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    #301
    Bakit ang mga ministro na tumitiwalag at kumakalaban ay nagtatago at natatakot para sa kanilang buhay at mga pamilya? Napapa-isip lang kasi ako.. Kung ganyan sila mag-isip ibig sabihin may hindi katinuan ang damage control na alam nilang gagawin ng INC para patahimikin sila? Parang gusto ko nang maniwala sa isang kaibigan kong INC noong HighSchool na sinasabi nyang may mga armas/armory ang mga ito na itinatago sa kanilang mga kapilya na kung kinakailangan eh magagamit nila kapag nagkagipitan?

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    #302
    kaya kaliwa't kanan ang pagtatayo ng mga sariling churches/fellowships places.

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    #303
    Quote Originally Posted by ChoyJo View Post
    Bakit ang mga ministro na tumitiwalag at kumakalaban ay nagtatago at natatakot para sa kanilang buhay at mga pamilya? Napapa-isip lang kasi ako.. Kung ganyan sila mag-isip ibig sabihin may hindi katinuan ang damage control na alam nilang gagawin ng INC para patahimikin sila? Parang gusto ko nang maniwala sa isang kaibigan kong INC noong HighSchool na sinasabi nyang may mga armas/armory ang mga ito na itinatago sa kanilang mga kapilya na kung kinakailangan eh magagamit nila kapag nagkagipitan?
    Maraming hitman members INC, at protected sila ng mga INC officials na pinuwesto nila sa gobyerno in exchange for their block vote support. Judiciary, police, military, LTO, media, atbp. They are required to protect, support, and help each other. Kaya nga mga INC applicant sa trabaho laging nakalagay relihiyon nila sa resume, hoping na may ranking INC member sa inaaplayan nila that will guarantee their hiring.

    Kaya takot mga members to go against INC, wala silang panalo. Yung sinasampahan nila ng kaso, kahit trump up charges, aalagaan ng INC judges para mangyari ang gusto ng simbahan nila. Kaya nga sinampahan nila ng kaso yung nag speak up na ministro nila ng libel, their INC judge will railroad the case in behalf of their church.

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    #304
    May comment na ba si Bro. Eli Soriano regarding this 'INC trouble'? Interesado akong malaman =)

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Si madjal, si miles, at yung radz ata. Pero inactive na sila.
    Bro. Hindi ako IGlesia, supplier AKO Sa IGlesia.. Sa totoo Lang ang daming puro kwentong barbero dito... Yung kay ka Jun santos Lang... Hindi daw tumatangap Ng less than 10% that's Bull ****..Sobrang straight ng taong yan.. At isa pa.. Hindi Yan kumakausap ng supplier... Pres. Nga ng pilipinas kailangan pang makipag appointment sakanya... Tapos isang internet bully nakapag deal Sakanya?

    Bakit hindi nyo subukan mag offer ng products nyo? Para Malaman nyo na mga straight ang tao Sa Purchasing... Subukan nyo mag abot Kahit ball pen... Sa head na si ka caloy.. Ball pen Lang inaabot ko at nawalan ng tinta ballpen nya wag daw... Then after, I was given a total of 20 P.O. ---- Ni singko Wala akong inabutan.. Sa Pag issue ng P.o. Pag deliver ng Unit, Hangang Sa pag released ng check wala.. Ni pahapyaw wala... Pag naka salubong ko pa Sa labas... Umiiwas pang makipag usap...

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    #306
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Bro. Hindi ako IGlesia, supplier AKO Sa IGlesia.. Sa totoo Lang ang daming puro kwentong barbero dito... Yung kay ka Jun santos Lang... Hindi daw tumatangap Ng less than 10% that's Bull ****..Sobrang straight ng taong yan.. At isa pa.. Hindi Yan kumakausap ng supplier... Pres. Nga ng pilipinas kailangan pang makipag appointment sakanya... Tapos isang internet bully nakapag deal Sakanya?

    Bakit hindi nyo subukan mag offer ng products nyo? Para Malaman nyo na mga straight ang tao Sa Purchasing... Subukan nyo mag abot Kahit ball pen... Sa head na si ka caloy.. Ball pen Lang inaabot ko at nawalan ng tinta ballpen nya wag daw... Then after, I was given a total of 20 P.O. ---- Ni singko Wala akong inabutan.. Sa Pag issue ng P.o. Pag deliver ng Unit, Hangang Sa pag released ng check wala.. Ni pahapyaw wala... Pag naka salubong ko pa Sa labas... Umiiwas pang makipag usap...
    Ok na sana ang kwento.

