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    additional 2 years of senior highschool.. so aabutan ba yung mga anak natin nito?? sa public school lang ba to?? or pati private schools??

    additional 2 years in hs.. additional gastos to!

    sa ngayon nga yung ibang public schools may 2 shifts na.. yung iba 3 shifts pa to accomodate the number of students.. tapos dadagdagan pa nang 2 years? hayy

    http://www.philstar.com/ArticlePrint...bCategoryId=63

    DepEd to start 'K+12' in June
    MANILA, Philippines - The Department of Education (DepEd) is set to implement the first phase of its ambitious K+12 (kindergarten plus 12 years) proposal with the establishment of thousands of “kindergarten schools” in most of the 38,000 public elementary schools throughout the country by the opening of school year 2011-2012 this June.

    Education Secretary Armin Luistro said yesterday the kindergarten schools would also be bolstered by thousands of pre-schools to be created from the Department of Social Welfare and Development (DSWD) barangay day care centers in collaboration with the Department of Health.

    Luistro said the DepEd was given much encouragement to push ahead with their grand plan to add two years to the basic education curriculum (BEC).

    The current BEC has 10 years of elementary and secondary education, but the DepEd now wants to have six years of elementary education, four years of junior high school and an additional two years of senior high school.

    Luistro said consultative meetings in the country’s 17 regions regarding the K+12 program have been completed, and results of a survey conducted among the participants of these meetings showed that 77 percent approved of the plan.

    “We’re very happy with the results,” Luistro said in a press briefing yesterday at the DepEd central office in Pasig City.

    Luistro noted that there were even several regions, namely IV-A, IV-B, V, VII, VIII, XI, and Caraga, that were 100 percent supportive of the program.

    The stakeholders invited to attend the consultative meetings were students and educators in private and public schools, their parents, and representatives from the government and the private sector, according to Luistro.

    The education chief, however, said there were also some sentiments against the program that were raised during the meetings.

    “We noted that in most of the regions, there was a turnaround in sentiment on K+12 when we explained it clearly, when we presented the benefits of the program and allayed concerns on the additional costs and years in school,” Luistro said.

    He said that what they emphasized was that the K+12 program will make high school graduates ready for employment straight out of high school.

    The DepEd earlier said that the K+12 plan is projected to need additional funding amounting to P43.67 billion for more classrooms, teachers and textbooks.

    But Luistro said the DepEd is not yet focusing on the financial aspect of the program since the additional two years of school that will be instituted in public schools will only be set up by school year 2016-2017.

    “That’s a long time from now. We’re focusing now on addressing the current shortages in classrooms,” Luistro said.

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    Kung sino sino kasi ginagawang secretary na mga walang alam.

    Kid learn the real stuff in college, not through books and lectures but in experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius View Post
    Kung sino sino kasi ginagawang secretary na mga walang alam.

    Kid learn the real stuff in college, not through books and lectures but in experience.
    academically speaking, this is half true only.

    we specialize in college to be a doctor, economists, etc.

    but we didnt learn math and grammar through experience. someone taught it to us. so we need books and lectures.

    if I may add, I think only two countries in the world has 10 years of general/basic education. One is the Philippines. The rest of the world has 12 years. This was based on the data from CHED which was used by one of our committees to assess the additional 2 years in general education.

    now, the problem in the Philippines is very complicated. in our university, many new students still have difficulty in math and communication courses which reflects the inadequacy in the general education (elem to highschool). What happens is that the university "provides" the additional learning in the general education which is supposed to be done in elem and HS.

    however, given the current situation where we lack teachers, classrooms and books, it will be difficult to add additional 2 years in the general education system. this is not just a a matter of additional costs on the part of the parents but also on the part of the government.

    if i remember it correctly, one of the suggestions on the committee I mentioned is to put up a "junior college" system which will focus on deficiencies in basic or general education. then in the actual college, students can choose their specialized fields.

    maybe good students can skip junior colleges and jump straight to baccalaureate program.

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    Well kahit ilang years pa sila sa school, fact is only a small number of people will be hired. The rest, either tatambay sa bahay asa sa magulang or sa call center.

    Wait a moment, there's a couple of good quotes from Bill Gates.

