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    #101
    Quote Originally Posted by tabularasa View Post
    Bordering on black propaganda yan bro. A legislator only legislates, he does not execute the laws. Si Gloria ang dapat mong sisihin sa brown out. Sa Luisita Massacre, si Satur Ocampo ang nag-instigate ng mga tao in the first place. They were just asking for increase in wages and benefits, hinaluan nina Satur ng lupa na hindi naman talaga kasama sa demands ng mga totoong taga luisita. Secondly, imagine taking P6 Million out of the P11 Million amount of harvest from the farmers as payment for Satur's mobilization efforts. Grabe talga.
    Precisely, a legislator LEGISLATES. Did Noynoy ever legislate??? He NEVER performed his duty as a legislator. 12 years and not even 1 law, and only a handful of bills. 13 lang ata if i remember correctly. Legislation is quite a simple thing compared to being a president. If a person is incompetent in doing a simple thing, what makes you think he will be competent doing a much larger and more complicated thing?

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    #102
    That's the same arguments GMA camp used against FPJ during the 2004 elections. GMA won (with cheating of course) and now ano nangyari? Magaling nga, pero kung hindi malinis wala din. Wala daw experience at walang nagawa... Noynoy is not the performance candidate per se but the CLEAN candidate and certainly with his breeding and family background he can do well to be the CLEAN president...

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    #103
    Quote Originally Posted by daney_waney View Post
    Precisely, a legislator LEGISLATES. Did Noynoy ever legislate??? He NEVER performed his duty as a legislator. 12 years and not even 1 law, and only a handful of bills. 13 lang ata if i remember correctly. Legislation is quite a simple thing compared to being a president. If a person is incompetent in doing a simple thing, what makes you think he will be competent doing a much larger and more complicated thing?
    Yes, he did perform. It is too myopic for one to define the functions of legislative branch to simply legislate laws. There is such a thing as oversight and investigative functions of the legislative branch at doon naman bumawi si Noynoy. Please be careful in using incompetent because you haven't seen the true picture of what he did as fiscalizer. By the way, Gloria did a lot of complicated things as president especially when it comes to stealing people's money and worse even making a science out of it. Matalino pa naman, wala lang integrity at honesty.

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    #104
    Quote Originally Posted by sgt_taga View Post
    nak ng pating... kung totoo man ito tapos mananalo si noynoy, sa kangkungan pupulutin ang bayan ni juan.
    Ay panigurado yan, ayaw kong isugal ang boto ko kay noynoy, delikado, it's too risky to vote for him, at isa pa, sa nakikita ko, kulang pa ang skills at knowledge niya para mamuno sa bansa natin.

    Sige, i-boto ninyo si noynoy, para wala nang mahirap, kasi lahat ng mahihirap mamamatay na sa gutom dahil sa palpak na pamamalakad ni noynoy.
    Last edited by boybi; May 3rd, 2010 at 10:03 AM.

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    #105
    Quote Originally Posted by santinopogi View Post
    Sige, i-boto ninyo si noynoy, para wala nang mahirap, kasi lahat ng mahihirap mamamatay na sa gutom dahil sa palpak na pamamalakad ni noynoy.
    Nostradamus is in the house.. He just joined Tsikot and it seems he can see the future!

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    #106
    If Noynoy is anything like Cory I would be satisfied already. Just a clean government and to restore the people's trust in government is what we really need. We don't need smart and experienced people with wrong intentions. GMA (experienced and smart but with wrong intent) proved that its no good!

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    #107
    Quote Originally Posted by claRkEnt View Post
    that health and mental issues against Noynoy if true would have shown if it really exists during the gruesome campaign period! Just imagine how tiring that campaign activities are! And to think na El Nino Season pa ngayon. If there had been incidents showing any sign of him being "unfit", media blitz na yun, but there was none.

    just a point: Armand Sanchez of Batangas died coz of Heat stroke and fatigue yata. Local campaigning lang ginagawa nya.

    People medyo nagpapaniwala na may health and mental issues siya kasi iba talaga itsura niya. Tapos natutulog during forum at konti lang na legislate. Parang ang labas tuloy nakikiride lang siya sa popularity ng magulang niya. He may be clean but clearly incompetent.

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    #108
    Quote Originally Posted by tidus1203 View Post
    If Noynoy is anything like Cory I would be satisfied already. Just a clean government and to restore the people's trust in government is what we really need. We don't need smart and experienced people with wrong intentions. GMA (experienced and smart but with wrong intent) proved that its no good!
    You dont know what you're saying. GMA is experienced and smart. She used these traits to keep our country afloat during the recession. Our economy has improved a bit. When it comes to governance... she did her part well. It was her family and the people behind her who ruined her credibility. Noynoy, he may be stupid and clean... but that is not what we need. Since he is stupid his bad supporters might just ruin him just like what happened to Gloria.

