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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Obama has no vision whatsoever outside the USA, example - China's South China Sea Claims, Russian/Ukraine Mess.

    Even PM Merkel from Germany ranks higher than Obummer in Worlds Most Influential List
    Obama is an idiot racist community organizer hell bent in overthrowing Asad, he even insisted before to arm the rebel. Just look at what he did to Libya. Let's not forget Egypt, oh boy he love muslim brotherhood.

    The moron has no clue with foreign policy and economics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Obama is an idiot racist community organizer hell bent in overthrowing Asad, he even insisted before to arm the rebel. Just look at what he did to Libya. Let's not forget Egypt, oh boy he love muslim brotherhood.

    The moron has no clue with foreign policy and economics.
    Obama's approach is strategically sound. It's also something many US Presidents, both Dem and Republican, have done in the past.

    In the past, the US has intervened directly. When you have American soldiers killing people on the ground, even if their cause is just, it gives people a reason to hate you.

    Arming freedom fighters keeps Americans off the frontlines.

    Unfortunately, you run the risk of arming future terrorists. Which is why the response of the US has been so limited. Since Bush's invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq opened up a huge can of worms in terms of creating usntable breeding grounds for terrorist organizations, Western governments have shied away from using bazookas to kill houseflies. All it does is spread the eggs.

    Russia doesn't give two craps. They'll just bomb everyone and let Allah sort them out later. Everyone hates Russia, anyway... having another set of terrorists targeting them doesn't bother them all that much.

    In times past, this would have also been SOP for the US... favor a fascist government because it's easy to control them (Marcos, Saddan, etcetera)... but nowadays, that's a no-no.

    How is being anti-fascist racist, by the way?

    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    It all started with the EU's open border policy.
    The policy is part of the problem, but so far, we've only one gunman from outside the EU, and three or four from within France (including at least one Caucasian). All with no former convictions.

    Again, ISIS is now viral, and physical borders will no longer contain it. The most effective way to stop it is not by shutting the floodgates to give the Islamic State more victims... but by attacking the message and the messengers directly.
    Last edited by niky; November 15th, 2015 at 04:59 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    i was wondering the same thing: In Dubya's time, the US was criticized for meddling directly in ME affairs, sending US lives into harm's way over wars that don't directly affect the US. Now that Obama i *limiting* involvement, or at least not sending boots on the ground, he's being criticized for *not* meddling enough?

    Where's the middle ground here?

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    Algerian yan.


    The History of French-Muslim Violence Began in Algeria


    I know the history of France. Been to Louvre twice. That confllict is more than jiust ISIS. Am still reserving my comments here, nag-eenjoy ako bumasa ng comments dito lol. I could go on with the French Foreign Legion .. pero let's wait for news

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    Vive la France!

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    Paris concert gunman was French - source | ABS-CBN News

    The same source said that the gunman's body had been identified by his fingerprints and that he was from the Courcouronnes suburb south of Paris.

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    the tower, etc closed

    France closes Eiffel Tower, other tourist sites indefinitely

    for a few days lang siguro

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Algerian yan.


    The History of French-Muslim Violence Began in Algeria


    I know the history of France. Been to Louvre twice. That confllict is more than jiust ISIS. Am still reserving my comments here, nag-eenjoy ako bumasa ng comments dito lol. I could go on with the French Foreign Legion .. pero let's wait for news
    you derided the opinion of members here because you know the history of france, know about french foreign legion, and you had been to the LOUVRE MUSEUM. you think that this is more than just ISIS and you hold back giving your opinion on the matter because you wait for news EVEN IF the ISIS already admitted responsibility over the attack. if you hear hoofbeats don't think of zebras, think of horses.

    gamot mo OB. huwag mong kalimutang inumin on time.

    the views brought to the fore by the members here make sense. you're the only one who doesn't. take for example, safeorigin. she sounds like maria ressa who is, indubitably, a local expert in terrorism.

    at the philippine public safety college, we studied about it too, its anatomy, its origin, its history, the cause they allegedly fighting for, the part of the world they're operating, the personalities involved, their possible backers. each terrorist organization is a class of its own, but they all share one common denominator--
    "to sow and create a condition of widespread and extraordinary fear and panic among the populace, in order to coerce the government to give in to an unlawful demand." (lifted from human security act of 2007).

    if you want to level up your studies, you go to camp aguinaldo at the national defense college of the philippines and take the MNSA or master in national security administration. this is where security officials of different countries in Asia go to in order to learn.

    so, do not just go to the louvre or read the history of france or the french legion because you're just propagating bullshit, which justifies you from being banned here.

