PCSO names bishops who got cars under GMA

[Gumusut_Amige]

If the bishops need vehicles fr their missionary works, then why didn't they course their request to the CBCP ? Let the council do the work for the procurement of the said vehicles, at least there's no controversies that will arise out of it. Now that they were exposed, they are crying out that they are being singled out ........ they should be responsible for their actions and face the music if they have committed a mistake in judgement.

I wonder what Bishop de Dios will deliver in his privilege speech in the senate this week ? Obviously to wash his hands off any liabilities as what Pilate did to Jesus.

guess he's a part of the the damage control team?
but... so far no word discharged from CBCP that pajero Bishops deed is aligned to their teaching?
saying that they're wrong will not serve as their saving grace, but would ease up a bit the wrath of the people.
pwede ba silang mangumpisal sa kanilang sarili sa ganitong pagkakataon?

[Altis6453]

Wow. Took this long for the CBCP to figure out that what the Pajero 7 did was wrong:

CBCP says sorry for 'PCSO pork' controversy
abs-cbnNEWS.com
Posted at 07/11/2011 11:59 AM | Updated as of 07/11/2011 11:59 AM
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MANILA, Philippines - The Catholic Bishops' Conference of the Philippines (CBCP) apologized to the public on Monday after 7 bishops were accused of accepting luxury vehicles and large donations from the Philippine government during the Arroyo administration.

In a statement issued by outgoing CBCP President Nereo Odchimar, the CBCP urged the public to go slow in judgment especially since the bishops accepted the vehicles and financial aid with the public good in mind.

"There is no doubt that everywhere in the Church, there is great sorrow. We, your pastors, are one with you as shepherds struggling to love you like Jesus, the Good Shepherd. We are sorry for the pain and sadness that these events have brought upon you. We are saddened that many of you, especially the poor, the youth, our basic ecclesial communities, have been confused by the apparent inconsistency of our actions with our pastoral preaching," the statement read.

"As we express our sadness we also ask you to be slow in judgment and conscientiously seek the whole truth behind the controversy," it added.

The CBCP noted that the Mother Church has been deeply wounded by the controversy that erupted in the past 2 weeks. It added some Church members believe in the innocence of the bishops while others do not.

Critics have said former President Arroyo used the donations to curry favor from the Catholic Church after she was accused of massive vote fraud and other corruption scandals.

In its statement, the CBCP said the bishops concerned are ready to accept responsibility and face the consequences for their actions "if they are proven unlawful, anomalous and unconstitutional."

It noted that the acceptance of donations and vehicles from the Philippine Charity Sweepstakes Office were done "without malice out of their sincere desire to help people."

The CBCP acknowledged that the bishops "failed to see the pitfalls these grants would lead them."

Finally, it said the CBCP is ready to do everything necessary "to heal this wound so we can all move forward in hope," and that collaborations with government bodies for the purpose of helping the poor will be re-examined so that the highest ethical standards are observed.

If the apology is sincere, it should be without reservations or distortions of the truth.

While admitting to the impropriety of the acts of their fellow bishops, they still cling to the poor excuse that it was "out of the sincere desire to help people".

Also, Odchimar would do well to advise his brother clerics to be just as "slow in judgment" the next time they take to the pulpit and shriek to the high heavens about politics and governance.

[desert fox]

Nasaan na ba si Ka eli? si Soriano? Eddie Villanueva? Velarde? Nur Misuari?

gusto ko na magchange course...doon na ako sa tamang daan...

mga sun and the beachops na mga yan...wala silang pinagkaiba sa mafia...

[chua_riwap]

Sana may taga-CBCP na tsikot member para mabasa din mga post dito, tutal may mga nice rides naman pala sila!

meron...si bishop Old Blue.
kaso na ban na, sa dami ng kotse, 8.

