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    There are those who argue that poll surveys are rigged by the sponsoring party/candidate and therefore should not be given consideration in deciding who to vote.

    That was also what I thought during the campaign period for the 1998 presidential elections. I was for Roco and voted for Roco, who now resembles Gordon. however, the poll surveys reflected the outcome of the elections. in 2004, the same thing happened, what the surveys say reflected the outcome of the election. In other words, poll surveys are helpful for us to decide and vote wisely...A Gordon vote is an intelligent vote, but is not a wise vote since doing so will only help the presidential bid of Villar...Vote Wisely...Vote for Noynoy as President....

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    What if I don't want either Noynoy or Villar to win?

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    I'm sorry but how it will help the presidential bid of Villar? :confused:

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    So if hypothetically the results of a survey is like this?

    Nicky Perlas - 46%
    Jamby Madrigal - 9%
    the rest would share the 45%


    are you telling me that you would not vote kasi sa survey wala nang habol ang kahit sinong kandidato? ganun? that is utterly wrong man! that is not intelligent and that is not WISE!

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    i think he meant one vote for Gordon is one less vote for Aquino, which favors Villar

    if people don't want Villar to become president, people should vote for only one candidate running against Villar

    all anti-Villar votes should go to only 1 candidate to make sure Villar doesnt win

    if votes against Villar is spread out among too many presidential candidates, it will only favor Villar
    Last edited by uls; February 17th, 2010 at 06:24 PM.

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    In other words, poll surveys are helpful for us to decide and vote wisely.
    ano yan?

    join the bandwagon?

    kung sino ang number 1 sa surveys, siya ang iboboto ng mga undecided voters on election day?

    ang decision ng mga voters naka-depend sa resulta ng surveys?

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    Because a vote for Gordon isn't a vote for Noynoy... and only Noynoy can beat Villar, supposedly.

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    malayo pa eleksyon, magbabago pa ang survey..... watch and wait lang muna then decide kapag eleksyon na.....

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    For me if i choose...I go for the candidate who made a good track record...hindi dahil sa umaatend ng session sa senate eh pwede na? We have to look for the contribution of the candidate to the society.


    Ang mayaman, lalong magpapayaman...
    Ang nambobola, lolokohin lang tayo habang buhay...
    Ang nangingitlog ay manok...gusto ba natin sa manok?

    Kaya vote wisely...yong may kakayahan na humawak ng responsibilidad...

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    Quote Originally Posted by badsekktor View Post
    malayo pa eleksyon, magbabago pa ang survey..... watch and wait lang muna then decide kapag eleksyon na.....
    Yup current surveys were taken even before the actual start of the official campaign period last Feb 9th. The current "top" candidates are there due to early campaigning TV ads, or the hype from the death of former pres Cory. The surveys will still change once voters learn more and more about the candidates as they campaign around the country.

    Now if it was a neutral survey, taken a week or two from the election date, then yes, it's worth considering, but not the ones out now. If voters "give-up" their votes based on these early surveys, then why do we wait pa for May 2010 to hold the elections? Why still give these candidates 90 days to legally campaign around? Ngayon nalang, habang may epekto pa yung mga nag-early campaign and TV ads, etc.

    With campaign TV ads hopefully properly regulated, Villar's edge will be reduced, and expect his rating to go down in time as well. It's everyone's guess if Noynoy's lead, taken from the hype of the former pres Cory's death will survive the 90 day campaign period. We all know it is already going down.

    Ultimately, the survey that would really count is the May 2010 elections. Give your candidates the chance to campaign properly, (to hopefully neutralize the race, against early campaigning jingle/music video filled TV ads), then campaign and vote for your choice for president. We all still have a choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras View Post
    There are those who argue that poll surveys are rigged by the sponsoring party/candidate and therefore should not be given consideration in deciding who to vote.

