Japan vs china...

[niky]

Is Taiwan part of china?

It's a sovereign state that China has been bullying the UN into not recognizing as an independent country.

Hmm no nukes please or we're all dead. I can't side with Japan. They raped our women during the war and killed so many. I can't side with china since they are killing us economically. USA can't do anything because they owe so much. What to do? Let's pray for peace instead.

Let's side with the Chinese Communist government that has killed and persecuted millions in cultural purges, which is why so many Fil-Chis fled here to the Philippines.

Or let's side with the Americans who subjugated us and denied us freedom for decades after buying the country from the Spanish, killing thousands of Filipinos in war?

If you dig back in time, everyone has wronged everyone else. The problem is, the people who did the wronging and who ordered these things are all long dead.

Well, except for those who ordered the Tianamen Square massacre. They're still around.

I'd rather side with a now democratic and non-hostile Japan than an expansionist, bullying China.

[gsprimetime]

Yes china is bullying us. So let's beat them n kill them. That's the answer. Let's have war. ....really?

[jon777]

Yes china is bullying us. So let's beat them n kill them. That's the answer. Let's have war. ....really?

The Chinese navy killed 70 vietnamese sailors near the Paracel islands in the 1980's because both countries claim the Paracel islands. Let Japan teach China a lesson in bullying

Unless you want Filipino sailors killed in the future....

[stickers]

As Monseratto says, nuking China is a pretty dumb idea.

Note that the Chinese people are mostly innocent. I've met a lot of mainlanders, and they're sheep. Since Chinese censors and indoctrination are very strong, they really believe that the Philippines and Japan are the ones trying to go to war with China, not the other way around.

Thats how the Chinese see it. Of course self righteous yung decisions nila.. we just protect what's ours based on UNCLOS, a law where majority of the nations has agreed (including China). The problem with them is they want to own all islands near (and far away). That's the first step in global domination.. small islands now.. the rest of the world tomorrow.

Yes china is bullying us. So let's beat them n kill them. That's the answer. Let's have war. ....really?

War is always imminent. It's mankind's nature.

[Monseratto]

Hope em Chinese don't read the wrong signals and start looting Ford and GM showrooms...

Alaska F-22s deployed to Pacific even as tensions escalate between China, Japan
Ben Anderson | Sep 18, 2012

Alaska’s fleet of F-22 fighter jets and their elite pilots have been deployed to an airbase in the Pacific U.S. territory of Guam, according to officials at Joint Base Elmendorf-Richardson in Anchorage. The deployment has been planned for some time, but happens to coincide with a period of escalating tension in the Pacific Theater, as Japan and China dispute who has the rights to a set of uninhabited, resource-rich islands.

A press release sent out Monday night from JBER said that the F-22 Raptors were deployed to Andersen Air Force Base in Guam, located nearly 2,000 miles from China. According to public affairs officer Capt. Ashley Conner, it is the first time since January of 2011 that the F-22s have been deployed to the region, and is part of a series of rotations that began in 2009.

“This deployment is the second F-22 Pacific Command theater deployment since 2011,” Conner said. “The F-22s from Langley AFB, Virginia were the first to deploy. It is a rotational deployment that signifies a continued commitment to regional stability and security and allows our units to become familiar with operating in the Pacific theater.”

The move to the Pacific is interesting in light of the heightened tension between Japan and China, originating from a dispute over what the Japanese call the Senkaku Islands and the Chinese refer to as the Diaoyu Islands. While some of the debate revolves around the fishing waters around the islands -- China launched a 1,000-fishing-vessel fleet over the weekend -- that’s not the real issue.

"These islands are just tiny little rocks in the ocean, not inhabitable, so the land itself is not really the point," said Dr. Paul Dunscomb, a professor of East Asian history at the University of Alaska Anchorage. "But the ocean territories and the seabed resources around the islands are very much the point, in particular oil and gas and minerals."

The F-22s based out of Langley are currently stationed in Kadena, Japan, very close to the islands in question. The U.S. has a security treaty with Japan which would obligate military intervention should the situation escalate, but Conner said that this most recent deployment is entirely unrelated the situation.

“These deployments are a prudent measure to maintain a credible deterrent posture and presence in the region and not in response to any specific situation,” Conner said. “This deployment is just resuming the F-22 deployment rotation.”

Still, given the close scrutiny on the situation in the Pacific and China and Japan’s long history of distrust, the timing of the move is intriguing. According to Dunscomb, bad blood remains in China over the occupation of that country by Japanese forces for about a half-century beginning in the late 19th century and ending with World War II. Dunscomb said that hard feelings about atrocities committed by the Japanese during those years have been etched into the national consciousness of China.

