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  1. Join Date
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    ...and the majority of Filipino voters are happy to vote for Bong Bong Marcos

    from: www.inquirer.net

    [SIZE="3"]PCGG chief: Imelda placed Marcos wealth at $1 trillion[/SIZE]

    By Tarra Quismundo
    Philippine Daily Inquirer
    First Posted 20:42:00 05/03/2010


    MANILA, Philippines -- It's the kind of fantastic wealth that could run the Philippines for almost 40 years or pay off its foreign debt 18 times.

    While dodging criticism for “exploring” a settlement with the family of the late strongman Ferdinand Marcos, Presidential Commission on Good Government (PCGG) Commissioner Ricardo Abcede claimed on Monday that the dictator's widow Imelda confessed to keeping $1 trillion in an account in New York.

    Abcede said this twice in interviews over ABS-CBN's dzMM radio and ANC on Monday, as he defended his decision to pursue a settlement with the Marcoses to recover some P140 billion in ill-gotten wealth, instead of giving due course to more than 500 court cases against the Marcoses and cronies.

    Imelda Marcos, now running for Congress in the family's native Ilocos Norte, allegedly shared this over dinner with Abcede.

    “How much really is their wealth? During our dinner, I said “Ma’am this is what the people are asking.”

    "Without blinking...," she told me, “Commissioner Abcede, in Citibank New York alone, the Marcoses have $1 trillion,” Abcede told ANC news anchor Tony Velasquez in a live interview.

    “Now do we believe her or not? I don't know. Because on the one hand, she's saying she just depends on the charity of others, but here, it's fabulous wealth,” said Abcede.

    The Philippine Daily Inquirer tried to call Abcede several times on Monday, but the commissioner could not be reached. Marcos' children Bongbong and Imee also could not be reached by phone.

    Lawyer Frank Chavez, solicitor general at the time the PCGG was created during the Aquino administration, however said such figure was just imagination.

    “It exists only in her (Imelda Marcos') mind,” said Chavez.

    He said the ill-gotten Marcos wealth could not have reached a trillion dollars as their last estimate in December 1991 placed the total Marcos assets at $10 billion kept in several Swiss accounts. This amount could have doubled overtime through interest.

    The Marcoses still face criminal and civil cases for allegedly amassing wealth through stealing from the country's coffers until the dictator was ousted through a peaceful revolt in 1986.

    In response to a petition Chavez filed, the Supreme Court had nullified a 1993 secret deal where the PCGG agreed to drop cases and grant tax exemption to the Marcoses given a 75-25 split of the family's Swiss deposits.

    Abcede again justified his move to arrange a settlement saying “this will be good for the country and for our people.” He said a deal would lead to “less anxiety, no sleepless nights.”

    “If revenge is in your heart, nothing will happen. You have to move on,” he told ANC.

    He scoffed at reports calling talks with the Marcos side a “midnight deal” as he clarified that reaching a settlement would take a long process and discussed at several levels: the commission en banc, the Office of the Solicitor General, the Department of Justice and then the Office of the President.

    Chavez said equating the pursuit of cases against the Marcoses to revenge was a twisted way of looking at litigation.

    “It is a distorted way of looking at it. He has thrown [the mission of the PCGG] to the dustbin. This is a betrayal of the raison d'etre of the the PCGG. Litigation is not about revenge. It is about justice,” he said.

    Abcede also cleared President Macapagal Arroyo of any role in his actions, saying seeking settlements was part of the PCGG's mandate. He explained that the PCGG had the “duty to find ways of settling cases instead of pursuing them in court.”

    “I don't need her (Ms Arroyo's) sanction. Nakikipagkwentuhan lang naman ako eh. Aabalahin ko pa ba si Presidente (I just swap stories. Do I need to bother the President)?,” he said.

    Abcede earlier expressed confidence that a deal could be reached before the end of Ms Arroyo's presidency, also the end of his stay at the PCGG, or during the term of the next President.

    But because “hope springs eternal” for Abcede, he believes this could still happen by some miracle.

    “On my own I can't [do this]. Well, unless a miracle happens. If the Marcoses suddenly say ‘we are willing to donate all of our wealth maybe here or outside [of the country] for the good of the Filipino people,’” he said.

    But for Chavez, the PCGG Commissioner has to get reacquainted with what the commission was meant to do.

