Lack of Pilots forces PAL to cancel flights

[shadow]

hinde ko maintindihan sa mga cabin crews kung bakit sumasabay pa sila sa mga pilots? I mean if nasa CBA nila na 40 yrs old and retiring age then bakit ayaw nilang sundin? pinirmahan nila yun eh AFAIK hinde pa expired yun CBA nila

kung baligtarin yun situation management ang mag demand na meron silang gustong baguhin sa CBA, papayag ba sila kahit hinde pa expired yun CBA?

saka nabasa ko sa isang business gossip na kaya nagiingay yun leader ng mga FA, dahil maramina gustong mag reklamo sa mga bagong FAs.

monopolized ng mga old timers and mga long haul flight/international since mas mataas ang per diem, ang gusto ng managemnt i-mix ang crew sa mga long haul old timers and new comers para magkaroon ng experience yun mga bago, pero ayaw ng mga old timers. kaya kaplastikan ginagawa ng mga officers ng mga FA

[jimnyeatworld]

yan din mali sa ginawa nila. kahit pa panget pamamalakad ng management sana nag resign sila ng maayos. para din wala ng magawa pa yung PAL since walang problema sa resignation na ginawa nila.

very true. ni hindi nila man lang inisip yun mga cancelled flights. i'm sure may karma din yan ginawa nila. wag masyado puro kabig, mayroon ka din responsibility sa kapwa mo

[CVT]

monopolized ng mga old timers and mga long haul flight/international since mas mataas ang per diem, ang gusto ng managemnt i-mix ang crew sa mga long haul old timers and new comers para magkaroon ng experience yun mga bago, pero ayaw ng mga old timers. kaya kaplastikan ginagawa ng mga officers ng mga FA

Tama lang na bigyan ng opportunity ang mga bago to earn bigger salaries by flying the international route.

Hindi puro damats na suplado at ma-ere pa....

Nakapag-file na ba sila sa labor ng Notice of Strike?

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[Monseratto]

Sagot ni Noynoy sa threat of strike ng mga FAs ng PAL ang open skies policy. Magiging free for all na mga local routes. Mas magiging kawawa yung mga employees ng PAL since mga foreign carriers ang competitors nila, level playing field na...

[sugoi_yats]

sabi ng FA ng PAL na ka***mate...este katextmate ko, ang sweldo daw ng FA sa PAL is about 20k per flight pag local...50k per flight naman pag international (selected countries).

In other airlines like Singapore Airlines, 70k to 80k per flight daw..kaya maraming FA ng PAL gusto magapply sa ibang airlines.

info lang po...

[chua_riwap]

sabi ng FA ng PAL na ka***mate...este katextmate ko, ang sweldo daw ng FA sa PAL is about 20k per flight pag local...50k per flight naman pag international (selected countries).

In other airlines like Singapore Airlines, 70k to 80k per flight daw..kaya maraming FA ng PAL gusto magapply sa ibang airlines.

info lang po...

Eh malaki naman din pala income nila, bakit mag-strike pa.........



http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/business/...-notice-strike

PAL flight attendants file notice of strike


MANILA, Philippines - The Flight Attendants and Stewards Association of the Philippines (FASAP) filed a notice of strike with the Department of Labor and Employment on Thursday.

FASAP Vice-President Andy Ortega said the group's 1,600 members are expected to join the strike.

The notice of strike was filed after FASAP failed to reach a compromise agreement with Philippine Airlines' management during mediation talks at the National Conciliation and Mediation Board last August 9.

FASAP withdrew from the talks after PAL refused to change its policies on mandatory retirement age and on maternity and pregnancy leaves.

Labor Secretary Rosalinda Baldoz earlier said that after a notice of strike is filed, it will take 30 days for a cooling off period to still look for a settlement.

"Once we go on strike, no flight will take off," said Bob Anduiza, president of FASAP.

"This will ground PAL's entire operations," he told a news conference.

PAL spokeswoman Cielo Villaluna appealed to the union to reconsider and return to the negotiating table.

"This will affect Philippine tourism and our financial position," Villaluna said in a radio interview, noting that the country's tourism sector has already taken a blow from the August 23 Manila hostage crisis.

But contrary to FASAP's claim, Villaluna said PAL's flights will not be disrupted if the strike pushes through. She said they are ready for contingencies.

The cabin staff are seeking a raise that would put their pay on par with that offered by foreign carriers. They are also demanding paid maternity leave and an end to a company policy that forces female attendants to retire at the age of 40.

There was no immediate comment from the labor department.

The planned strike is the latest in a string of labor problems to hit the national flag-carrier. Last month, 25 pilots and first officers of PAL's short-haul aircraft suddenly quit for higher paying jobs abroad, forcing the abrupt cancellation of several flights. With additional report by Agence France Presse

[_Cathy_]

sabi ng FA ng PAL na ka***mate...este katextmate ko, ang sweldo daw ng FA sa PAL is about 20k per flight pag local...50k per flight naman pag international (selected countries).

In other airlines like Singapore Airlines, 70k to 80k per flight daw..kaya maraming FA ng PAL gusto magapply sa ibang airlines.

info lang po...

