Impeachment against CJ Corona..

[tsupermario]

totoo yan kasi tina-galog lang naman nun Farinas yun speech niya kaya madali intindihin ng common Pinoys, yun speech kasi nun defense lawyer in english but it's pretty convincing. He said Corona is never tried for ill-gotten wealth or for treason. though it may seem that Corona now has 2.4M and 80M respectively, still it needs to be proven if it is ill-gotten, and he committed treason like US multinational corporations paid him money for favorable decisions.

yun kay Erap impeachment kasi maliwanag na sinabi ni Chavit nun kumukuha sila ng payola sa jueteng with bagmen etc. dito there is the money, but where did it come from? imho, to convict him now would be premature.

we cannot just judge Corona based on the fact that he admitted he has millions. senators have millions, some presidential advisers have millions. what the prosecution needs to do is to prove if its ill-gotten.

there is actually a law that says that whenever a gov't official has acquired money or property disproportionate to his salary or his other lawful income shall be presumed to have illegally acquired it. so what happens is, it is the gov't official that should explain why he has that much money or properties.

[Retz]

Today is judgement day.

[piscesboy]

Today is judgement day.

ano oras ba malalaman result kung guilty or not guilty?
gusto ko guilty yung result pero feeling ko ma-acquit tong si CJ.
opinyon lang

[glenn manikis]

Why CJ Corona is definitely a threat to PNoy and his clan?

-November 22, 2011, the Supreme Court ordered the distribution of Hacienda Luisita.

-January 24, 2012, Supreme Court promulgated decision affirming the Sandiganbayan antigraft court’s decision awarding to the government the 24-percent San Miguel Corp. (SMC) shares that were bought with coconut levy funds also required the government to use its share only for the benefit of the farmers and the coconut industry.

These and many more decisions were promulgated by the SC under the leadership of CJ Corona. These decisions are patently against PNoy and his clan.

Keep CJ Corona out and all these SC decisions will be reversed.

History repeats itself.

During the time of Marcos, the Cojuancos were under fire. When Cory became President, the Cojuancos find solace.
This solace continued during the time of Pres. Ramos, an ally of Cory.
During the time of PGMA, the Cojuancos were again under fire. PNoy run for President to save his family. PNoy won. But contrary to his belief, the Judiciary behaved not in the manner that it did during his mom's time.
If a new CJ would be appointed, the Cojuancos would again find solace and this solace will be maintained for another six years should another ally of the Cojuancos win as President.

Come to think of it, my dear TSIKOTEERS... We have been fooled once, twice... shall we allow ourselves to be fooled again?

[greenlyt]

Why CJ Corona is definitely a threat to PNoy and his clan?

-November 22, 2011, the Supreme Court ordered the distribution of Hacienda Luisita.

-January 24, 2012, Supreme Court promulgated decision affirming the Sandiganbayan antigraft court’s decision awarding to the government the 24-percent San Miguel Corp. (SMC) shares that were bought with coconut levy funds also required the government to use its share only for the benefit of the farmers and the coconut industry.

These and many more decisions were promulgated by the SC under the leadership of CJ Corona. These decisions are patently against PNoy and his clan.

Keep CJ Corona out and all these SC decisions will be reversed.

History repeats itself.

During the time of Marcos, the Cojuancos were under fire. When Cory became President, the Cojuancos find solace.
This solace continued during the time of Pres. Ramos, an ally of Cory.
During the time of PGMA, the Cojuancos were again under fire. PNoy run for President to save his family. PNoy won. But contrary to his belief, the Judiciary behaved not in the manner that it did during his mom's time.
If a new CJ would be appointed, the Cojuancos would again find solace and this solace will be maintained for another six years should another ally of the Cojuancos win as President.

Come to think of it, my dear TSIKOTEERS... We have been fooled once, twice... shall we allow ourselves to be fooled again?

hahaha funny, it seems na kapag ang decision is against Pnoy si corona ang dahilan PERO pag ang decision si favoring GMA or PAL management corona has only one vote and cannot influence the decision of SC
so ano ba talaga?

[c_cube]

hahaha funny, it seems na kapag ang decision is against Pnoy si corona ang dahilan PERO pag ang decision si favoring GMA or PAL management corona has only one vote and cannot influence the decision of SC
so ano ba talaga?

sabi niya nga nun una sa interview niya regarding hacienda luisita, na isang boto lang naman siya.

pero yun nagsalita siya nun unang beses na pumunta siya sa IC, siya na ang dahilan ng pagbigay nun HL sa magsasaka... DUH!

