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  1. Join Date
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    Wikiality for the win!

    He just did a Chavit. If the Philippines suddenly changes for the good, then we can consider him as a hero.

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    He is a hero to some oppositions...he also admitted that he talked to Ping[Dec.2007] and some oppositions before testifying sa Senake...
    it's a tainted move with vested interests,maybe Ping offered a Cabinet post if they succeded to topple
    the gov't...then he grab the offer... i'm not quite sure but who knows, it's a game politicians play

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    Eh kung si kumag na Chavit hanggang ngayon "hero" sa Erap case... hehehe.

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    just think of this Lozada himself is not considering him a hero.. he just want say what he knows about that scandal...

    we cant blame him for doing that and also we cant blame anybody who is calling him a hero because that the person they see in Mr. Lozada

    About the ombudsman just think of this... every case being handed to the ombudsman is lost in the dust.. i mean all of the previous case and witness where are they now? what happen to the case

    to the fact that the ombudsman are somewhat pro administration
    always segregating and hiding what must the Pilipino community must know..

    Lets just put our situation to Mr. Lozada's position right now... can you handle what he is handling right now...

    can you face & tell the truth as he is doing even if this can be the cause of his & his family's death...

    i know everyone here know how frightening it can be with such a small world to go...

    admit it easier to say but harder to be done

    people just place yourself to where Lozada is now and observe

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpatricks1 View Post
    True but it's not that simple. By telling the truth he is challenging a lot of very powerful people who can very easily have him silenced.

    Hindi madali yung ginawa nya lalo na't pamilyado sya. He took a big risk no just on his life but to his family too.
    actually he has no choice but to speak out. na-feel nya na anytime pwede sya i-liquidate ng mga tao na pinoprotektahan nya. inamin na rin nya na as much as possible eh ayaw nya magsalita sa senado, that is why ang tagal bago sya nagsalita sa senado. kung hindi lang nya na-feel na threatened ang family nya at buhay nya, i doubt kung magsasalita yan.....

    it would be a way out to speak and dumikit sya sa opposition since yan lang ang magagamit nya para maprotektahan nya sarili nya at pamilya nya...

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    Sa tingin ko wala na naman mangyayari jan sa expose ni Lozada. Magiging witch hunt lang yan at ubos pera ng gobyerno. Don't get me wrong mga repapips, I'm against corruption in the government and kapuripuri ang mga kagaya ni Lozada. However, I think it's just a waste of time since we all know na hindi uusad iyan dahil sa mga galamay ni Ginang Arroyo sa Senado, Obudsman and Congress at sa hawak niya sa leeg ang militar. Siguro, mas maganda pa na hintayin nalang natin matapos ang termino niya tutal dalawang taon nalang naman.

    Hirap na din ang mga kababayan natin at pag pinayagan pa natin magkagulo eh baka hindi na umusad ang ating ekonomiya at baka lalo mahirapan ang mga maliliit na tao.

    Kung sa bagay, kung ang boses ng taong bayan at diyos ang masusunod at ang magbibigay lakas sa atin eh wala na tayo magagawa kungdi maki bakas para sa kinabukasan natin.

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    Si Lozada ay isang ganap na "HERO", kuha sa kanta ni Mariah..

    And then a hero comes along
    With the strength to carry on.
    And you cast your fears aside
    And you know you can survive.
    So when you feel like hope is gone.
    Look inside you and be strong.
    And you'll finally see the truth,
    That a hero lies in you. It's a long road,
    When you face the world alone,
    No one reaches out a hand
    For you to hold.
    You can find love,
    If you search within yourself,
    And the emptiness you felt
    Will disappear.
    And then a hero comes along.
    With the strength to carry on
    And you cast your fears aside.
    And you know you can survive.
    So when you feel like hope is gone.
    Look inside you and be strong.
    And you'll finally see the truth,
    That a hero lies in you,

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    Lozada ay isang tunay na "HERO".... kuha sa kanta ni Mariah.

    And then a hero comes along
    With the strength to carry on.
    And you cast your fears aside
    And you know you can survive.
    So when you feel like hope is gone.
    Look inside you and be strong.
    And you'll finally see the truth,
    That a hero lies in you. It's a long road,
    When you face the world alone,
    No one reaches out a hand
    For you to hold.
    You can find love,
    If you search within yourself,
    And the emptiness you felt
    Will disappear.
    And then a hero comes along.
    With the strength to carry on
    And you cast your fears aside.
    And you know you can survive.
    So when you feel like hope is gone.
    Look inside you and be strong.
    And you'll finally see the truth,
    That a hero lies in you,

  9. Join Date
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    Dont forget the "Heroes" of the Original EDSA:

    1) Ramos - daming anomalies during his term
    2) Gringo Honasan - continued to be a rebel even after EDSA
    3) Enrile - many news of corruption before and after EDSA

    Their backs were also up against the wall at that time kaya they had no choice but to fight - and the result was the EDSA revolution.

    Lozada's back is also up against the wall at this point... Some "heroes" were once the worse of their kind...Whether heroes change for the best after their stint as a hero in history, we cant really say though. I wish they did change though... If our heroes of EDSA changed for instance, I think we might have had a much better Philippines.

    Then again, it might not really be dependent on our so called "heroes". If we dont change ourselves - we dont run into public office ourselves, we keep voting questionable personalities to office, we still do so much "lagay", disobey traffic rules, avoid the law, etc, then I guess no significant change will really come to the Philippines, no matter how many "heroes" (or sacrificial lambs) come our way.

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    In fairness to Mr. Lozada hindi nya gusto na tawagin syang hero and doesn't consider himself as a hero. Sinasabi lang daw nya ang sa palagay nya ay nararapat.
    At tayo naman pagwalang kumukontra sa mga kabulukan ng gobyerno, galet tayo. Ngayon meron ng taong nagsasabi kung ano ang baho ng gobyerno, pinag-iisipan pa natin ng masama? Ano ba naman tayo? Sala sa init, sala sa lamig.

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    Quote Originally Posted by froshie1 View Post
    Kung magnakaw ng isang milyon ok lang pag hundreds of millions or billions hindi na?

    Due process ba ang ginagawang pangdinig sa Senado? Baket hindi diretso sa korte ang pangdinig sa kaso na yan?

    yan ang masakit dyan. parang sige jun. ok lang yung kinuha mo. basta lahat ng alam mo e ilabas mo. kay chavit dati ganun din di ba?

    yang sa senado na ma-mind set tuloy mamamayan e.

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Lozada being tagged as a hero can you guys enlighten me.