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    #307
    sabi ni angel manalo kanina sa tv patrol "may standard na abuloy" ang iglesia. sa bunganga talaga nahuhuli ang isda.

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    #308
    Ayan na. Nagalit na si Glenn. Natigil na nga ni Pnoy yun pinagkakakitaan sa judiciary eh pati ba naman sa INC mawawala pa. [emoji23].

    Joke Lang Glenn ha. [emoji111]🏼

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    #309
    COMMENTARY: Congress and the Iglesia ni Cristo | Opinion | GMA News Online

    Payagan man ng admin ng INC, will the members speak?

    Kita mo naman mga nag vigil sa labas ng mansjon nakatago identity ang laki ng takot nila matiwalag.


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    #310
    Doctor: Bayad. Pag ok trabaho, gagaling ka.
    Pag palpak trabaho, puwede ka lagpak sementeryo.

    Abogado: Bayad ka. Pag ok trabaho, puwede ka iwas preso.
    Pag palpak trabaho, tuloy ka preso.

    Clergy: Abuloy. Pag ok trabaho, di mo alam kung tuloy sa langit.
    Pag palpak trabaho, di mo rin alam kung impiyerno ang tuloy.

    So mas ok clergy.

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    #311
    Success ba yun anniv nila?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Si madjal, si miles, at yung radz ata. Pero inactive na sila.
    INC na ko because of wifey. Pinipilit kong i-apreciate yung INC pero di ko talaga ma appreciate yung ibang turo nila. Wala namang kaso sakin kung sa Catholic church ako nag sisimba o sa iglesia ang importante sakin nakakapag dasal ako sa Diyos. Based on my observation sa mahigit 1 year kong pagiging INC. Talagang napaka loyal nila sa pamamahala pag magaling manalangin ang ministro umiiyak sila habang nananalangin. Kung ako tatanungin kung cult ba INC? Obviously Yes. I feel sorry sa mga die hard na mga INC napapansin ko kahit mahirap lang sila anlaki nila magbigay ng abuloy. Pero if you will look naman sa brightside ng INC dahil din sa turo nila madami ding matitino at mababait na INC especially yung family ng wifey ko. Saka namamamgha ako sa ganda ng kapilya nila saka kung pano sila sumamba mas feel ko yung kanta kasi madaming Choir na nakanta sabayan pa ng pipe organ..

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    #313
    If this is true, people should calling it Iglesia ni manalo, and start calling it Iglesia ni Santos.
    https://iglesianicristoneverkeepsile...om-the-church/

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    #314
    Quote Originally Posted by Syuryuken View Post
    sabi ni angel manalo kanina sa tv patrol "may standard na abuloy" ang iglesia. sa bunganga talaga nahuhuli ang isda.
    Hindi totoo yan.

    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ayan na. Nagalit na si Glenn. Natigil na nga ni Pnoy yun pinagkakakitaan sa judiciary eh pati ba naman sa INC mawawala pa. [emoji23].

    Joke Lang Glenn ha. [emoji111]🏼
    Sama mo na yung credible na may ari ng hacienda binay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BratPAQ View Post
    If this is true, people should calling it Iglesia ni manalo, and start calling it Iglesia ni Santos.
    https://iglesianicristoneverkeepsile...om-the-church/
    Someone did some research

