Marcos; His reign vs. Noynoy's?

**Monseratto** · April 18th, 2012 10:36 PM

Panahon ni Marcos nag crash yung economy ng Pilipinas, we had to run to the IMF yung early eighties. Remember the time the only car that can be bought was the Lancer Box-Type? The exchange rate bumagsak. Also travel was very restricted. Yung plus lang nakikita ko noon mas kunti ang tao, may existing population control. The NPA and MNLF were nearly licked that time he was booted out... Can't compare Marcos' 21 years rule to Pnoy's 2 years...

**Boy Bastos** · April 18th, 2012 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Monseratto

Panahon ni Marcos nag crash yung economy ng Pilipinas, we had to run to the IMF yung early eighties. Remember the time the only car that can be bought was the Lancer Box-Type? The exchange rate bumagsak. Also travel was very restricted. Yung plus lang nakikita ko noon mas kunti ang tao, may existing population control. The NPA and MNLF were nearly licked that time he was booted out... Can't compare Marcos' 21 years rule to Pnoy's 2 years...

Yep. Zero to negative ang foreign investment at that time kaya.

Hindi ko maintindihan yung iba kung bakit gusto si Marcos. Baka nakinabang? :D

**Monseratto** · April 18th, 2012 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by Boy Bastos

Yep. Zero to negative ang foreign investment at that time kaya.

Hindi ko maintindihan yung iba kung bakit gusto si Marcos. Baka nakinabang? :D

Pamilya ni Chiz Escudero laking pakinabang noon. Mabilis mag-forget ang pinoy kaya di nag aasenso.

**chrismarte** · April 18th, 2012 11:07 PM

ang naalala ko lang bout marcos era eh yung nutrivan at KADIWA .... kung kwento na tatay ko pagbabasehan, maganda daw ang marcos era ang problem lang daw is yung mga asawa, cronies at human rights abuse.... sa flyover daw mas hamak na nirepair na daw yung nagtahan pero yung magallanes di pa.

**admiral88** · April 18th, 2012 11:13 PM

What if si noynoy ang president nun? Do you think he'd be better? No way! Lets say walang kurakot now and then...eh d kay marcos na ko noh!hehe
Eh d dapat may nuclear reactor na tayo, walang brownout which marcos anticipated 20 years ago. Just my 2cents.

**Monseratto** · April 18th, 2012 11:41 PM

People say Marcos did a lot of things. Well, what do you expect from some one held on to power for so long... for many, he was the only president for 21 long years.

**vinj** · April 19th, 2012 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by Monseratto

Panahon ni Marcos nag crash yung economy ng Pilipinas, we had to run to the IMF yung early eighties. Remember the time the only car that can be bought was the Lancer Box-Type? The exchange rate bumagsak. Also travel was very restricted. Yung plus lang nakikita ko noon mas kunti ang tao, may existing population control. The NPA and MNLF were nearly licked that time he was booted out... Can't compare Marcos' 21 years rule to Pnoy's 2 years...

Intersting topic as this was a discussion i had with some people over lunch today. The main point of all old enough to remember and experience Martial Law was a sad "how easy Filipinos forget". And this forgetfulness is getting worse judging by the fact that Erap was almost elected president once more. :thwack:

Marcos was an intelligent person no doubt, had the makings of a great leader and would OWN Noynoy in intellect and oration but alas, what he did to the structures of this country forever changed things. He overempowered the military, took control of wealth and industry for a limited few, and killed the two party political system while he was at it. Debt, increased insurgency and exit of industries followed that all.

I'm too young to know that firsthand but I'm from a family with relatives who were opposing Martial Law from day one, who were blackmailed by the Marcoses, went underground, and with very close family friends who were killed.

The Philippines was second to Japan in the time BEFORE Martial Law.

Try thinking about possibilities of outcomes: if Marcos did good and was not booted out there would be no people power and Cory Aquino presidency and thus, no sentiment when Cory passed on and thus, possibly no Noynoy presidency.

**vinj** · April 19th, 2012 12:12 AM

Originally Posted by Monseratto

Pamilya ni Chiz Escudero laking pakinabang noon. Mabilis mag-forget ang pinoy kaya di nag aasenso.

Yup, crony Yung erpat niya if I remember it correctly.

In my previous work, I have met a good number of individuals as well who were quite moneyed and doing legit business but after some checkings here and there and putting things together, theres a trail of Marcos money. Galeng how they assimilated their wealth into businesses today. It's not far from what the Arroyos and their henchies are doing.

**vinj** · April 19th, 2012 12:18 AM

Originally Posted by Boy Bastos

Yep. Zero to negative ang foreign investment at that time kaya.

Hindi ko maintindihan yung iba kung bakit gusto si Marcos. Baka nakinabang? :D

Perhaps they weren't born yet or were too young to understand? We're a young country on terms of population age so more and more of the voters did not come to experience the full brunt and changes before, during, and after the Marcos years. A lot of the key opposition figures back then are either too old or dead as well.

**jdee12** · April 19th, 2012 12:26 AM

Marcos all the way, madami sa atin akala walang ninakaw si Santa Cory and family, pero tignan natin ang Hacienda,
tgnan niyo na lang po ito: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fb...type=1&theater