Martial Law in Mindanao

[minicarph]

academics and other experts were already warning the govt of ISIS years ago but were ignored

looking back (hindsight is 20/20) ISIS is indeed very attractive to Muslim extremists all over the world

the idea of an "Islamic State" ruled with the strictest Sharia law --- every Muslim extremist out there wants in

governments around the world underestimated the influence of ISIS

if you have a Muslim population, within that Muslim population there will definitely be those with extremist views --- those are your potential ISIS recruits/sympathizers.

be it in France, or UK, or whatever country

ISIS (the idea, the ideology) is gonna be very hard to stop

ang nagtataka talaga ako panay mga bakla ang target nila, yun sa paris concert geounds pero nun time na ina-ttack yun gay's noght, then yun sa florida, gay bar, tapos sa arianna grande, we all kniw naman more on gay population supporters niya.

parang galit na galit ang ISIS sa mga bakla. the similarity lan is our own Vatican is against mga bakla din, kaya nga dine-pose yun former Pope eh kasi very vocal sya sa mga bakla, eh pepede ba yun eh Milan eh fashion capital ng europe. puro kabaklaan yun . so hayun kinelangan i-retire ang pope for life for a humbe pope coz. syempre mga bakla since hindi sila makintinde ng honor and courage, but they can understand humility.

the muslims dont do it that way, they're warriors eh baket magpapakumbaba sa mga bakla. like as if di ba. eh sino ba pinkamatinde kalaban ng Muslims eh di ba Jews, eh di ba sa Israel pinakamarami gay communities. and isa pa style ng mga Jews eh usury make money work for money then control the media to control the truth. kaya ang accussations eh the western world are controlled by Zionist culture.

so kung titignan ang pinaglalaban ng Isis is the same as pinaglalaban ng ating Vatican.

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[Wh1stl3r]

academics and other experts were already warning the govt of ISIS years ago but were ignored

looking back (hindsight is 20/20) ISIS is indeed very attractive to Muslim extremists all over the world

the idea of an "Islamic State" ruled with the strictest Sharia law --- every Muslim extremist out there wants in

governments around the world underestimated the influence of ISIS

if you have a Muslim population, within that Muslim population there will definitely be those with extremist views --- those are your potential ISIS recruits/sympathizers

be it in France, or UK, or whatever country

ISIS (the idea, the ideology) is gonna be very hard to stop

I'm just wondering why the moderate Muslims aren't at the forefront of condemning that ideology. Shouldn't they at least least regularly make statements against IS in MSM?

People will see the lack of a solid moderate Muslim position against IS and terrorism as condoning them. Potential backlash against their religion is something to think about.

[anonemus]

I'm just wondering why the moderate Muslims aren't at the forefront of condemning that ideology. Shouldn't they at least least regularly make statements against IS in MSM?

People will see the lack of a solid moderate Muslim position against IS and terrorism as condoning them. Potential backlash against their religion is something to think about.

Actually, they are making statements but mainstream media arent publishing them. But I do read them in my feeds. Here's a sample of MILF's position on ML

MILF OFFICIAL STATEMENT ON DECLARATION OF MARTIAL LAW IN MINDANAO
24 May 2017
After the disturbing events that have unfolded in Marawi City, Malacanang has announced that the President has declared Martial Law in the whole of Mindanao. Such proclamation, presumably made within the legal processes of the Government of the Philippines, is apparently designed to contain the Marawi incident and to prevent it from spreading to other parts of Mindanao.
The Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF), while not in a position to question the factual basis for the proclamation or the decision to make it, appeals to the Philippine Government to ensure that the ceasefire mechanisms continue to work on the ground, and that any military operations against the Group that perpetrated the violence in Marawi does not spark more fighting in other areas. Mobilizing the military in Mindanao should still respect the mechanisms that have proven to be effective in scaling down armed encounters between government forces and the Bangsamoro Islamic Armed Forces (BIAF). Conversely, recent events have shown that disregard of these mechanisms have been disastrous to our communities and to the effort to bring to fruition the end of the decades-long conflict in our homeland.
The MILF strongly condemns the violence in Marawi perpetrated by group or groups whose only aim is to sow terror. There is no justification for launching an offensive against civilian populace and to destroy infrastructures and institutions serving the public.
The MILF is firm in its resolve to settle the legitimate grievances of the Bangsamoro people through the negotiated process now contained in the Comprehensive Agreement on the Bangsamoro.

The different mechanisms of the peace process are still engaged with their esteemed counterparts in government and are working towards finding ways on how best to address the challenge posed by the violence being committed in Marawi by groups who have chosen to take violence without regard to the best interest of our people. Now more than ever, the MILF and the government must work closely to ensure the protection of the gains of the peace process and to even forge with greater resolve to immediately implement the peace agreement so that no other groups may use its non-implementation to justify their continued pursuit of violence for violence’s sake.