[gearhead000]

During the time of Marcos, the Cojuancos were under fire. When Cory became President, the Cojuancos find solace.
This solace continued during the time of Pres. Ramos, an ally of Cory.
During the time of PGMA, the Cojuancos were again under fire. PNoy run for President to save his family. PNoy won. But contrary to his belief, the Judiciary behaved not in the manner that it did during his mom's time.
If a new CJ would be appointed, the Cojuancos would again find solace and this solace will be maintained for another six years should another ally of the Cojuancos win as President.

Qualify ko lang yan. Not all Cojuangcos were under fire during Marcos' time. It was during his time nga that Danding flourished and benefitted from the Coco levy funds. It doesn't automatically mean din naman that once mapalitan ang CJ, eh maging pabor na mga desisyon para sa admin.

Be that as it may, though I believe the CJ isn't up to the high standards of his current position... the verdict can still go either way. kasi kung 16 to convict nga... kahit maka-15 acquitted pa rin.

sabi niya nga nun una sa interview niya regarding hacienda luisita, na isang boto lang naman siya.

pero yun nagsalita siya nun unang beses na pumunta siya sa IC, siya na ang dahilan ng pagbigay nun HL sa magsasaka... DUH!

napanood ko nga yan. sabi nya sa mga HL farmers, tinaya daw nya buhay nya para sa kanila.

[Retz]

ano oras ba malalaman result kung guilty or not guilty?
gusto ko guilty yung result pero feeling ko ma-acquit tong si CJ.
opinyon lang

cguro mga 5pm na kasi mag explain pa ng desisyon isa-isa ang mga honorable senator judges.

[glenn manikis]

MATAGAL na... wag lang sana magapang.....

[Altis6453]

Talagang maraming matutuwa sa SC pag na-acquit si CJ. Pwede na lahat mag-convert to dollar deposits. Exempt na sa SALN.

[renzo_d10]

Pag na-acquit yan, kukunin na siya ng Star Cinema. Epektib na epektib daw kasi ang acting. :hysterical:

[shadow]

I strongly think he will be convicted, kahit bondying si pnoy, u just can't disobey what the president want.

Nakausap na mga senators ng malacanang even mirriam or those perceived to be against the palace.

We all know how politics works,

[glenn manikis]

Why CJ Corona must not be convicted by the Senate?

1. On the issue of bias decisions in favor of CGMA:

CJ Corona is entitled only to one vote. The decisions of the Supreme Court cannot be attributed to one justice alone owing to its nature of being a collegial body. Nonetheless, if voting patterns is considered, there are far more decisions of the court in which CJ Corona did not vote in favor of GMA than those favorable to the former president.

2. On the issue of non-disclosure of dollar accounts in his SALN:

CJ Corona did not declare his dollar accounts because he believed “in good faith” in the confidentiality of foreign deposits as provided by the laws on banking secrecy and foreign currency deposit units (FCDU). If he did so, then it would contravene the very law that Congress itself has passed. If there is conflict or ambiguity in the interpretation of the law, it is Congress itself that is to be blamed. Reliance in good faith in the law that Congress passed is not a crime. You cannot put an ordinary man behind bars for a law that in itself is ambiguous.

3. On the issue of betrayal of public trust:

Is reforming the bar exams to set minimum standards for admission to the law profession betrayal of public trust?

Is de-congesting court dockets and promoting alternative dispute resolution to avoid arduous case trial betrayal of public trust?

Is voting for the distribution of the Hacienda Luisita to the farmers betrayal of public trust?

Is voting in favor of farmers in the case of coco levy funds betrayal of public trust?

Is voting to protect an ordinary man's right to travel and presumption of innocence betrayal of public trust?

Is signing a waiver to disclose dollar accounts of the CJ himself and all Congressmen that has set the standard of transparency in public service betrayal of public trust?

If it is, then our senators have a wrong understanding of public trust. If they convict the Chief Justice on the ground of these baseless allegations then there is reason to believe that in this nation, tuwid na daan means: ang baluktot tinutuwid at ang tuwid binabaluktot.

STOP DIRTY POLITICS. This impeachment trial is not a venue for selfish political ambitions.

STOP PERSECUTION. Let us not make the impeachment trial a way to harass justices of the Supreme Court and thus undermine Independence of the Philippine Judiciary.

STOP YELLOW RULE. Once and for all, set this nation free!

Free from the control of very few wealthy hacienderos while the rest of the nation is in poverty!

Free from blind hero worship of the Yellow clan who did nothing for this country except to ensure their class survival.

