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    #1401
    Quote Originally Posted by H1Tman View Post
    Para magtayo ka ng sariling partido, kailangan pera. Maraming pera.
    Magtatayo ng bagong partido para ma please yung mga ayaw sa LP wow ha. Lol.

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    BAKIT KA BA GALIT SA LP?
    Liberal Party nga ba ang dahilan ng pagkalugmok ng bansa? Tandaan nating si Marcos ay namumuno ng 21 years. In 1965 noong una siyang naging presidente,
    tumakbo siya sa ilalim ng Nacionalista Party. In 1965 ang pinili na kandidato ng LP for president was Pres. Diosdado Macapagal who was running for reelection. Tinalo ni Marcos si Macapagal at nanalo ulit siya in his 1969 reelection bid against Sergio Osmena Jr of the Liberal party. So yong first 8 years ni Marcos na supposed to be matatapos in 1973 ay under Nacionalista party. Pero in 1972 nagdeklara na siya ng martial law at bumuo ng partido na Kilusang Bagong Lipunan (KBL). Ito yong partido niya sa buong martial law years na puro lutong macao ang election dahil sa walang katapusang dayaan So ang NP/KBL ay may total na 21 years ng pamununo.

    In 1986, ang LP ay sumama sa coalition na Unido/PDP Laban na tinakbuhan ni Cory for President in the 1986 snap election. Si Marcos was running under KBL. I voted for Cory-Doy Laurel. Excited ako dahil from 1972 onward, boykot ako. It was my first time to vote.

    In 1992 tumakbo si Imelda Marcos for president under KBL pero ang LP candidate ay si Jovito Salonga at vice president niya si Nene Pimentel. Tinalo sila ni Fidel Ramos na tumakbo under LAKAS-NUCD at ang nanalong Vice Pres ay si Joseph Estrada under NPC na ang kandidato for president ay si Danding Cojuangco. In this fight, the closest candidate na nakalaban ni Ramos ay si Miriam Santiago under People's Reform Party. Sinampahan niya ng kaso ng pandaraya si Ramos pero dinismiss ito ng Supreme Court. I voted for Salonga-Pimentel. For me sila ang best tandem dahil parehong makabayan.

    In 1998 ang kandidato ng LP for President ay si Alfredo Lim at vice niya si Serge Osmena. Natalo sila ni Joseph Estrada who run under her newly formed LAMMP party which was of course supported by Marcos. Ang nanalo for VP ay si Gloria Arroyo under Lakas na ang kandidato for Pres was Jose de Venecia. Ang termino ni Estrada na dapat until 2004 pa ay naputol dahil sa EDSA2 in 2001 at pumalit si Gloria Arroyo as president until 2004. I voted for Alfredo Lim-Osmena.

    In the 2004 election walang kandidato ang LP. Nanalo si Gloria Arroyo under Lakas-Kampi at VP niya si Noli de Castro. First time in post martial law era na galing sa iisang partido ang presidente at VP niya. Pero ito yong pinakadikit na labanan for president. Tinalo ni Arroyo si Fernando Poe Jr of KNP by the slimmest of margin since the Ramos vs Santiago close fight in 1992.
    Si Arroyo ang ibinoto ko at the last minute for the simple reason na ayaw kong manalo si FPJ. Pero ang first choice ko ay si Raul Roco kaso nagslowdown sa kampanya dahil sa sakit niya. Kaya malayo na siya sa mga huling survey. Nagsisisi ako sa botong yon.

    In 2010, LP fielded Noynoy Aquino for President. He won but Roxas lost as VP to Jejomar Binay of UNA. Comebacking Joseph Estrada became Aquino's closest rival which was a shocking development. Ang inaakala ng marami ay si Manny Villar ang magiging kalaban ni Aquino dahil palagi itong nangunguna sa mga survey. Siempre Aquino-Roxas ako.

    In 2016, LP fielded Mar Roxas for Pres and Leni Robredo for VP. Roxas lost for President but Robredo won as VP. Rodrigo Duterte won for Pres under PDP-Laban.

    Summary:
    In short hindi LP ang dahilan ng pagkalugmok at paghihirap ng bansa. Kung ano man ang kalagayan ngayon, iba-bang klaseng pamumuno ang dahilan. Maliwanag na ang LP President ay iisa lang, si Noy Aquino. Noy's term as president was considered the best years ever if we base it on all economic indicators and world competitive indexes. Cory Aquino also has some trace of LP dahil officially ang LP was part of the 1986 UNIDO/PDP Laban coalition. Both Aquinos are the only presidents na walang isyu ng katiwalian o pandarambong. Si Ramos may Centennial Park at PEA-Amari issue. Si Erap, alam na natin yong jueteng at Velarde account. Si Arroyo PDAF at Jose Pidal issue. Si Cory kahit isang isyu ng pangungurakot, wala. Si Pnoy wala rin. Yong DAP issue was more on the constitutionality ng programa. Sabi ng Supreme Court it was unconstititional but done in good faith. Ginamit kasi yong savings para palakasin ang ekonomiya after ng Yolanda devastation. Kinurakot daw ang Yolanda? Kahit isang kaso walang naisampa laban diyan. Katunayan nakakuha sila ng clearance sa mga government agencies sina Roxas, Aquino at Soliman at nakapagretire ng maayos at nakuha ang kanilang pension. Katunayan na malinis sila. At may extra fund pa na ginamit ni Duterte sa rehab ng Marawi.