    I failed in some subjects in exam, but my friend passed in all. Now he is an engineer in Microsoft and I am the owner of Microsoft.
    I studied every thing but never topped...But today the toppers of the best universities are my employees

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucius View Post
    Well kahit ilang years pa sila sa school, fact is only a small number of people will be hired. The rest, either tatambay sa bahay asa sa magulang or sa call center.

    Wait a moment, there's a couple of good quotes from Bill Gates.
    Very rare lang nangyayari yung hindi ka nagaral and naging successful ka. Majority of the populace need good education to have at least a decent salary.

    In our present education system, masyadong bata ang mga graduates. 20yo or below, college graduate na. Karamihan isip bata pa and yung iba nga dun di pa kayang lumayo sa parents.

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    He said that what they emphasized was that the K+12 program will make high school graduates ready for employment straight out of high school.
    kalokohan din yung pwede nang mag work after the 6 years planned high school.. eh sa dami nang na graduate sa college every year.. sa dami nang pumapasa sa mga board exams.. na hirap pa din maka kuha nang work dito sa atin.. san pupulutin yang graduate lang nang 6 years of highschool.. eh di syempre mas uunahin na nang mga employers yung graduate nang 4 year course sa college..

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Very rare lang nangyayari yung hindi ka nagaral and naging successful ka. Majority of the populace need good education to have at least a decent salary.

    In our present education system, masyadong bata ang mga graduates. 20yo or below, college graduate na. Karamihan isip bata pa and yung iba nga dun di pa kayang lumayo sa parents.
    I agree.

    Regarding the very successful dropout Bill Gates, ERAP used him as an example to show that having a college degree is not necessary to be successful.

    A few successful dropouts should not be a reason not to get an education.

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    not a good idea, in my opinion.

    its very obvious that the lenght of schooling is not the root cause of the low literacy rate among filipinos.

    there is nothing wrong with the current BEC duration.

    whats wrong is the quality of the education, from the curriculum contents to the school facilities to the teachers themselves.

    there are good schools out there that still produce top graduates even on an accelerated mode.

    i know, i came from old school (no pun intended) public science school.

    sa band-aid solution na to ng deped, mas marami pa tayong mga kabataan na hindi makakatapos ng pag-aaral dahil pinalalaki pa nila ang gastos sa pag-aaral.

    filipino literacy rate will see its lowest point, ironically, within the next 5 years of implementing this.

    tsk tsk tsk

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    Buti nalang hindi ako aabutan nito kasi college freshman na ako sa pasukan.

    Siguro matutuwa ang mga kakagraduate ng Grade 6 this year dahil five years silang magkakasama sa hirap at ginhawa

    Buti nalang hindi ko sila tinakot kasi sa year book committee, tinatawagan ko sila for the info at hindi ko minemention ang k12 thingy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myk384 View Post
    Buti nalang hindi ako aabutan nito kasi college freshman na ako sa pasukan.

    Siguro matutuwa ang mga kakagraduate ng Grade 6 this year dahil five years silang magkakasama sa hirap at ginhawa

    Buti nalang hindi ko sila tinakot kasi sa year book committee, tinatawagan ko sila for the info at hindi ko minemention ang k12 thingy.

    Sus! kala ko naman talagang car connoisseur ka kung maka post ka dun sa "rice" thread! ang layo pa pala ng lalakbayin mo!

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    ano kaya magiging impact nito?

    yung mga first year high school ngayon (2nd year next year) graduate na sila after 3 years which is 2014.

    yung incoming first year high school students, gagraduate sila ng high school ng 2016.

    it means magiging konti lang ang magiging 1st year college sa school year 2014-2015?

    and yung volume ng mga gagraduate ng college ng 2018-19 eh kokonti.

    tama ba ito? or applicable din ito sa mga 2nd year high school na ngayon?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jedi View Post
    ano kaya magiging impact nito?

    yung mga first year high school ngayon (2nd year next year) graduate na sila after 3 years which is 2014.

    yung incoming first year high school students, gagraduate sila ng high school ng 2016.

    it means magiging konti lang ang magiging 1st year college sa school year 2014-2015?

    and yung volume ng mga gagraduate ng college ng 2018-19 eh kokonti.

    tama ba ito? or applicable din ito sa mga 2nd year high school na ngayon?
    Yup, that's correct. Most of my froshie going on sophomore friends are happy about it. The question is, how would the third years be called? And how would they celebrate JS prom??