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    #109
    Quote Originally Posted by tabularasa View Post
    Bordering on black propaganda yan bro. A legislator only legislates, he does not execute the laws. Si Gloria ang dapat mong sisihin sa brown out. Sa Luisita Massacre, si Satur Ocampo ang nag-instigate ng mga tao in the first place. They were just asking for increase in wages and benefits, hinaluan nina Satur ng lupa na hindi naman talaga kasama sa demands ng mga totoong taga luisita. Secondly, imagine taking P6 Million out of the P11 Million amount of harvest from the farmers as payment for Satur's mobilization efforts. Grabe talga.
    so pag na legislate na niya papabayaan na niya yung laws kahit na hindi na-execute? he is still accountable for it... and so are the other officials who thought of this. gloria cannot do it alone kaya nga may mga opisyal under her who should have been helping to address this issue. in the first place, kung tumupad lang sa usapan ang pamilya nila Noynoy, di sana hindi na naimpluensyahan ni satur ocampo ang mga taga luisita. think of the root cause, man.

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    #110
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    lately I think Villar is playing the same role with his mother and sisters hugging the limelight last week with their presscon.
    i dont think there is anything wrong with that. si noynoy lang ba ang may karapatan na isama ang pamilya sa kampanya?

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    #111
    Oh no, not another one... May isa pang Villar troll sa kabilang Noy2 thread... Baka matulad kayo ni Pedrosa.
    Last edited by Monseratto; May 3rd, 2010 at 10:33 AM.

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    #112
    Quote Originally Posted by harmlesschick View Post
    You dont know what you're saying. GMA is experienced and smart. She used these traits to keep our country afloat during the recession. Our economy has improved a bit. When it comes to governance... she did her part well. It was her family and the people behind her who ruined her credibility. Noynoy, he may be stupid and clean... but that is not what we need. Since he is stupid his bad supporters might just ruin him just like what happened to Gloria.
    do you believe what you're saying here?

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    #113
    Quote Originally Posted by vito corleone View Post
    do you believe what you're saying here?
    Tama ka, mahirap paniwalan nga. Napaka hirap.

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    #114
    Quote Originally Posted by vito corleone View Post
    do you believe what you're saying here?
    Well she's a Villar supporter, will say anything even if unbelievable to defend Villar as being the next Arroyo (ika nga Villaroyo)...

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    #115
    Quote Originally Posted by tabularasa View Post
    Yes, he did perform. It is too myopic for one to define the functions of legislative branch to simply legislate laws. There is such a thing as oversight and investigative functions of the legislative branch at doon naman bumawi si Noynoy. Please be careful in using incompetent because you haven't seen the true picture of what he did as fiscalizer. By the way, Gloria did a lot of complicated things as president especially when it comes to stealing people's money and worse even making a science out of it. Matalino pa naman, wala lang integrity at honesty.

    Quite frankly you don't know what the you're talking about. Do you actually know the purpose of those oversight and investigative committees?? Doon siya bumawi? Anong point ng gagawin niya dun if it does not translate into a law precisely to correct the problems that were seen in those committees. It is basic in separation of powers that the PRIMARY duty of a legislator is to LEGISLATE. Its not myopic. In simple terms, all those activities of the so called committees and investigations are useless exercises if they do not translate into law which will correct those problems.

    Bakit? Akala mo ba yung ibang presidente hindi nagnakaw and walang corruption? In all respects to Cory, may mga cronies din siya nung panahon niya. So I really don't buy the honesty and integrity crap. Tingnan mo kaya ibang countries specially the 1st world ones, do you think walang corruption dun? There sure is. The only difference is that ang corruption sa kanila top level lang. Dito ultimo clerk at mga bantay, nangungurakot. So no "clean" but incompetent president can change things specially if he does not have the will to do it. Do you actually think Noynoy can at the very least lessen corruption? Get real. It does not start with the president. It starts with every single citizen of the country.

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    #116
    Quote Originally Posted by vito corleone View Post
    do you believe what you're saying here?
    This is actually an open secret. Ang sobrang garapal mangurakot is not really GMA herself but her husband and son. :S

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    #117
    Quoting from a very nice read in the internet:

    2nd reason why Noynoy is clueless: he thinks that since he is not corrupt, then there will be no corruption.

    Reality check:

    Corruption is unfortunately deeply ingrained in the Philippine political system. That is not to say that we should not do something about it. But it is to recognize that it is not only the President but those around him/her who matter. Cory was quite saintly, but Kamaganak Inc. rampaged through her Presidency. Frank Drilon, the President of the Liberal Party, is himself known as corrupt.

    Noynoy has no governance experience, whether in business or politics, and those close to him can easily run circles around him.

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    #118
    Hey...by the way Harmlesschick. Welcome to Tsikot.


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    #119
    Why are the new female Tsikot members feisty, combative and outspoken. Is this the New Pinay?

    Where are the sensitive types ("My boyfriend left me. Boo hoo.")?

    :question:

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    #120
    But then of course we are not sure kung babae sya I can always make a female alternick right?

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