    Pinasasama lang ang imahe ng LP ng mga fake news na sinadyang pinapapakalat sa pamamagitan ng social media. Halatang fully funded ang demolition squad laban sa LP to the point na pati si Leni Robredo ay tumakbong independent para lang madis-associate sa LP. Ganon kasama ang epekto ng fake news sa bansa natin. Ang mahuhusay at magagaling pilit na pinapasama. Ang mga palpak ay pilit na pinapabango.
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    ^^ thanks for the very detailed & informative history lesson sir!

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    #1404
    copy paste yata yan

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    #1405
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    copy paste yata yan
    Ah of from where?

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    copy paste yata yan
    Yes, just like a copy paste from newspaper !

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsmobile View Post
    Ah of from where?
    i dunno

    he has a habit of not using quote/quote/
    Last edited by uls; April 26th, 2022 at 10:06 PM.

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    #1408
    new Laylo survey results

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    #1409
    Expected. Laging may lumalabas after a big pink rally. screenshot_20220426_221909.jpg

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    #1410
    Last 2 minutes! Last 2 minutes!

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    #1411
    LOLz! Trolling the tiger and eagle's campaign HQ.


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    #1412
    Quote Originally Posted by bugsmobile View Post
    Ah of from where?
    Bro from FB opposition page.

    Sorry naunahan ng langaw!

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    differrent hindsights on the Jillian Robredo Baguio incident https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...robredo+baguio




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    #1414
    Quote Originally Posted by kagalingan View Post
    tama nga naman si alex. Bakit kayo nagrereklamo sa survey pag hindi pabor sa inyo. Buti kung parang purefoods vs tagay ito na niluluto talaga ni alfrancis.... but the universe corrected it.

    Maging genuine kasi kayo tsikoteers. Tingnan nyo ako = physically type ko luhgaw, nasasarapan ako croissant, bunwich, walnut brownies dunkin donut kaso phaseout na. Mga delawan yan pero hindi ko pinepersonal.

    Kayo malaman nyo makaduterte isang business eh jinudge nyo na pati lasa. Biglang hindi na masarap.

    Kaya kita nyo bakit maangas ako kahit pandemic kasi im real.

    Eh kayo emotional na nga nagbubulag-bulagan pa. Kadikit ng malas yan
    Because as some political analyst and "experts" said, this survey does not reflect what's on the ground and is seen on rallies.

    The surveys lack that angle which makes this surveys questionable.

    Kung ceteris paribus, pwede talagang ganyan ang lamang. Kaso sila nga hindi din ma-explain fully eh. Tayo pa kaya na hindi expert dyan.

    Hopeful in a sense lang mga kalaban ni BBM, yes si MP at Ping at Isko nga umaasa din na hindi totoo survey eh, though tingin ko si Isko lang malakas loob re dyan. Kaya intindihin niyo kung bakit hindi ganun tinatanggap agad.

    And mind conditioning is a major part of revisionism. What better way to convince you to vote for someone na nangunguna. Many people like winners and llamado.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Because as some political analyst and "experts" said, this survey does not reflect what's on the ground and is seen on rallies.

    The surveys lack that angle which makes this surveys questionable.

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    Rallies: reasons why people goes to rallies; free concerts of different artistas, some claimed 'trabaho lang', also not all are registered voters (some are below 18)

    Surveys: SWS, Pulse, Publicus, Laylo, Tangere, Octa Research, etcs, it would be difficult to bribe all these firms if we are going to that thinking. Surveys have methodologies, for example, Cebu has more voting population percentage, so surveyors will survey more voters in these places than other provinces depending on percentage.

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    #1416
    Aftermath of Ace Durano's last-minute decision to support the BBM-Sara ticket. Did not even have time to replace the pink streamers.


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    Hihi kanino kayang rally yung may pasobre at nag uwian pagkatapos magperform nung rapper.

    Pag inggit pikit. [emoji58]

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    Rallies: reasons why people goes to rallies; free concerts of different artistas, some claimed 'trabaho lang', also not all are registered voters (some are below 18)
    sa bbm rallies oo they need to hire celebrities to make people wanna attend pero kahit na... hirap na hirap parin sila mag draw ng crowd

    sa leni rallies ramdam mo ung enthusiasm gusto nila mag attend

    ung mga artista / bands volunteer yata

    maari people wanna go for the party atmosphere pero i think those will translate into votes

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    #1419
    Almost all surveys lamang si BBM, ilang days nalang para bumawi si Leni. Kelangan kumatok ng triple,if laging binabalewala yan ng kampo ni Leni, malamang talunan sa huli. May stastician siguro Si VP Leni, Im sure marami din mahilig sa Numbers mga tsikot members dito.

    Sa family lahat kami professional
    Father BBM
    Mother BBM
    2brother BBM
    1 sister Leni
    Me Leni
    Wife BBM

    Mahirap I convince mga Ilocano Voter na pumunta ke Leni

    I tried once
    Twice, baka magkasamaan lang ng loob. So be it.

    Hopefully maraming BBM voter na tamarin sa eleksyon


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    #1420
    It's the hope that kills you.

Leni Robredo, The Vice President