[explorer]

sarap batukan etong si Pueblo...

from: Mitsubishi Montero registered under Bishop Pueblos' name

[SIZE="4"]Mitsubishi Montero registered under Bishop Pueblos' name[/SIZE]

by Rodge Cultura, ABS-CBN Butuan
Posted at 07/12/2011 2:41 AM | Updated as of 07/12/2011 2:41 AM

MANILA, Philippines - The Land Transportation Office (LTO) office in CARAGA region confirmed that the silver Mitsubishi Montero Sport of Butuan Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos is registered in his name.

Based on the LTO's records, the luxury Sport Utility Vehicle (SUV) was registered under Pueblos' name last September 22, 2009 during the incumbency of then-President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.

This was over 2 months after PCSO released P1.7 million on July 9, 2009 to the Diocese of Butuan.

"Ang sa amin lang beni-verify lang namin...kung anumang information ang lumabas, yun na yun," said Atty. Alim Pangandaman, director of the Department of Transportation and Communication in CARAGA.

ABS-CBN saw the 2009 Mitsubishi Montero Sport parked at the garage of the Bishop's Palace on Sunday.

Pueblos had asked Mrs. Arroyo for funds to buy him a new vehicle as a birthday gift in exchange for his support for her administration.

The Catholic Bishops' Conference of the Philippines on Monday apologized to the public for the PCSO controversy.

[Altis6453]

sarap batukan etong si Pueblo...

from: Mitsubishi Montero registered under Bishop Pueblos' name

Strangely, the CBCP insists that these SUVs were for the "good of the public". Talaga naman.

[myk384]

Sana naman matanggal ang mga bishops sa kanilang responsibility of this scandal. Suggestion to CBCP

[Ry_Tower]

Strangely, the CBCP insists that these SUVs were for the "good of the public". Talaga naman.

Ok lang naman kasi matanda na sila and they need good means of transpo to reach their constituents kaso hinihingi nila eh tapos kay pandak pa na alam na ng kahit sinong matinong tao na ang dami na kalukuhang ginagawa! Irony of their callous conscience na ata yan.

[myk384]

Ok lang naman kasi matanda na sila and they need good means of transpo to reach their constituents kaso hinihingi nila eh tapos kay pandak pa na alam na ng kahit sinong matinong tao na ang dami na kalukuhang ginagawa! Irony of their callous conscience na ata yan.

Dapat di na nagpauto si Pandak

[shadow]

kung kailangan talaga nila ng mga service vehicles, humingi sila sa central office nila, wala na nga silang mga taxes eh.

saka ang kapal ng mukha nila! batikos sila ng batikos sa gov't eh nakikinabang din pala sila. mga hayup! plastik!

pero the church has the history of sweeping under the carpet yun mga allegation hurled against them, kung yun mga *** offenders na priest eh deadma lang sila recently lang nag sorry yun Pope. for the longest time they just kept their silence.

sabi sila ng sabi sa media na willing sila ibalik, kung sasabihin daw ng PCSO eh bakit intayin pa nila bawiin sa kanila? isoli na nila ng kusa. magpapaawa lang mga yan bukas sa Senate hearing, sasabihin nila bukas willing sila ibalik, huwag sila puro salita, gawin na nila. kukuha lang ng public sympathy mga yan bukas, marami pa rin kasing mga tanagang naniniwala sa kanila

[Ry_Tower]

kung kailangan talaga nila ng mga service vehicles, humingi sila sa central office nila, wala na nga silang mga taxes eh.

saka ang kapal ng mukha nila! batikos sila ng batikos sa gov't eh nakikinabang din pala sila. mga hayup! plastik!

pero the church has the history of sweeping under the carpet yun mga allegation hurled against them, kung yun mga *** offenders na priest eh deadma lang sila recently lang nag sorry yun Pope. for the longest time they just kept their silence.

sabi sila ng sabi sa media na willing sila ibalik, kung sasabihin daw ng PCSO eh bakit intayin pa nila bawiin sa kanila? isoli na nila ng kusa. magpapaawa lang mga yan bukas sa Senate hearing, sasabihin nila bukas willing sila ibalik, huwag sila puro salita, gawin na nila. kukuha lang ng public sympathy mga yan bukas, marami pa rin kasing mga tanagang naniniwala sa kanila

Ibalik na kasi tapos mag-sorry.