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    Read that some European countries are running out of guns to sell. Austria in particular running out of shotguns.

    i kinda get it: if it's gonna go down that way, they're gonna go down shooting. If ISIS be gangsta, they be gangsta too.

    Let's just hope it doesn't devolve into a shooting epidemic like in the US.
    Last edited by badkuk; November 15th, 2015 at 11:10 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Read that some European countries are running out of guns to sell. Austria in particular running out of shotguns.
    well, it goes without saying, that this a very good business opportunity for armscor, SAM, any and all backyard gunmakers in danao to sell their wares there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    well, it goes without saying, that this a very good business opportunity for armscor, SAM, any and all backyard gunmakers in danao to sell their wares there.
    Oh but it's the French military-industrial complex which will benefit the most pretty soon

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    you derided the opinion of members here because you know the history of france, know about french foreign legion, and you had been to the LOUVRE MUSEUM. you think that this is more than just ISIS and you hold back giving your opinion on the matter because you wait for news EVEN IF the ISIS already admitted responsibility over the attack. if you hear hoofbeats don't think of zebras, think of horses.

    gamot mo OB. huwag mong kalimutang inumin on time.

    the views brought to the fore by the members here make sense. you're the only one who doesn't. take for example, safeorigin. she sounds like maria ressa who is, indubitably, a local expert in terrorism.

    at the philippine public safety college, we studied about it too, its anatomy, its origin, its history, the cause they allegedly fighting for, the part of the world they're operating, the personalities involved, their possible backers. each terrorist organization is a class of its own, but they all share one common denominator--
    "to sow and create a condition of widespread and extraordinary fear and panic among the populace, in order to coerce the government to give in to an unlawful demand." (lifted from human security act of 2007).

    if you want to level up your studies, you go to camp aguinaldo at the national defense college of the philippines and take the MNSA or master in national security administration. this is where security officials of different countries in Asia go to in order to learn.

    so, do not just go to the louvre or read the history of france or the french legion because you're just propagating bullshit, which justifies you from being banned here.
    Wow the angst. Just give a few more the days the Fench Algerians will be mentioned. In the Munich olympics, it was right wing Germans who lead the Palesinians in the compound. In the Spain bombings, it was a right wing de facto group who aided the bombers.

    Kakasabi na nga lang sa news na so,e of the gunmen are Fench. Haba pa ng sinabo mo, may camp Aguinaldo pa lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    Wow the angst. Just give a few more the days the Fench Algerians will be mentioned. In the Munich olympics, it was right wing Germans who lead the Palesinians in the compound. In the Spain bombings, it was a right wing de facto group who aided the bombers.

    Kakasabi na nga lang sa news na so,e of the gunmen are Fench. Haba pa ng sinabo mo, may camp Aguinaldo pa lol
    it's not angst. it's intolerance for people who are fake, sham, and bogus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    it's not angst. it's intolerance for people who are fake, sham, and bogus.
    Still angst

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    well, it wouldn't have become this bad if they didn't keep on intervening in middle east. it messed up regional stability really bad.

    just imagine how much worse it could have been if they toppled syria and iran regime. ME would be a virtual wahhabi monopoly.
    Last edited by safeorigin; November 15th, 2015 at 09:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Obama is an idiot racist community organizer hell bent in overthrowing Asad, he even insisted before to arm the rebel. Just look at what he did to Libya. Let's not forget Egypt, oh boy he love muslim brotherhood.