Free from the bondage of Yellow media manipulation that ensures continued ignorance of the Filipino masses.

Ang Laban ni CJ Corona, ay Laban ng karaniwang mamamayan.
Ang Laban ni CJ Corona, ay Laban ng Bayan.

Wag nating hayaan na sa yugtong ito ng ating kasaysayan,
Dilaw at hindi Batas ang manalaytay.

[niky]

2. On the issue of non-disclosure of dollar accounts in his SALN:

CJ Corona did not declare his dollar accounts because he believed “in good faith” in the confidentiality of foreign deposits as provided by the laws on banking secrecy and foreign currency deposit units (FCDU). If he did so, then it would contravene the very law that Congress itself has passed. If there is conflict or ambiguity in the interpretation of the law, it is Congress itself that is to be blamed. Reliance in good faith in the law that Congress passed is not a crime. You cannot put an ordinary man behind bars for a law that in itself is ambiguous.

The law is unambiguous. As explained here and elsewhere, the FCDU prohibits third parties from divulging dollar accounts.

It's impossible for the law to prohibit a person from divulging personal information. Even more impossible for it to prohibit a person from divulging personal information that he is required to divulge by law. In Corona's interpretation, he is now himself guilty of violating the FCDU! And not in the performance of his duty as a public official... so, in his interpretation, should he now go to jail for that?

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While I agree that some of the SC's decisions have been good... others have... not... just look at the farce that is the PALEA case. And as you say, it's a disproportionate response of the Aquino administration to take on the Chief Justice for decisions that were voted upon by the entire SC. And the case for the prosecution in other terms (the GMA decisions, etcetera) was very weak. And yes, some of the prosecution's tricks were underhanded.

But you can't hide behind politics. If you are given a traffic ticket simply because an enforcer doesn't like you, as long as it's a valid ticket for a proven offense (say, speeding with a photo and radar reading), then you have to pay the fine.

And non-declaration of assets is a valid offense that means dismissal and has meant dismissal for other officials, already.

Magkasagutan nalang mamaya sa ibang court hearings and lawsuits regarding what went on during the trial, if libel and defamation cases need to be filed, so be it. If other SALN cases need to be filed... then let someone file them. If Congress blocks them, remember who voted and be sure to not vote for them next election...

[Altis6453]

Why CJ Corona must not be convicted by the Senate?

1. On the issue of bias decisions in favor of CGMA:

CJ Corona is entitled only to one vote. The decisions of the Supreme Court cannot be attributed to one justice alone owing to its nature of being a collegial body. Nonetheless, if voting patterns is considered, there are far more decisions of the court in which CJ Corona did not vote in favor of GMA than those favorable to the former president.

No doubt CJ only has one vote but wields tremendous influence over the rest of his fellow justices. He has the power of administration over the funds of the SC.

2. On the issue of non-disclosure of dollar accounts in his SALN:

CJ Corona did not declare his dollar accounts because he believed “in good faith” in the confidentiality of foreign deposits as provided by the laws on banking secrecy and foreign currency deposit units (FCDU). If he did so, then it would contravene the very law that Congress itself has passed. If there is conflict or ambiguity in the interpretation of the law, it is Congress itself that is to be blamed. Reliance in good faith in the law that Congress passed is not a crime. You cannot put an ordinary man behind bars for a law that in itself is ambiguous.

The FCDU law does not prohibit the owner of the foreign currency deposits from declaring publicly that he owns such funds. What violation does the owner commit? As a reminder to all public officials (whether you are a court interpreter or justice), public office is a public trust. Public officers and employees must, at all times, be accountable to the people, serve them with utmost responsibility, integrity, loyalty, and efficiency; act with patriotism and justice, and lead modest lives (Sec. 1, Art. XI, Constitution).

3. On the issue of betrayal of public trust:

Is reforming the bar exams to set minimum standards for admission to the law profession betrayal of public trust?

Is de-congesting court dockets and promoting alternative dispute resolution to avoid arduous case trial betrayal of public trust?

Is voting for the distribution of the Hacienda Luisita to the farmers betrayal of public trust?

Is voting in favor of farmers in the case of coco levy funds betrayal of public trust?

Is voting to protect an ordinary man's right to travel and presumption of innocence betrayal of public trust?

Is signing a waiver to disclose dollar accounts of the CJ himself and all Congressmen that has set the standard of transparency in public service betrayal of public trust?

If it is, then our senators have a wrong understanding of public trust. If they convict the Chief Justice on the ground of these baseless allegations then there is reason to believe that in this nation, tuwid na daan means: ang baluktot tinutuwid at ang tuwid binabaluktot.

