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View Poll Results: Should political election survey results be banned from going public?

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  • Ok to let survey results to be known

    10 43.48%
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    12 52.17%
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    1 4.35%
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    [SIZE="4"]Should Philippine political election survey results be banned from going public?[/SIZE]



    The argument is that political surveys have become just another propaganda tool for political candidates. A survey done "here" said "this" and another survey done "there" would say the total opposite.

    What is your say?
    Last edited by ghosthunter; April 27th, 2010 at 06:16 PM.

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    They should be allowed its part of democracy. Even in the US (Republicans vs Democrats vs Independents) and other more "MATURED" political systems surveys are very common... Only losers complain of surveys but when has surveys failed in predicting results? Unless super close ng laban na pasok pa sa survey margin of error...

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    Yes, for me.

    For some, surveys are their basis on who are they are voting.

    Kaya if political surveys are stopped, Filipino men, especially the poor can now balance and think about on who should they vote.

    For example ...

    Q : Who will you vote ?
    A : ***********************
    Q : Why ?
    A : Because he's popular. Siya yung top sa surveys, so magaling siya.


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    The argument is that political surveys have become just another propaganda tool for political candidates. A survey done "here" said "this" and another survey done "there" would say the total opposite.

    What is your say?
    I would say if it affects the decision of the people on whom to vote then I guess it should be banned.

    Anyway, I never really trusted those surveys even frrom the past elections. I vote whom I feel is qualified.
    Last edited by Taurus; April 27th, 2010 at 07:41 PM.

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    Has anyone here participated in any of the surveys from SWS, Pulse Asia, etc? Or anyone you knew have participated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Has anyone here participated in any of the surveys from SWS, Pulse Asia, etc? Or anyone you knew have participated?
    My college prof claims to have been part of the survey but that was back in 2004... Perosnally besides him wala na akong kilala...

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    nope! whiner lang at sore loser ang ayaw magpalabas ng survey result or kulelat, if that said candidate is leading, I'm sure hinde lalabas ang issue sa survey results.

    based on the results of the top survey firms, wala pa naman nag contradiction sa results nila eh.

    leading pa rin mga leading, kulelat pa rin ang mga kulelat.
    Last edited by shadow; April 27th, 2010 at 08:31 PM.

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    I would still allow political surveys to be made and the results published if and only if the full process is made transparent (without giving away the identities of the respondents, of course).

    Transparent here means fully disclosing the process used, including the manner of respondent selection and the way the survey was done: was there a questionnaire that needed to be answered? How (i.e., fill-in the blanks, multiple choice, etc).

    I'm sure the people in PulseAsia and SWS are extremely smart. However, without fully disclosing the process, I get suspicious of the accuracy of the whole exercise.

    Case in point: there are around 42,000 barangays in the Philippines. The survey sample size ranges from 1,500 to 2,000 individuals. Heck... not even 5% of the total number of barangays were represented! How could the proponents therefore say that the sampling done is fully representative of the full demographics of the Philippine's voting populace?

    Next... do the questionnaires used reflect the voting scenario? Are these similar to the ballots? Or are questions phrased in a particular way? Are respondents given the questionnaire and left to their own devices to answer... or do the field staff do some sort of briefing while the survey is going on? How can we be sure that the field staff are not doing partisan work in the background?

    Finally... how about inviting an outside entity to do the surveys? As in, a non-Philippine based organization. For all the touted independence of the local survey firms. I'm sure it cannot be disregarded that objectivity is not met 100% of the time... and anything less than 100% objectivity (even if it is 99%) is not good enough. After all, the circles of influence of both survey practitioners and politicians intersect in this country of ours.

    So... my response... continue to allow political surveys to be conducted and the results publicly published only if a totally full disclosure of the process is made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digitalron View Post
    I would still allow political surveys to be made and the results published if and only if the full process is made transparent (without giving away the identities of the respondents, of course).

    Transparent here means fully disclosing the process used, including the manner of respondent selection and the way the survey was done: was there a questionnaire that needed to be answered? How (i.e., fill-in the blanks, multiple choice, etc).

    I'm sure the people in PulseAsia and SWS are extremely smart. However, without fully disclosing the process, I get suspicious of the accuracy of the whole exercise.

    Case in point: there are around 42,000 barangays in the Philippines. The survey sample size ranges from 1,500 to 2,000 individuals. Heck... not even 5% of the total number of barangays were represented! How could the proponents therefore say that the sampling done is fully representative of the full demographics of the Philippine's voting populace?