The Moro Islamic Liberation Front stands in solidarity with the people of Marawi and Lanao del Sur during this tragic day. We call on our forces to extend all necessary assistance to the people of Marawi to ensure their safety and frustrate the aim of any group or groups to sow divide in our communities. Let us all stand united to win peace for our people.
Wassalamo Alaykom Warahmatullahi Wabarakatuh,

[Wh1stl3r]

Actually, they are making statements but mainstream media arent publishing them. But I do read them in my feeds. Here's a sample of MILF's position on ML

That's a good start, but the statement still makes no mention of the names of the actual group/s involved. Methinks they could do better.

[badkuk]

Me makukuha nga ba silang pondo from ISIS? Didn't Syria/Russia/US already destroy their primary sources of income(smuggled oil, stolen antiquities, slavery, taxes from their territory)?

[uls]

Me makukuha nga ba silang pondo from ISIS? Didn't Syria/Russia/US already destroy their primary sources of income(smuggled oil, stolen antiquities, slavery, taxes from their territory)?

re funding

first let's identify this extremist or fundamentalist form of Islam and which rich and powerful Middle Eastern country/countries back this form of Islam

read about Salafi Islam and/or Wahhabi Islam

then we can connect where the funding comes from

[uls]

re funding

first let's identify this extremist or fundamentalist form of Islam and which rich and powerful Middle Eastern country/countries back this form of Islam

read about Salafi Islam and/or Wahhabi Islam

then we can connect where the funding comes from

re maute-isis

from wikileaks podesta emails

Hillary Clinton knew of Saudi and Qatar funding ISIS

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Graphic Warning: images show religious icons being desecrated.




ISIS thugs in the Philippines TORCH a Catholic Church | Daily Mail Online

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9:35pm · 5 Jun 2017

[anonemus]

This is why Duterte should tread very very carefully with his peace talks with MI and MNLF. If he botches this one, there will be more Mautes in the Bangsamoro areas and beyond. They are more dangerous than the NPA--which is essentially just criminal gangs now posing as revolutionaries.

At the very least, minimize civilian casualties from air raids and stop joking about Martial Law abuses like rape.

Extremists will never be extinguished. There will always be those in the fringes of society. It's a question of reducing or eliminating their supporters.

[Flipo]

From Solita Monsod column:
So why did the government not take notice? Well, Reader, you have to admit that when President Duterte left for Russia, he had in tow both the AFP chief of staff, Gen. Eduardo Año, and the PNP chief, Director General Ronald “Bato” dela Rosa. Obviously, they thought everything was well in hand, and the so-called crisis caught them by surprise. Otherwise, there would have been complete staff work on its implementation at the ready.
Problem of intelligence? Oh, I think the intelligence was there. But I also think that the police and the military are not properly coordinated, and the intelligence people have difficulty communicating with the leadership. Then there is the political problem: When a new dispensation comes in, says Banlaoi, it has to have its “katropa” along. So add to kaibigan, kaklase, kabarilan this new sign of power: katropa. If you are not katropa, your memos don’t mean a thing.

[badkuk]

ang sabi naman ng AFP, 2-3 weeks earlier me natimbrehan na silang mga Maute na pumasok ng Marawi. As to why Ano, Bato, etc. still pushed through with the Russia trip, ewan ko lang.

[ClaNker]

Minority senators: Defense chief said martial law not needed to contain Maute | INQUIRER.net Mobile

Drilon said it was Senator Antonio Trillanes IV, a former navy officer, who asked the Defense Secretary if the government troops could contain the terrorist group without martial law.

“The answer of Secretary Lorenzana was: Yes we can,” he said at a press conference in the Senate attended by fellow opposition senators —Trillanes, Francis Pangilinan, Bam Aquino, and Risa Hontiveros.

Trillanes, in an interview after the press conference, said Lorenzana’s answers were categorical when asked about the necessity of the martial law declaration.

Queue in... "Sinungaling ang mga dilawan na yan!" 😁

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[badkuk]

^ yep, and govt.'s social media arm is too busy peddling fake news to give it much attention

[anonemus]

*mini -- 5 is more than the number of senators than those who opposed Marcos when he declared ML in the 70s.

History favors the right, not necessarily the many

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[badkuk]

The guy doesn't seem to be in a challenging mood since he came back.

[dreamur]

The guy doesn't seem to be in a challenging mood since he came back.

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[Ketib]

Isang bulate na lang hindi naka pirma...

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