    That was also what I thought during the campaign period for the 1998 presidential elections. I was for Roco and voted for Roco, who now resembles Gordon. however, the poll surveys reflected the outcome of the elections. in 2004, the same thing happened, what the surveys say reflected the outcome of the election. In other words, poll surveys are helpful for us to decide and vote wisely...A Gordon vote is an intelligent vote, but is not a wise vote since doing so will only help the presidential bid of Villar...Vote Wisely...Vote for Noynoy as President....
    CORRECT masasayang lang ang vote mo kung iboboto mo si gordon bro eddie,gibo etc kasi ang maglalaban si noynoy & villar ano pipiliin mo noynoy na di corrupt na nag aattend sa session ng senate ginagawa niya trabaho niya bilang senator or villar puro gastos na ginagamit ang mahihirap na kung di niya naging asawa si c.aguilar magiging bilyonaryo ba siya sa pagtitinda sa palenke?senator palang si villar di na niya ginagawa trabaho niya bilang senator sa 45 sessions 15 lang attendance niya late pa siya ng 12 times tapos kapag C5 ang pinaguusapan nagtatago siya yan ba dapat maging president???kapag naging president si villar 100% babawiin niya nagastos niya ngayon palang 2 billion na gastos niya mas kawawa ang pinoy kapag si villar mas masahol pa k GMA

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamsapple View Post
    CORRECT masasayang lang ang vote mo kung iboboto mo si gordon bro eddie,gibo etc kasi ang maglalaban si noynoy & villar ano pipiliin mo noynoy na di corrupt na nag aattend sa session ng senate ginagawa niya trabaho niya bilang senator or villar puro gastos na ginagamit ang mahihirap na kung di niya naging asawa si c.aguilar magiging bilyonaryo ba siya sa pagtitinda sa palenke?senator palang si villar di na niya ginagawa trabaho niya bilang senator sa 45 sessions 15 lang attendance niya late pa siya ng 12 times tapos kapag C5 ang pinaguusapan nagtatago siya yan ba dapat maging president???kapag naging president si villar 100% babawiin niya nagastos niya ngayon palang 2 billion na gastos niya mas kawawa ang pinoy kapag si villar mas masahol pa k GMA
    So we're supposed to support Noynoy? A guy who doesn't have the charisma or leadership skills of his father?

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by attyallanlatras View Post
    There are those who argue that poll surveys are rigged by the sponsoring party/candidate and therefore should not be given consideration in deciding who to vote.

    That was also what I thought during the campaign period for the 1998 presidential elections. I was for Roco and voted for Roco, who now resembles Gordon. however, the poll surveys reflected the outcome of the elections. in 2004, the same thing happened, what the surveys say reflected the outcome of the election. In other words, poll surveys are helpful for us to decide and vote wisely...A Gordon vote is an intelligent vote, but is not a wise vote since doing so will only help the presidential bid of Villar...Vote Wisely...Vote for Noynoy as President....
    i need an advice atty. what if i don't want noynoy to win? what shall i do?

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    #14
    Aquino is a weakling

    he's just being used by his party

    if he becomes president, he will just be a puppet

    the govt will be run by Roxas and other party members and private sector allies

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    those "intelligent voters" back in '04 who voted for GMA bec she was the "intelligent vote" that time, are also the ones who are so against her now...

    not so intelligent now are we?

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    intelligent voters voted for GMA?

    hahahah! i beg to differ sir. that was a dubious win for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Haruto View Post
    intelligent voters voted for GMA?

    hahahah! i beg to differ sir. that was a dubious win for her.

    I guess you didn't see the ( " " ) before and after the words intelligent voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AnK View Post
    those "intelligent voters" back in '04 who voted for GMA bec she was the "intelligent vote" that time, are also the ones who are so against her now...

    not so intelligent now are we?
    Korek. And those who voted her then cited her intelligence, long list of achievements as DSWD secretary, DTI secretary, no. of bills, resolutions passed and enacted into law, etc. She, Marcos and Erap are proof that a track record are no guarantees for making a good president. Maybe the height also has something to do w/ it. Napoleonic perhaps?

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    #19
    vote wisely

    vote intelligently

    whatever

    as if there are really any good choices out there

    they're all the same

    it's just choosing the lesser evil

Intelligent Vote vs. Wise Vote