50k to serve coffee, tea or juice!??! I would understand the high salary of pilots because it is a highly skilled job but FAs??? No offense meant to our FA tsikoteers but what's their premium. Their job isn't exactly rocket science.

I know many CPAs who work their ass off daily and get less than 40k per MONTH.

[elijahpaul]

*sugoi_yats

lols. san mo nakuha yang info na yan? hahaha! obviously niloloko ka lang ng texmate mo. FA = flight attendant, not pilot.

[boybi]

What will happen to passengers who already booked flights with PAL once they go on strike?

[shadow]

kaya pa ba mag strike ng mga FAs? hinde kaya sila sumpungin ng mga rayuma.

[niky]

They're not all geriatric. My cousin's fiance is an FA, and she's nowhere near as ancient as us.

Eh malaki naman din pala income nila, bakit mag-strike pa.........p

The point is not the amount per se... it's the fact that PAL is underpaying them compared to the competition.

Of course... if they do really want proper pay, they might as well just leave and go to those other airlines. This is just a negotiating tactic... but one that may go very badly for them... they're not as indispensable as pilots...

[safeorigin]

competition in capitalism is not solely limited to products but workers too

[ghosthunter]

50k to serve coffee, tea or juice!??! I would understand the high salary of pilots because it is a highly skilled job but FAs??? No offense meant to our FA tsikoteers but what's their premium. Their job isn't exactly rocket science.

I know many CPAs who work their ass off daily and get less than 40k per MONTH.

It's not that they are getting paid an X amount of money. It is about what the other companies are paying their staff for the same work.

Example:

Airline AA pays 40K/month.
Airline BB pays 70K/month.
Airline CC pays 75K/month.
Airline DD pays 65K/month.
Airline EE pays 73K/month.

All for the same job.

The staff at airline AA can negotiate for a higher comparable pay or they just look for someone else to hire them. Why settle for a lower pay when you can get more for the same job?

It is not the amount one gets as compared to the statistical average pay of the rest of society that is important. What is important is what the other company pays their staff who does the same work as you.

[_Cathy_]

I do get that PAL's FAs are supposedly paid below or lower than industry standards. I just think in general, FAs, for very little skill, are getting paid very high compared to other industries.

PAL FAs should at least be happy that they are based in Manila. I guess that is the trade off for the lower salary. If they want a higher salary then go work for other airlines. Puro sila reklamo eh pinagbigyan na nga sila sa older retirement age

[_Qwerty_]

mali naman yata yung info na 50K per flight ang mga FAs.. ano yan malaki pa kita sa mga piloto??

[ghosthunter]

I do get that PAL's FAs are supposedly paid below or lower than industry standards. I just think in general, FAs, for very little skill, are getting paid very high compared to other industries.

PAL FAs should at least be happy that they are based in Manila. I guess that is the trade off for the lower salary. If they want a higher salary then go work for other airlines. Puro sila reklamo eh pinagbigyan na nga sila sa older retirement age

The pilots already did go work for another airline.

Don't be surprised if and when you see a sudden in-flow of newbie FAs on your next flight on PAL. Of course, don't expect the same level of service that you might be expecting.

[leonleon]

I do get that PAL's FAs are supposedly paid below or lower than industry standards. I just think in general, FAs, for very little skill, are getting paid very high compared to other industries.

Hindi lang naman sila waiters/waitresses inside an airplane.

Taken from:

http://careerplanning.about.com/od/o...ght_attend.htm



A Day in a Flight Attendant's Life:
On a typical day a flight attendant will:

• get briefed by the captain on emergency evacuation procedures, coordination of the crew, the length of the flight, expected weather conditions, and special issues having to do with passengers;
• make sure that first-aid kits and other emergency equipment are aboard and in working order;
• assess the passenger cabin to make sure there are adequate supplies of food, beverages, and blankets;
• greet passengers as they enter the plane, check their tickets, and tell them where to store their coats and carry-on bags ;
• instruct passengers in the use of emergency equipment;
• check to see that passengers' seat belts are fastened, seats are in the upright position, and bags are properly stowed prior to takeoff;
• help passengers in the event of an emergency;
• reassure passengers in the event of turbulence;
• direct passengers if they must evacuate the plane if there is an emergency landing;
• answer questions about the flight;
• distribute blankets, pillows, and reading material;
• distribute beverages, snacks, and sometimes heat and serve meals;
• help those needing assistance, e.g. small children, or elderly or disabled passengers;
• administer first aid to ill patients;
• take inventory of headsets, alcoholic beverages, and money collected prior to landing;
• report passengers' medical problems, lost and found articles, and condition of cabin equipment;
• sometimes, if in a supervisory position, oversee the work of the other attendants aboard the aircraft;

[ghosthunter]

Hindi lang naman sila waiters/waitresses inside an airplane.

I guess mababa ang tingin ni Cathy sa mga FAs.

[safeorigin]

stereotyping is easier and more practical

[jimnyeatworld]

i'm surprised FA's only get 50K ang baba kasi whether we like it or not, it's still a hazardous job riding planes all the time.