[Wh1stl3r]

From PDI:
There’s The Rub
Holy see
By: Conrado de Quiros
Philippine Daily Inquirer

Butuan Bishop Juan de Dios Pueblos says he welcomes the chance of going to the Senate to clear his name. In fact he wants to deliver a privilege speech there. He won’t educate the senators, he quips, he’ll convert them.
Well, he has already had too many privileges in life for anyone to wish to grant him another, even if that is only the privilege of words. As to converting the senators, to what? To the Dark Side? Too late in the case of some of them.
De Dios Pueblos really has nothing to say that he hasn’t already said in his letter to Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo in 2009, and said quite sublimely. That letter is a classic in the art of solicitation. It begins by invoking God. God has been pleased to see him live to his 66th birthday, God has been pleased with his work, God would like him to continue that work by having his benefactor on earth, well, give him a nice car on his birthday.
“It is in this view that I am asking a favor from Your Excellency. At present, I really need a brand-new car, possibly a 4 x 4, which I can use to reach the far-flung areas of Caraga. I hope you will never fail to give a brand new car which would serve as your birthday gift to me. For your information, I have with me a 7-year-old car which is not anymore in good running condition. Therefore, this needs to be replaced very soon.”
He ends by saying: “Be assured of my constant support.”
Some people are truly mga anak ng Diyos. On their birthdays, other bishops get only a card, De Dios Pueblos gets a car. What a difference a “d” makes.
What can De Dios Pueblos possibly add to that? The only thing I myself can add to it is to wonder how anyone, however he is someone whose thoughts constantly turn to heaven, can possibly run a car to the ground in seven years. I have an 11-year-old car and though I am not the most scrupulous maintainer of vehicles, I am happy to report that I can still carry out my journalistic work with it. Even taxis last longer.
Of course the roads of Caraga are nowhere like those of Metro Manila, but we only have his word that he takes his gifts to places that guarantee this astonishing rate of obsolescence. Had Arroyo lasted longer, which was her intention with the constant support of bishops like De Dios Pueblos, the PCSO would be supplying him with another brand new 4×4 in 2016 to do God’s work.
It’s a wonder no lightning bolt has yet streaked from the sky to register God’s objections to being dragged into this sordid business.
But Mercedes Tuason, ambassador to the Holy See, sees only unholy thoughts in all this. “What I feel bad about is that they are attacking the bishops, saying many things without solid proof,” she said. “I’m sure whenever they get money from PCSO, they give it to the poor.”
What can one say? Tuason gives whole new meanings to her work. For her, being ambassador to the Holy See means to see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil. De Dios Pueblos’ letter is not solid proof? Bishop Martin Jumoad’s Mitsubishi Strada is not solid proof? The various SUVs and other gratuities given to Arroyo’s favorite bishops are not solid proof?
What takes the cake is that all this is being justified not just in the name of God but in the name of the poor. Tuason is certain that whatever the bishops got, they used for the poor, a certainty we take it that comes from her proximity to infallibility. That is one holy seeing, though I doubt it originates from tongues of fire. I doubt many faithful will find the concept of bishops soliciting SUVs to serve the poor as a sign that God works in mysterious ways. I suspect most will just find it hilarious—and have problems remaining faithful.
In fact what it reminds me of is that poster Imelda Marcos had during her time, the one on malnutrition. The poster featured a grimy and emaciated kid in the background and Imelda in all her bauble-d glory in the foreground. The idea was to show that the First Lady would take the lead in plucking the poor from the jaws of hunger. But what came across was another message entirely: The opulence of the one was the cause, the misery of the other was the effect. The posters did not grace the walls and electrical posts of the city for very long.
It’s the same thing here. The SUVs of the bishops are the cause, the poverty of their flock is the effect.
But in the end, what’s truly sad, to borrow Tuason’s understatement of the decade, is not that the bishops are being attacked but that Arroyo’s bishops are attacking their very calling and subverting the standing of the true shepherds among them. Their existence is a slap on the face of the great bishops of the past and present, who lived and are living up to being princes of the Church not by wearing princely raiment but by displaying kingly hearts. Bishops like Francisco Claver of Mountain Province, Antonio Fortich of Bacolod, Sergio Utleg of Tuguegarao, Manuel Purruganan of Isabela, Antonio Ledesma of Cagayan de Oro, and Julio Labayen of Infanta.
They were/are the ones who have walked with the lowest of the low, who have broken bread with the wretchedest of the wretched, who have given everything of themselves to serve the last, the least and the lost. They were/are the ones who have fought tyranny and built churches of the poor, by the poor and for the poor. They have never needed a Strada or a Montero to straddle the world like a colossus, they needed only the strength of their convictions to cleanse the temple of the merchants.
They are the ones whose memory or living work Arroyo’s bishops spit on by having the gall to suggest they solicited princely cars to succor paupers. As does the ambassador to the Holy See when she attempts to sanctify it. That’s not holy see.
That’s holy sheesh.