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    Quote Originally Posted by JJ All Day View Post
    St. Peter (32-67)
    St. Linus (67-76)
    St. Anacletus (Cletus) (76-88)
    St. Clement I (88-97)
    St. Evaristus (97-105)
    St. Alexander I (105-115)
    St. Sixtus I (115-125) Also called Xystus I
    St. Telesphorus (125-136)
    St. Hyginus (136-140)
    St. Pius I (140-155)
    St. Anicetus (155-166)
    St. Soter (166-175)
    St. Eleutherius (175-189)
    St. Victor I (189-199)
    St. Zephyrinus (199-217)
    St. Callistus I (217-22) Callistus and the following three popes were opposed by St. Hippolytus, antipope (217-236)
    St. Urban I (222-30)
    St. Pontain (230-35)
    St. Anterus (235-36)
    St. Fabian (236-50)
    St. Cornelius (251-53) Opposed by Novatian, antipope (251)
    St. Lucius I (253-54)
    St. Stephen I (254-257)
    St. Sixtus II (257-258)
    St. Dionysius (260-268)
    St. Felix I (269-274)
    St. Eutychian (275-283)
    St. Caius (283-296) Also called Gaius
    St. Marcellinus (296-304)
    St. Marcellus I (308-309)
    St. Eusebius (309 or 310)
    St. Miltiades (311-14)
    St. Sylvester I (314-35)
    St. Marcus (336)
    St. Julius I (337-52)
    Liberius (352-66) Opposed by Felix II, antipope (355-365)
    St. Damasus I (366-84) Opposed by Ursicinus, antipope (366-367)
    St. Siricius (384-99)
    St. Anastasius I (399-401)
    St. Innocent I (401-17)
    St. Zosimus (417-18)
    St. Boniface I (418-22) Opposed by Eulalius, antipope (418-419)
    St. Celestine I (422-32)
    St. Sixtus III (432-40)
    St. Leo I (the Great) (440-61)
    St. Hilarius (461-68)
    St. Simplicius (468-83)
    St. Felix III (II) (483-92)
    St. Gelasius I (492-96)
    Anastasius II (496-98)
    St. Symmachus (498-514) Opposed by Laurentius, antipope (498-501)
    St. Hormisdas (514-23)
    St. John I (523-26)
    St. Felix IV (III) (526-30)
    Boniface II (530-32) Opposed by Dioscorus, antipope (530)
    John II (533-35)
    St. Agapetus I (535-36) Also called Agapitus I
    St. Silverius (536-37)
    Vigilius (537-55)
    Pelagius I (556-61)
    John III (561-74)
    Benedict I (575-79)
    Pelagius II (579-90)
    St. Gregory I (the Great) (590-604)
    Sabinian (604-606)
    Boniface III (607)
    St. Boniface IV (608-15)
    St. Deusdedit (Adeodatus I) (615-18)
    Boniface V (619-25)
    Honorius I (625-38)
    Severinus (640)
    John IV (640-42)
    Theodore I (642-49)
    St. Martin I (649-55)
    St. Eugene I (655-57)
    St. Vitalian (657-72)
    Adeodatus (II) (672-76)
    Donus (676-78)
    St. Agatho (678-81)
    St. Leo II (682-83)
    St. Benedict II (684-85)
    John V (685-86)
    Conon (686-87)
    St. Sergius I (687-701) Opposed by Theodore and Paschal, antipopes (687)
    John VI (701-05)
    John VII (705-07)
    Sisinnius (708)
    Constantine (708-15)
    St. Gregory II (715-31)
    St. Gregory III (731-41)
    St. Zachary (741-52) Stephen II followed Zachary, but because he died before being consecrated, modern lists omit him
    Stephen II (III) (752-57)
    St. Paul I (757-67)
    Stephen III (IV) (767-72) Opposed by Constantine II (767) and Philip (768), antipopes (767)
    Adrian I (772-95)
    St. Leo III (795-816)
    Stephen IV (V) (816-17)
    St. Paschal I (817-24)
    Eugene II (824-27)
    Valentine (827)
    Gregory IV (827-44)
    Sergius II (844-47) Opposed by John, antipope
    St. Leo IV (847-55)
    Benedict III (855-58) Opposed by Anastasius, antipope (855)
    St. Nicholas I (the Great) (858-67)
    Adrian II (867-72)
    John VIII (872-82)
    Marinus I (882-84)
    St. Adrian III (884-85)
    Stephen V (VI) (885-91)
    Formosus (891-96)
    Boniface VI (896)
    Stephen VI (VII) (896-97)
    Romanus (897)
    Theodore II (897)
    John IX (898-900)
    Benedict IV (900-03)
    Leo V (903) Opposed by Christopher, antipope (903-904)
    Sergius III (904-11)
    Anastasius III (911-13)
    Lando (913-14)
    John X (914-28)
    Leo VI (928)
    Stephen VIII (929-31)
    John XI (931-35)
    Leo VII (936-39)
    Stephen IX (939-42)
    Marinus II (942-46)
    Agapetus II (946-55)
    John XII (955-63)
    Leo VIII (963-64)
    Benedict V (964)
    John XIII (965-72)
    Benedict VI (973-74)
    Benedict VII (974-83) Benedict and John XIV were opposed by Boniface VII, antipope (974; 984-985)
    John XIV (983-84)
    John XV (985-96)
    Gregory V (996-99) Opposed by John XVI, antipope (997-998)
    Sylvester II (999-1003)
    John XVII (1003)
    John XVIII (1003-09)
    Sergius IV (1009-12)
    Benedict VIII (1012-24) Opposed by Gregory, antipope (1012)