As to the first four, the answer is no. However, protecting an "ordinary man's right to travel"? The person in question is no less than a former president who stands accused of high crimes. As far as I know, she wasn't even arrested at the port of departure --- merely prevented from leaving the country so that she can be made to answer charges she faced. Also, how do you explain the hastily issued TRO without complete compliance with the conditions set forth by the Court?

The CJ faced a huge public backlash by not being forthcoming with monies he actually owned. Instead, he chose to hide behind the FCDU law and a SC administrative order declaring SALNs of justices to be confidential. SALNs are by their nature, supposed to be available to the public for scrutiny. When finally forced to come up with an explanation, he gave a lame story of "saving up to buy dollars" since the 1960's. Back when the exchange rate was something like Php 3 to US$ 1. I've worked with bankers and they've all concluded that this was highly unlikely because there was little incentive to hedge against the Philippine Peso then. Unless you were a financial savant and predicted that 40-50 years later, the forex would be Php 43 to US$ 1. Eh diba hindi alam ng CJ kung asset nga ba ang dollar account?

STOP DIRTY POLITICS. This impeachment trial is not a venue for selfish political ambitions.

The impeachment of high public officials such as justices of the Supreme Court or members of Constitutional Commissions are a way to cleanse government from dirty politicians. Whatever you say, Corona cannot dissociate himself from dirty politics because his patron put him there for her protection.

STOP PERSECUTION. Let us not make the impeachment trial a way to harass justices of the Supreme Court and thus undermine Independence of the Philippine Judiciary.

Who's persecuting who? None of the other associate justices (save for Mariano Del Castillo) are facing impeachment.

STOP YELLOW RULE. Once and for all, set this nation free!


Free from the control of very few wealthy hacienderos while the rest of the nation is in poverty!

Free from blind hero worship of the Yellow clan who did nothing for this country except to ensure their class survival.

Free from the bondage of Yellow media manipulation that ensures continued ignorance of the Filipino masses.

Ang Laban ni CJ Corona, ay Laban ng karaniwang mamamayan.
Ang Laban ni CJ Corona, ay Laban ng Bayan.

Wag nating hayaan na sa yugtong ito ng ating kasaysayan,
Dilaw at hindi Batas ang manalaytay.

Ang laban ni CJ Corona ay para manatili siya sa kanyang poder bilang punong mahistrado, hindi para sa bayan. Hindi siya karaniwang tao o opisyal dahil siya ang namumuno sa SC. Hindi po bulag ang mga tao para hindi makita ang kanyang pag-tago at palusot sa tinagong kayamanan. Ang mga paliwanag niya ay hindi base sa batas, kundi BUTAS-BUTAS.

[170kphlang]

pustahan tayo, kapag na-acquite yan. gagaling na ulit yan. very predictable move, ngayon nasa ospital siya para kapag guilty tago muna sa hospital at kaapg acquitted, cleared na ng doctors at discharged from the hospital na.

[chua_riwap]

pa'no kung marami mag-abstain at di makuha yung 16 votes?

[_Qwerty_]

if i remember correctly.. don pa lang sa voting pag bukas nang $ account.. 13-10 na in favor of not opening the $ account.. ngayon 16 votes kailangan to convict.. mukhang malabo yan.. pag may 8 nag abstain.. eh di not guilty na agad yan..

[_Qwerty_]

pano ang procedure mamaya?? 3 beses ba boboto? 1 vote for each articles of impeachment??

'It's up to senator-judges to explain vote' - The Philippine Star » News » Headlines

“But if the person impeached in such Articles of Impeachment shall be convicted upon any of said articles by the votes of two-thirds of all the members, the Senate shall proceed to pronounce judgment of conviction,” according to the rules.

This means that if the Chief Justice is convicted on Article 2, then voting on Articles 3 and 7 would no longer have to be taken.

Under the rules, Senate President Juan Ponce Enrile, the presiding officer of the court, will cast the last vote on each article.

[glenn manikis]

“Is Corona morally fit to remain as chief justice of the Supreme Court? The damning revelations go to the very core. Pagkatao ang pinaguusapan natin dito,” lead prosecutor Iloilo Rep. Niel Tupas Jr. said.

Question: Are the Congressmen who signed the impeachment complaint clean enough to accuse him of the crime they themselves are guilty of? Those who plea for justice must come in court with clean hands.

May mga kaso ng katiwalian ang buong angkan ni Tupaz na nasa Ombudsman at SC kaya yan nagkakaganyan.