    Next... do the questionnaires used reflect the voting scenario? Are these similar to the ballots? Or are questions phrased in a particular way? Are respondents given the questionnaire and left to their own devices to answer... or do the field staff do some sort of briefing while the survey is going on? How can we be sure that the field staff are not doing partisan work in the background?

    Finally... how about inviting an outside entity to do the surveys? As in, a non-Philippine based organization. For all the touted independence of the local survey firms. I'm sure it cannot be disregarded that objectivity is not met 100% of the time... and anything less than 100% objectivity (even if it is 99%) is not good enough. After all, the circles of influence of both survey practitioners and politicians intersect in this country of ours.

    So... my response... continue to allow political surveys to be conducted and the results publicly published only if a totally full disclosure of the process is made.

    +1 To this. The entities conducting the survey should likewise disclose who commissioned it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    nope! whiner lang at sore loser ang ayaw magpalabas ng survey result or kulelat, if that said candidate is leading, I'm sure hinde lalabas ang issue sa survey results.

    based on the results of the top survey firms, wala pa naman nag contradiction sa results nila eh.

    leading pa rin mga leading, kulelat pa rin ang mga kulelat.
    Parang si Sen. Gordon, angal ng angal sa mga surveys

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    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    Has anyone here participated in any of the surveys from SWS, Pulse Asia, etc? Or anyone you knew have participated?
    a good question to ask:
    - were you surveyed?
    - do you know or seen anyone anyone been surveyed? except from TV ads and other means of media....
    - as to whom did they conducted the survey(s)?
    - what means of livelihood did they surveyed? why?
    - where do they conduct survey?

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    Surveys may be to serve as also the guideline on how the candidate is doing good in his campaign
    Let not be, the survey, serve as the guideline on whom to vote, do not let be disctated on the survey nor dont vote for a candidate kung sino ang sikat, laging no. 1 sa survey at laging napapanood sa tv, but instead, vote for a candidate whom you believe that will uplift our country and will help resolve our countries conflict immediately.... it is your country, it is our country, it is the country of all our children(s), choose and vote wisely....

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    Surveys may be to serve as also the guideline on how the candidate is doing good in his campaign
    Let not be, the survey, serve as the guideline on whom to vote, do not let be disctated on the survey nor dont vote for a candidate kung sino ang sikat, laging no. 1 sa survey at laging napapanood sa tv, but instead, vote for a candidate whom you believe that will uplift our country and will help resolve our countries conflict immediately.... it is your country, it is our country, it is the country of all our children(s), choose and vote wisely....

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    double post
    my apology

    ikaw ang Simula sa Pagbabago
    VOTE Wisely Pinoy

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    Until the Filipino electorate has been really educated enough to vote responsibly, I think survey results should be banned. We all know that survey results here are not really that scientific and they actually cause confusion among the voters instead of inspiring them to vote wisely and responsibly.

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    Hell Yeah!

    more and more filipinos, of every aspect in life are basing their votes on the survey results.

    well informed, yet still..

    hope charismatic groups such as El shaddai peeps don't cast their votes based on surveys

    abolish the survey, abolish the stupid reasoning

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    http://www.journal.com.ph/index.php/...w-surveys.html

    TWO top survey firms – Pulse Asia and Social Weather Stations – are packed with relatives of Sen. Noynoy Aquino, casting doubt on the credibility of the surveys conducted by the two agencies.

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    As long as there will be an established watch dog to determine if the surveys are indeed scientific and not rigged. Filipinos still vote for their preference, only a few are "strategic" voters, (those who vote according to trends).

    I for one is a combination of strategic/conscience voter. I usually have 2-3 preference for president but decide later based on what I see and hear in the media and surveys. Bandwagon effect is really part of the campaign dynamics, you can never really count that out.

    My top 3 choices for President are as follows Aquino, Teodoro and Gordon. But since the imminent risk/threat of another Erap or worse Villar presidency is very likely, I'd sacrifice conscience vote to favor Strategic vote.

    Aquino is my strategic vote
    Gibo is my conscience vote
    Gordon if I only use my mind and analyze the credentials

    In the end, the right to information is universal and absolute. Surveys are information too. How you use or interpret it is another thing.
    Last edited by daimengrui; May 4th, 2010 at 03:06 PM.

Should political election survey results be banned from going public?