    John XIX (1024-32)
    Benedict IX (1032-45) He appears on this list three separate times, because he was twice deposed and restored
    Sylvester III (1045) Considered by some to be an antipope
    Benedict IX (1045)
    Gregory VI (1045-46)
    Clement II (1046-47)
    Benedict IX (1047-48)
    Damasus II (1048)
    St. Leo IX (1049-54)
    Victor II (1055-57)
    Stephen X (1057-58)
    Nicholas II (1058-61) Opposed by Benedict X, antipope (1058)
    Alexander II (1061-73) Opposed by Honorius II, antipope (1061-1072)
    St. Gregory VII (1073-85) Gregory and the following three popes were opposed by Guibert ("Clement III"), antipope (1080-1100)
    Blessed Victor III (1086-87)
    Blessed Urban II (1088-99)
    Paschal II (1099-1118) Opposed by Theodoric (1100), Aleric (1102) and Maginulf ("Sylvester IV", 1105-1111), antipopes (1100)
    Gelasius II (1118-19) Opposed by Burdin ("Gregory VIII"), antipope (1118)
    Callistus II (1119-24)
    Honorius II (1124-30) Opposed by Celestine II, antipope (1124)
    Innocent II (1130-43) Opposed by Anacletus II (1130-1138) and Gregory Conti ("Victor IV") (1138), antipopes (1138)
    Celestine II (1143-44)
    Lucius II (1144-45)
    Blessed Eugene III (1145-53)
    Anastasius IV (1153-54)
    Adrian IV (1154-59)
    Alexander III (1159-81) Opposed by Octavius ("Victor IV") (1159-1164), Pascal III (1165-1168), Callistus III (1168-1177) and Innocent III (1178-1180), antipopes
    Lucius III (1181-85)
    Urban III (1185-87)
    Gregory VIII (1187)
    Clement III (1187-91)
    Celestine III (1191-98)
    Innocent III (1198-1216)
    Honorius III (1216-27)
    Gregory IX (1227-41)
    Celestine IV (1241)
    Innocent IV (1243-54)
    Alexander IV (1254-61)
    Urban IV (1261-64)
    Clement IV (1265-68)
    Blessed Gregory X (1271-76)
    Blessed Innocent V (1276)
    Adrian V (1276)
    John XXI (1276-77)
    Nicholas III (1277-80)
    Martin IV (1281-85)
    Honorius IV (1285-87)
    Nicholas IV (1288-92)
    St. Celestine V (1294)
    Boniface VIII (1294-1303)
    Blessed Benedict XI (1303-04)
    Clement V (1305-14)
    John XXII (1316-34) Opposed by Nicholas V, antipope (1328-1330)
    Benedict XII (1334-42)
    Clement VI (1342-52)
    Innocent VI (1352-62)
    Blessed Urban V (1362-70)
    Gregory XI (1370-78)
    Urban VI (1378-89) Opposed by Robert of Geneva ("Clement VII"), antipope (1378-1394)
    Boniface IX (1389-1404) Opposed by Robert of Geneva ("Clement VII") (1378-1394), Pedro de Luna ("Benedict XIII") (1394-1417) and Baldassare Cossa ("John XXIII") (1400-1415), antipopes
    Innocent VII (1404-06) Opposed by Pedro de Luna ("Benedict XIII") (1394-1417) and Baldassare Cossa ("John XXIII") (1400-1415), antipopes
    Gregory XII (1406-15) Opposed by Pedro de Luna ("Benedict XIII") (1394-1417), Baldassare Cossa ("John XXIII") (1400-1415), and Pietro Philarghi ("Alexander V") (1409-1410), antipopes
    Martin V (1417-31)
    Eugene IV (1431-47) Opposed by Amadeus of Savoy ("Felix V"), antipope (1439-1449)
    Nicholas V (1447-55)
    Callistus III (1455-58)
    Pius II (1458-64)
    Paul II (1464-71)
    Sixtus IV (1471-84)
    Innocent VIII (1484-92)
    Alexander VI (1492-1503)
    Pius III (1503)
    Julius II (1503-13)
    Leo X (1513-21)
    Adrian VI (1522-23)
    Clement VII (1523-34)
    Paul III (1534-49)
    Julius III (1550-55)
    Marcellus II (1555)
    Paul IV (1555-59)
    Pius IV (1559-65)
    St. Pius V (1566-72)
    Gregory XIII (1572-85)
    Sixtus V (1585-90)
    Urban VII (1590)
    Gregory XIV (1590-91)
    Innocent IX (1591)
    Clement VIII (1592-1605)
    Leo XI (1605)
    Paul V (1605-21)
    Gregory XV (1621-23)
    Urban VIII (1623-44)
    Innocent X (1644-55)
    Alexander VII (1655-67)
    Clement IX (1667-69)
    Clement X (1670-76)
    Blessed Innocent XI (1676-89)
    Alexander VIII (1689-91)
    Innocent XII (1691-1700)
    Clement XI (1700-21)
    Innocent XIII (1721-24)
    Benedict XIII (1724-30)
    Clement XII (1730-40)
    Benedict XIV (1740-58)
    Clement XIII (1758-69)
    Clement XIV (1769-74)
    Pius VI (1775-99)
    Pius VII (1800-23)
    Leo XII (1823-29)
    Pius VIII (1829-30)
    Gregory XVI (1831-46)
    Blessed Pius IX (1846-78)
    Leo XIII (1878-1903)
    St. Pius X (1903-14)
    Benedict XV (1914-22) Biographies of Benedict XV and his successors will be added at a later date
    Pius XI (1922-39)
    Pius XII (1939-58)
    St. John XXIII (1958-63)
    Paul VI (1963-78)
    John Paul I (1978)
    St. John Paul II (1978-2005)
    Benedict XVI (2005-2013)
    Francis (2013—)