Alaska F-22s deployed to Pacific even as tensions escalate between China, Japan | Alaska Dispatch

[pop3corn]

China is not communist, China is socialist. We're all socialists in a sense. coz all we want is the improvement of our country and countrymen.

China is bullying this region bec she feels that the US is not up to the challenge in policing the world. So she's taking her claim as the eastern hemisphere superpower.

Natatakot ako talaga sa US. That red neck who released the anti-Muslim video - that only makes the prophecy true - that a tactical nuke will be exploded in the US rural region. This is a full-scale religious fundamentalist war ladies and gents. Alam naman natin that rural America contains the most fundamentalist Christians in the world.

And when this happens, magkarun ng power vacuum, it'll be free for all and for China sayang ang progress nya. That's why siguro she's trying to secure our rregion.

I tell you if the worst of the worst happens, at nagkaputukan ang Arabs and White Race. We're all gonna need to unite as Asians to protect our way of life. Coz these 2 warring races, they wouldn't give a rats ass in dragging us to that conflict.

Kaya tama Lang na mag armaments race na tayo bec of China then pag nag - shooting war na yan two ancient races of the world - well be united as neutral but has the resolve to fight back if provoked.

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[gsprimetime]

Just my opinion. US needs war to survive. They earn from war. US owes China and can't pay. So china makes war with other country. Other country buys weapons from US. US earns and pays China. pera pera lang.

[gsprimetime]

Is Taiwan part of china?

[Flip]

Is Taiwan part of china?

AFAIK, Taiwan is also china a.k.a republic of china or ROC but its territories are occupied and governed by ousted rivals of the party governing mainland china a.k.a. peoples republic of china or PRC. both are claiming to be the one and only china, aka one china policy. mukang stalemate tong dalawang to dahil malakas din yung taiwan, maraming allies kasama ata japan at ready lumaban in case puwersahin ng mas malaki at bulling PRC ang reunification. wondering kung ano kaya iniisip ng ROC ngayon?

[gsprimetime]

Money controls the world. China made a mistake with Pinas. Wala pala tayo pera. So is Japan nalang.
China always threatens. The country buys. In our case we get "donations" pero ang kapalit more loans for us.
Kala ng china si Malaysia papalag mas may pera yun.

Do you think car prices would go up? Should I buy now or wait.

[gsprimetime]

Cool lets keep the Japanese and get all the Chinese . Maski dito sila may ari ng mga businesses.

[niky]

Again, why persecute the Chinese people? They're not doing anything wrong. Am I against the regime in Beijing? Totally.

But am I against Chinese? Nope.

Some of my best friends are Fil-Chi.

My grandmother was put in a concentration camp by the US Government. Am I against Americans? Of course not. I'm an American, and my relatives there are all half-white.

Why generalize the sins of a few as the sins of all those who live in a country?

[stickers]

Again, why persecute the Chinese people? They're not doing anything wrong. Am I against the regime in Beijing? Totally.

But am I against Chinese? Nope.

Some of my best friends are Fil-Chi.

My grandmother was put in a concentration camp by the US Government. Am I against Americans? Of course not. I'm an American, and my relatives there are all half-white.

Why generalize the sins of a few as the sins of all those who live in a country?

We don't actually generalize all chinese, but we all know that we only refer to those active in bullying fellow asian countries, those who are demonstrating against Japan, and those government leaders who pave this path of destruction.

Come to think of it, in case Japan pulls out his factories in China, this may open economic opportunities in other parts of Asia (including RP).

The question is, how will the world live without "Made in China" goods?

[pop3corn]

We don't actually generalize all chinese, but we all know that we only refer to those active in bullying fellow asian countries, those who are demonstrating against Japan, and those government leaders who pave this path of destruction.

Come to think of it, in case Japan pulls out his factories in China, this may open economic opportunities in other parts of Asia (including RP).

The question is, how will the world live without "Made in China" goods?

Na Sun Tzu kse ng America ang China eh, wala naman pera sa industrialization, Money is in R&D. Now that China is experiencing exponential growth - I call it the China bubble. The made in china goods will no longer be cheap anymore. Eh pano na, ano bang Chinese brand name ang kilala sa mundo. At least when Japan peaked at gumrabe ang inflation sa Tokyo,, they have given to the world toyota, Nissan, Honda, toshiba, Sony, Panasonic, Casio. talo pa nga ng Sokor ang China eh, at Least Korea has samsung, hyundai, lg.

ginamit Lang natin ang china for cheap goods, but as economic superpower capable of suppling world class products and names -paktay sila talaga.