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    this is stupid.

    mas tataas ang drop-out rate nito - coz parents can no longer pay for the +2 years in hs.

    they can't fix the current problems now nga eh. what more if they add 2 more years ? mas " hell " yan for them. mas babatikusin sila.

    this is good sana IF ...

    1. there are sufficient jobs to employ the unemployed parents here.
    2. there are enough classrooms for the students
    3. there are enough teachers/textbooks/chairs etc. for the students
    4. there will be enough jobs awaiting for the graduating students from the public/private school

    ang tanong, meron ba ? WALA.
    Last edited by renzo_d10; April 26th, 2011 at 07:33 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mact_tors View Post
    Sus! kala ko naman talagang car connoisseur ka kung maka post ka dun sa "rice" thread! ang layo pa pala ng lalakbayin mo!

    ...........:hysterical:


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    also may question na.. is this for public schools only?? required ba sumunod ang mga private schools? pano yung mga private schools na matagal nang may Grade 7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    also may question na.. is this for public schools only?? required ba sumunod ang mga private schools? pano yung mga private schools na matagal nang may Grade 7?
    That's the question.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    additional 2 years of senior highschool.. so aabutan ba yung mga anak natin nito?? sa public school lang ba to?? or pati private schools??

    additional 2 years in hs.. additional gastos to!

    sa ngayon nga yung ibang public schools may 2 shifts na.. yung iba 3 shifts pa to accomodate the number of students.. tapos dadagdagan pa nang 2 years? hayy

    http://www.philstar.com/ArticlePrint...bCategoryId=63
    di ba kulang tayo sa class room and teachers? papano ka magdadag ng 2 more years? saan mo ilalagay yung mga estudyate? saan ba galing yang si luistro? di ba sa eskwelahan ng mayayaman. tataas ang revenue ng may ari ng la salle and mapua.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    additional 2 years of senior highschool.. so aabutan ba yung mga anak natin nito?? sa public school lang ba to?? or pati private schools??

    additional 2 years in hs.. additional gastos to!

    sa ngayon nga yung ibang public schools may 2 shifts na.. yung iba 3 shifts pa to accomodate the number of students.. tapos dadagdagan pa nang 2 years? hayy

    http://www.philstar.com/ArticlePrint...bCategoryId=63


    pahirap lang to lalo na sa masang Filipino. this is so stupid. Ang dami na ngang nahihirapan magtapos ng high school kahit sa public schools. The additional budget should be used for salary increase of public school teachers, for class rooms, books, etc. My daughter is studying in a public elementary school, Section 1, mas maganda kasi ang foundation ng elementary and high school education sa public schools dito sa amin compared sa private. 40 na nga sila sa isang klase, tapos luma na ang mga books. bat di na lang dagdagan ang classrooms and teachers para maging 20 lang sa 1 class.

    For me, tama na ang number of years ng present elem. and high school education dito sa Phils. Pahirap din lalo to to those who are planning to take up medicine or law as post graduate studies.

    From kindergarteen up to HS, sa public schoos lang naman ako nag-aral, then, sa college, State University, public school pa rin, nakatikim lang ako ng private school, College of Law na, prov'l. law school pa na kulang na kulang sa facililies and "training", naging lawyer din naman ako and take 1 sa bar because I have a good basic elementary and high school education.

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    Whether we like it or not, this is something that we need to do in preparation for the implementation and full realization of the declaration ASEAN 2015: One Vision, One Identity, One Community.

    By 2015, the Asean region will become a single market and production base wherein there will be a free flow of goods, services, capital, skilled workers just like what Europe did.

    According to the latest Global Competitive Index (GCI) data, the Philippines needs to improve more on the basic requirements of competitiveness, namely institutions, infrastructure, macroeconomic stability, health, and primary education. GCI data also show that the Philippines has to get better in higher education and training, goods-market efficiency, labor-market efficiency, financial-market development, technological readiness and market size. Further, the country needs to develop business sophistication and innovation, according to GCI.

    As of now, our fresh graduates cannot work in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, etc. because we lack the number of years in basic education which is a big disadvantage for our country in 2015.

    As unpopular as it is, this additional 2 years maybe liken to a bitter pill that we all need to take for the good of our country in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sugoi_yats View Post
    As of now, our fresh graduates cannot work in Singapore, Malaysia, Thailand, etc. because we lack the number of years in basic education which is a big disadvantage for our country in 2015.
    So it all boils down to this? Hay, nakakaawa talaga ang Pilipinas.

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