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    JJ andyan. di mo lang siguro nakita. apat pa sila. from St. Felix The Winner I to St. Felix The Winner IV. i thought no single detail shall pass unnoticed by the amlc. ;)

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    Narinig ko rin to dun sa naging kasambahay ng isang kaibigan. 200 pesos kada samba so 400 a week at 1,600 per month. Yung sahod nya buwan buwan 4k lang. Kung totoo yung executive planes at corruption, eh kamot ulo ka nalang.

    Quote Originally Posted by radz15 View Post
    INC na ko because of wifey. Pinipilit kong i-apreciate yung INC pero di ko talaga ma appreciate yung ibang turo nila. Wala namang kaso sakin kung sa Catholic church ako nag sisimba o sa iglesia ang importante sakin nakakapag dasal ako sa Diyos. Based on my observation sa mahigit 1 year kong pagiging INC. Talagang napaka loyal nila sa pamamahala pag magaling manalangin ang ministro umiiyak sila habang nananalangin. Kung ako tatanungin kung cult ba INC? Obviously Yes. I feel sorry sa mga die hard na mga INC napapansin ko kahit mahirap lang sila anlaki nila magbigay ng abuloy. Pero if you will look naman sa brightside ng INC dahil din sa turo nila madami ding matitino at mababait na INC especially yung family ng wifey ko. Saka namamamgha ako sa ganda ng kapilya nila saka kung pano sila sumamba mas feel ko yung kanta kasi madaming Choir na nakanta sabayan pa ng pipe organ..
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    Narinig ko rin to dun sa naging kasambahay ng isang kaibigan. 200 pesos kada samba so 400 a week at 1,600 per month. Yung sahod nya buwan buwan 4k lang. Kung totoo yung executive planes at corruption, eh kamot ulo ka nalang.

    Quote Originally Posted by radz15 View Post
    INC na ko because of wifey. Pinipilit kong i-apreciate yung INC pero di ko talaga ma appreciate yung ibang turo nila. Wala namang kaso sakin kung sa Catholic church ako nag sisimba o sa iglesia ang importante sakin nakakapag dasal ako sa Diyos. Based on my observation sa mahigit 1 year kong pagiging INC. Talagang napaka loyal nila sa pamamahala pag magaling manalangin ang ministro umiiyak sila habang nananalangin. Kung ako tatanungin kung cult ba INC? Obviously Yes. I feel sorry sa mga die hard na mga INC napapansin ko kahit mahirap lang sila anlaki nila magbigay ng abuloy. Pero if you will look naman sa brightside ng INC dahil din sa turo nila madami ding matitino at mababait na INC especially yung family ng wifey ko. Saka namamamgha ako sa ganda ng kapilya nila saka kung pano sila sumamba mas feel ko yung kanta kasi madaming Choir na nakanta sabayan pa ng pipe organ..

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    #318
    how do they monitor if tama nga ang tithing na binibigay mo based on your income?

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    Quote Originally Posted by beginnerz View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord View Post
    Narinig ko rin to dun sa naging kasambahay ng isang kaibigan. 200 pesos kada samba so 400 a week at 1,600 per month. Yung sahod nya buwan buwan 4k lang. Kung totoo yung executive planes at corruption, eh kamot ulo ka nalang.



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    Narinig ko rin to dun sa naging kasambahay ng isang kaibigan. 200 pesos kada samba so 400 a week at 1,600 per month. Yung sahod nya buwan buwan 4k lang. Kung totoo yung executive planes at corruption, eh kamot ulo ka nalang.
    e sa kaibigan ko $20 per attend..e twice sila sumasamba per week..and family of 5...so $200/week

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