Kaya siguro ganyan yan eh, nam-bubully na Lang. kahit ano pa ituro nila ideology sa citizenry nila, kapag yan mga nakitikim ng ng sarap at ginhawa at luho yan mga Chinese mismo ang mag-aklas sa sarili nila govt. All we have to do is sit down and observe them rip their country to pieces. Kaya siguro desperate ang military nila to pick a fight against anyone, coz ano yun eh delaying the inevitable - create an atmosphere of patriotism / nationalism so that it's citizenry will not turn against themselves.

Kaya Lang lumang tugtugin na yan, Kawawa ang China, sya ang live example ng isang wall street bubble mangyari sa isang country. Kaya I pity them and I dont even buy this crap everyday that China is a superpower and we should all be afraid. It's the other way around

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[safeorigin]

China isn't ready yet. Give it a year or two. Their military research is at blazing pace at the moment. Even faster than western counterparts. example: The SAC's "F-60" mockup went in public last year. Almost a year later(4 days ago), the actual prototype(J-31) is leaked.

You can tell, they're getting ready for an armsrace. The only field they are considered lagging behind is their domestic fighter engine. They still rely on older Soviet era turbines because Russia refused to sell them the relatively newer AL-41 knowing they'll just "copy" them much like how they "copied" the Su-30MKK and turned them into J-15. Of course, they got away with it by changing the panel cuts...

So far, China already has AESA radars installed in their J-11's years ago so I doubt they are technologically inferior.

Well, the Chinese doctrine relies heavily on redundant radars and SAMs. IIRC, they call it shashoujian or “assassin’s mace”.

[pop3corn]

Again, why persecute the Chinese people? They're not doing anything wrong. Am I against the regime in Beijing? Totally.

But am I against Chinese? Nope.

Some of my best friends are Fil-Chi.

My grandmother was put in a concentration camp by the US Government. Am I against Americans? Of course not. I'm an American, and my relatives there are all half-white.

Why generalize the sins of a few as the sins of all those who live in a country?

Kakabadtrip naman king minsan kse mainlanders eh lagi surmisingit sa pila ni Mickey mouse photo op saka mga rides, as in pansinin nyo talaga. Tapos dun sa jungle cruise, meron na nga pila para sa English, saka 2 Chinese languages eh nakikipila pa sa min mga pinoy and whites, kase nga maikli Lang pila sa English tour guide.

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[roninblade]

Hmm no nukes please or we're all dead. I can't side with Japan. They raped our women during the war and killed so many. I can't side with china since they are killing us economically. USA can't do anything because they owe so much. What to do? Let's pray for peace instead.

that's a little backward thinking there, dont you think?. that war is long over, japan lost. they paid for it by losing 2 cities to atom bombs, and having their entire economy destroyed. it's not worth bringing in to the current picture.

china is not killing us economically. we do not directly compete with their production power. in fact their growth suggests that pretty soon income in china will rise enough that companies will start looking for cheaper labor in countries like vietnam.

Money controls the world. China made a mistake with Pinas. Wala pala tayo pera. So is Japan nalang.
China always threatens. The country buys. In our case we get "donations" pero ang kapalit more loans for us.
Kala ng china si Malaysia papalag mas may pera yun.

Do you think car prices would go up? Should I buy now or wait.

wrong again. its not about money. it's about resources. china only started claiming those japanese islands when it was surveyed to possibly contain oil and gas reserves. it is also the reason everybody is claiming the small tracts of land in the south china sea. china needs these resources to sustain future growth.

[gsprimetime]

that's a little backward thinking there, dont you think?. that war is long over, japan lost. they paid for it by losing 2 cities to atom bombs, and having their entire economy destroyed. it's not worth bringing in to the current picture.

china is not killing us economically. we do not directly compete with their production power. in fact their growth suggests that pretty soon income in china will rise enough that companies will start looking for cheaper labor in countries like vietnam.



wrong again. its not about money. it's about resources. china only started claiming those japanese islands when it was surveyed to possibly contain oil and gas reserves. it is also the reason everybody is claiming the small tracts of land in the south china sea. china needs these resources to sustain future growth.

I know they want to control resources. Who ever has resources has power and "money". So it is about money.

China is not killing us economically? Where have you been? How many factories were closed down. How many farmers lost due to Chinese imports. Oh sorry only the poor got affected. Look around you. How many made in Philippines have you bought? By the way China is not the cheapest in labor.

[roninblade]

I know they want to control resources. Who ever has resources has power and "money". So it is about money.

China is not killing us economically? Where have you been? How many factories were closed down. How many farmers lost due to Chinese imports. Oh sorry only the poor got affected. Look around you. How many made in Philippines have you bought? By the way China is not the cheapest in labor.

nope, money is not the end goal. growth and power is. money is just a by product. ;)

[gsprimetime]

Peace bro.