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    #61
    Quote Originally Posted by vinj View Post
    Before, i asked a power plant manager on his take on BNPP. He said that in his opinion, it is safe to operate. His big question was how it will be managed and maintained by those who run it.

    I wonder though how Anvaya Cove/Ayala will take having a nuclear power plant in their vicinity, if BNPP was ever operated (it's around 20kms away by road per google maps). I read before that they offer tours of the place, i'm curious to pass by during one of my drives. That place has nice driving roads.


    You should take the opportunity to go on the BNPP tours. I went there back when I was in college as part of our engineering fieldtrips. The BNPP was impressive. And there are places around the BNPP where you can have a quiet picnic.

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    ^ Just checked on google and they still give the tours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by usong725 View Post
    based on wiki, as early as 1958 meron na tayo "Philippine Nuclear Research Institute". So i dont incompetent tayo sa nuclear technology.
    ic sir..but in terms of actually running one, wala pa ata ?


    re safety due to earthquake at typhoons, since 1980s yan na ang reasoning ng mga tao kaya ayaw pabuksan. after 30 years may nangyari na ba sa mga kinakatakutan nila na yun? 30+ years ang sinayang dahil sa mga pangambang walang basehan
    Worry ko kasi, parang nag iiba na weather patterns ngayon. Is any location really typhoon free?

    about fukushima, hindi naman yung earthquake ang reason bakit nagkaroon ng meltdown. Kundi dahil sa tsunami. Tapos mas bagong model pa yung nasa Bataan. Yung mga operational sa ibang bansa ay older models. Kaya parang malabo yung mga kinakatakutan ng mga experts kuno.
    afaik, power went out at Fukushima, and the backup diesel generators for pumping water to cool the reactors kicked in. But the diesel generators weren't placed high enough(but bec. of the sheer size of the tsunami), so it got flooded when the tsunami hit.

    i agree, certain design tweaks can make one plant safer than the other. CNN pointed out a certain US nuclear plant in the US were the water is "gravity driven" -- i.e. me falls/river/etc that flows down to the reactors -- so power or no power, safe siya.


    pwede kayang private company ang mag operate nalang nito?

    Kung matuloy man, gusto ko rin private company. i have Zero faith on our government to manage something like this.

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    #64
    kaya ng pinoy i-operate yang nuclear plant ... training lang ang katapat

    kung matuloy man buksan, kahit hindi man bumaba singil sa kuryente, magkaroon naman tayo ng reliable power at makatulong sa ekonomiya


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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Kung matuloy man, gusto ko rin private company. i have Zero faith on our government to manage something like this.
    Kaya ng Pinoy yan.

    We can even get the same company who runs this famous powerplant as advisors.


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    ^

    malabo mangyari yan sir. alam mo naman tayo conservative pa pagdating sa ganyan. madaming mga environmental advocates ang tutol dyan.

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    malabo, maski private or public mag run. It would be a big-big project and pag private ka, you have to deal with meralco, kasama na dyan mga ibang power providers magkasabwat mga yan e. Siyempre may sawsaw din government.
    And of course the people behind the scenes of each of those.
    Not to mention where you get and how you dispose the fuel of the reactor.
    End result is sure disgrasya, meltdown.

    Walang pagasa Pilipinas, theres more Stupids pulling you down then Smarts pushing you up

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    #68
    Gokongwei bought 27percent of meralco. Seems like state is losing control to manage and regulate the utilities here. More fun in the philippines.


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    Wouldn't be surprised if one day we all wake up and we're China's next annex.

    Not sure if it is better than becoming the capital of SM country heheh

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    hindi malayong isipin, kasabwat ang ERC ... anjan si ducut mandurukot

    Ducut served as pork agent of Napoles?Luy | Inquirer News

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    Quote Originally Posted by kinyo View Post
    kaya ng pinoy i-operate yang nuclear plant ... training lang ang katapat

    kung matuloy man buksan, kahit hindi man bumaba singil sa kuryente, magkaroon naman tayo ng reliable power at makatulong sa ekonomiya

    LOL! simple edsa and LRT/MRT hindi ma maintain ng pinoy, rocket science nuclear pa kaya... reality check please not negativity here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stigg ma View Post
    LOL! simple edsa and LRT/MRT hindi ma maintain ng pinoy, rocket science nuclear pa kaya... reality check please not negativity here...
    Whats so hard with running a nuke plant? Heck Homer Simpson can do it! Joke

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    Suspending power rate hike will just prolong the agony - Oscar


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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    ^

    malabo mangyari yan sir. alam mo naman tayo conservative pa pagdating sa ganyan. madaming mga environmental advocates ang tutol dyan.
    Front lang yang environmental advocates, the true opposition is the gov't itself losing tax on fuel imports and the oligarchs cashing in sa fuel monopoly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Retz View Post
    Gokongwei bought 27percent of meralco. Seems like state is losing control to manage and regulate the utilities here. More fun in the philippines.


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    Huh!? They bought From SMB diba? , so what's the difference kung sila or SMB ang may hawak ng 27% Sa meralco?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Huh!? They bought From SMB diba? , so what's the difference kung sila or SMB ang may hawak ng 27% Sa meralco?


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    #77
    Nuclear power plant is an old technology. Dont underestimate pinoys with something na nadevelop na and functioning in the 60s or 70s unless we are not open to change.

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    I want my refund!!!

    Supreme Court stops Meralco's power rate hike
    ANC – 25 minutes ago

    The Supreme Court has temporarily stopped the Manila Electric Company (Meralco)'s P4.15 power rate hike on Monday.

    The high court issued a 60-day temporary restraining order (TRO) after two petitions were filed against the rate increase.

    The Energy Regulatory Commission (ERC) has earlier approved Meralco's proposal to implement the rate hike in three tranches. The ERC later backtracked on its approval of the staggered power rate hike for February and March.

    The first tranche of P2.41 per kilowatt hour has already been implemented in December. This was supposed to be followed by a P1.21 per kilowatt hour increase in February and P0.53 per kilowatt hour hike in March. Some groups consider this the "highest electricity rate in [Philippine] history."

    Meralco was previously prompted to propose an increase in their generation charge after Luzon's largest power supplier, the Malampaya oil and gas project, was closed for maintenance until December 10. The maintenance shutdown has reportedly forced Metro Manila's lone power distributor to buy more expensive diesel for its plants.

    The Department of Energy (DOE) and the Senate Energy Committee are currently investigating a "possible collusion" between power companies .

    Energy Sec. Jericho Petilla said they are also preparing measures to prevent another possible power price hike in Summer.

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    #79
    so paano na? magkano dapat bayaran for November and December bills? eh naka add na yun increase sa nabayaran?

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    #80
    i-refund nila sa next bill
    ako rin natanggap ko na yun bill ko for dec. kaso hindi ko pa binabayaran
    bumaba consumption ko kaso tumaas yun babayaran ko

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