi pwede itong maging against sa kanila. Tsaka the more ang mga eng eng na voters, the more silang madaming mauuto para makuha ang boto. Ang dapat nilang gawin, ay gawin nila ang mga pinangako nila during the campaign period para iboto ulit sila ng tao at makahakot pa ng ibang botante.

    Tsaka dapat hindi no TIN no vote. Madali lang kumuha ng TIN eh tsaka unconstitutional yun proposal.

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    Yung mga walang tin ay indirect taxpayers din naman. Pag bumibili ng alak ang squatters, nagbabayad din sila ng sin tax.

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    As part of the workforce that has no choice but to have my taxes withheld every payday, part of me sympathizes with this proposal. Having a TIN means you are a registered taxpayer and you intend to be part of the tax base that will form part of government revenues. Which means if you are required to psy taxes then you can do your share in helping government get the needed funds to run the country.



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    I support this proposal together with the anti-dynasty bill..

    Kung taxpayers ang nagpapasweldo sa mga politicians dapat taxpayers din lang may karapatan bumoto sa kanila at di kung sino sino :D. hehehe

    Let the lawyers/lawmakers/SC decide on the constitutionality of the proposal.

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    tama naman tong proposal na to, bakit? dahil lahat ng citizens na 18 yrs old and above ay required by law na may TIN number. hindi purki mahirap o walang trabaho eh hindi na dapat kumuha ng TIN. Diba covered dapat to ng EO 98 ni Erap dati? (http://www.mgb.gov.ph/Files/Policies/EO%2098.pdf)

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    ikaw na tax payer, katangap tangap ba sayo na ung pinaghirapan mong salapi (income tax) ay kinukuha sa iyo ng gobyerno ng sapilitan at ipinamimigay lang sa mga iba bilang PANTAWID PAMILYA


    As of 31 March 2013 the Pantawid Pamilya is being implemented in 143 cities and 1,484 municipalities in 79
    provinces where a total of 3,967,517 households are enrolled as of date exceeding the target of 3,809,769 for
    2013.

    Table 4: Distribution of Cash Grants per Payment Mode
    First Period of 2013 (January - March 2013) Php 6,908,317,600.00

    http://pantawid.dswd.gov.ph/images/a...r_2013.pdf.pdf


    tapos sa panahon ng halalahan pupunta ang mga pulitiko sa mga grupong ito at ipapangako ang mas maraming benepisyo basta wag lang sha kalimutan sa darating na halalan.


    paano naman ung nakaltasan ng income tax at hindi maramdamn ang tulong ng gobyerno sa pamilya nya.

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    ung may ITR na lang ang pde bumoto , TIN is useless kahit wala kang work pde ka kumuha ng TIN

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