    “He does not know what they’re talking about. He's the one seeking them (Marcoses) out. Where is the integrity in that? It seems like the PCGG was already captured by the Marcoses,” he said.
    Last edited by explorer; May 3rd, 2010 at 11:59 PM.

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    Exaggerated. The Philippine economy is not even $1T big (moreso yung panahon ni Marcos syempre inflation mas wala ng halaga pera ngayon kaysa time nila) so maskin nakawin nya lahat ng economy sa Pilipinas kulang pa din! Also, di ibig sabihin Imelda is richer than Bill Gates, Buffet, Carlos Slim and pretty much the top 20 riches people in the world combined?

    ONE BILLION baka maniwala pa ako... Pero TRILLION DOLLARS??? No way!

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    ya

    the pcgg commissioner doesnt know what he's talking about

    when people talk about large sums of money... $1B, $10B, $500B, $1T... they tend to lose perspective

    the size of the Phil. economy is only around $160B (2009)

    China's economy is around $4.9T

    Japan's economy is around $5T

    the US economy is around $14T

    there is no way the Marcoses can accumulate $1T

    $1B possible pa

    right now, no person on earth has $1T

    NONE

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    to put things into perspective, the US Treasury had to ask Congress for $700B in 2008 to bail out US banks
    Last edited by uls; May 4th, 2010 at 01:35 AM.

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    Noong una naniwala pa ako (uto-uto agad).. Nung nag comment na sila sir tidus at sir uls naisip ko oo nga naman.. :rofl:

    And to think na 1 trillion is composed of 999 billion +++.. Sobrang laking pera non, it's impossible talaga..

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    1 trillion dollars --> $1,000,000,000,000

    that's $999,999,999,999 + $1

    baka may mag question sa credibility ko

    mas credible naman ang isang PCGG commissioner diba?

    well, i don't care

    he's wrong

    i'm damn sure he's wrong

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    JPMorgan, one of the biggest banks in the world, has $2T in assets

    wiki:
    JPMorgan Chase & Co. is one of the oldest financial services firms in the world. It has operations in 60 countries. It is a leader in financial services with assets of $2 trillion, and the largest market capitalization[1] and third largest deposit base U.S. banking institution behind Wells Fargo and Bank of America.
    if Imelda has $1T, she's half the size of JPMorgan
    Last edited by uls; May 4th, 2010 at 01:50 AM.

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    haha ridiculous idea. . .in order for the marcoses to amass $1T, they had to pocket in $50B annually from year 1 of their regime. . .it was not possible

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    Has anyone considered the value of the supposed (legendary) treasures they unearthed here?...

    9707:electricf:
    Last edited by CVT; May 4th, 2010 at 08:25 AM.

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    Where there's smoke, there's flame.

    Kahit hindi umabot ng $1T yung pera nila - some decent wealth management or just having sit in their bank accounts earning interest will surely generate more money in the 30 years it's been hidden than some people will see in their lifetimes.

    And napayagang mag run yung mga kamag-anak nito?


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    from the article above:
    "Without blinking...," she told me, “Commissioner Abcede, in Citibank New York alone, the Marcoses have $1 trillion,” Abcede told ANC news anchor Tony Velasquez in a live interview.


    Citi has about $2T in assets

    deposits are on the liabilities side of banks' balance sheets

    if Imelda has $1T deposited at Citi, that means Citi owes her $1T

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    this is from the citigroup website:

    http://www.citigroup.com/citi/press/2010/100419a.htm

    BALANCE SHEET
    Citigroup assets were $2.0 trillion at quarter end, up 8% sequentially. The adoption of SFAS 166/167 added $137 billion of assets to the balance sheet as of January 1, 2010.

    Cash and deposits with banks were $189 billion, or 9.4% of total assets, compared to $193 billion, or 10.4% of total assets in the prior quarter.

    Citigroup deposits were $828 billion, down 1% sequentially.

    Citigroup's net interest margin was 3.32%, up from 2.65% in the fourth quarter of 2009, mainly due to the adoption of SFAS 166/167. Net interest margin expansion was also driven by the absence of interest payments on TARP trust preferred securities repaid in the prior quarter and the deployment of cash into higher yielding investments.
    ^^^

    deposits = $800B+

    tama si Chavez:

    “It exists only in her (Imelda Marcos') mind,” said Chavez.
    Imelda is DELUSIONAL
    Last edited by uls; May 4th, 2010 at 10:40 AM.

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    And to think she is running for Congresswoman under Villar's NP...

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