Mercedes Tuason reasoning fail. And to the bishops I say, don't just apologize, return the cars if you're serious. I'd like the senate to make these bishops elaborate on what constitutes "constant support". I believe this is the bigger underlying issue. Who knows what damage their "constant support" on politicians can do to affect decisions on important issues.

[Altis6453]

kung kailangan talaga nila ng mga service vehicles, humingi sila sa central office nila, wala na nga silang mga taxes eh.

saka ang kapal ng mukha nila! batikos sila ng batikos sa gov't eh nakikinabang din pala sila. mga hayup! plastik!

pero the church has the history of sweeping under the carpet yun mga allegation hurled against them, kung yun mga *** offenders na priest eh deadma lang sila recently lang nag sorry yun Pope. for the longest time they just kept their silence.

sabi sila ng sabi sa media na willing sila ibalik, kung sasabihin daw ng PCSO eh bakit intayin pa nila bawiin sa kanila? isoli na nila ng kusa. magpapaawa lang mga yan bukas sa Senate hearing, sasabihin nila bukas willing sila ibalik, huwag sila puro salita, gawin na nila. kukuha lang ng public sympathy mga yan bukas, marami pa rin kasing mga tanagang naniniwala sa kanila

Just goes to show that these bishops (most especially the Pajero 7), are not infallible.

I would suggest that the PCSO and other government institutions who've donated and are continuing to donate to charitable institutions, including the RCC make public the amounts they've given, to whom and for what purpose. That way, those whose actions are inconsistent with their "pastoral preaching" would be held accountable by the people they preach to.

The credibility once possessed by Bishop De Dios Pueblos, Bishop Beltran, Bishop Jaucian, Bishop Quevedo, Bishop Valles, Bishop Jumoad and Bishop Salgado is now irreversibly tainted and with it, everything they say about politics.

[CVT]

^^^ NxB! - Knight takes Bishop(s).....

13.7:faint:

[Zeus]

Bukas na ang showdown nina Pueblos et al vs The Senators

[Altis6453]

Bukas na ang showdown nina Pueblos et al vs The Senators

I don't expect any fireworks. Except if that self-righteous pr!ck De Dios Pueblos starts giving a privilege speech about charity and good intentions. Parang sila lang ang merong monopoly nun, e.

[marg]

Tax those holy Sons of Bitches. They enjoy the the use of streets, police security, fire protection etc. and do not pay a single centavo.

FAT LEECHES!!

[chua_riwap]

Bukas na ang showdown nina Pueblos et al vs The Senators

bwishop (bwisit na bishop ) pueblos....may the guidance of the lord be w/ you tomorrow........:pope::pope:

[chua_riwap]

Bukas na ang showdown nina Pueblos et al vs The Senators

bwishop (bwisit na bishop ) pueblos....may the guidance of the lord be w/ you tomorrow........:pope::pope:

[donbuggy]

Maybe these bishops believe in the Prosperity Gospel.