    The moron has no clue with foreign policy and economics.
    *cough* yemen *cough*

    and yeah, he's a teleprompter puppet

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    How Paris ISIS Terrorists May Have Used PlayStation 4 To Discuss And Plan Attacks
    Paul Tassi
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    Following Friday night’s terrorist attacks in Paris which killed at least 127 people and left more than 300 injured, authorities are discovering just how the massacre was planned. And it may involve the most popular gaming console in the world, Sony ’s PlayStation 4.

    The hunt for those responsible (eight terrorists were killed Saturday night, but accomplices may still be at large) led to a number of raids in nearby Brussels. Evidence reportedly turned up included at least one PlayStation 4 console.

    Belgian federal home affairs minister Jan Jambon said outright that the PS4 is by used ISIS agents to communicate, and was selected due to the fact that it’s notoriously hard to monitor. “PlayStation 4 is even more difficult to keep track of than WhatsApp,” he said.

    When the new generation of consoles launched, there were concerns that they would be too light on privacy, with peripherals like Microsoft MSFT -1.92%’s Kinect and PlayStation’s Camera possibly having the ability to spy on users if say, the government wanted a window into your living room.

    While the idea is certainly Orwellian, it’s the non-peripheral based communication on consoles which may provide terrorists a channel to effectively converse with one another. The comparatively low-tech system may offer a more secure means of communication than even encrypted phone calls, texts and email.

    While it remains unclear whether the Paris ISIS terrorists employed PS4 to communicate, there are a few options, from sending messages through the PlayStation Network (PSN) online gaming service and voice-chatting to even communicating through a specific game. Documents leaked by Edward Snowden in 2013 revealed that the NSA and CIA actually embedded themselves in games like World of Warcraft to infiltrate virtual terrorist meet-ups.

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    With PlayStation 4, it seems likely that simple voice communication could have worked just fine. It’s still difficult for investigators to monitor IP-based voice systems compared to say, a simple cellphone. In 2010, the FBI pushed for access to all manner of Internet communications, including gaming chat systems. The FCC did not grant the FBI access to peer-to-peer communications, but the government agency did build its own rigs to record their communications in pursuit of criminals in organized chats, like a pedophile trying to lure kids via Xbox Live. Most consoles today come equipped with such capabilities, as nearly anything you do on your unit can be recorded if you want, in this age of YouTube and livestreaming.

    The point is that terrorists could simply be in a PSN party together and chatting away mostly free from the fear that anyone is listening because of the difficulty and infrequency of governments eavesdropping on those forms of communication. It remains unclear just how much access the government has gotten to places like PSN and Xbox Live in the past few years, but whatever it is, it’s likely still short of its ability to track more traditional forms of communication, such as cellphones and computers.

    By last count, PSN alone had around 110 million users, 65 million of them active, making this no small pool of people. While government agencies can often build profiles of suspected terrorists based on their Internet or communication history, it’s much harder to profile someone based on console usage, if that data is even accessible. Few users would visit extremist’s sites in the PSN Web browser for instance or brag about future attacks in a public game lobby. There is no collection of games that really should raise “suspicion” about possible terrorist ties in an era where terrorism-filled Call of Duty titles are the best-selling games of the year, every year. How do you “profile” a gamer when information is not easy to access, and probably will tell you nothing even if you could get your hands on it?

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    The scary part of all this is that there are probably still a number of ways that terrorists could send messages to each other without speaking a word, if they really wanted to. An ISIS agent could spell out an attack plan in Super Mario Maker’s coins and share it privately with a friend, or two Call of Duty players could write messages to each other on a wall in a disappearing spray of bullets. It may sound ridiculous, but it would almost be impossible to track. To do so would require an FBI or NSA agent somehow tapping all the activity on an entire console, not just voice and text chat, and that should not even be technically possible at this point.

    While the makers of burner phones were once criticized for making it easier for criminals to communicate, it seems unlikely Microsoft and Sony will face the same scrutiny, even in the wake of this information. And yet, they may be inclined to start providing easier ways for governments to monitor specific accounts or consoles than what’s readily available now. Because as it is, the most popular gaming devices also happen to be the most effective at connecting not just the world’s friends, but the world’s enemies as well.
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    haha, more excuse for mass surveillance. how convenient

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