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View Poll Results: Senate's verdict on CJ

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  • Guilty!

    58 84.06%
  • Not Guilty

    9 13.04%
  • i couldn't care less

    2 2.90%
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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    ano naman yung mea culpa?
    "My fault" or "My mistake"

    Si Pandak, "I am sorry" ang sinabi...di niya daw kasi alam i-pronounce yung mea culpa, hehehe

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    #2
    Quote Originally Posted by boybi View Post
    ano naman yung mea culpa?
    my fault


    short short

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    #3
    A chief justice that makes palusot...

    'Corona not 'morally fit' to be Chief Justice'

    As the impeachment case comes to a close, the prosecution team reiterated that Chief Justice Renato Corona does not deserve to be the country's top magistrate.

    The prosecution team asserted in its closing statement that Chief Justice Renato Corona is not “morally fit” to serve.

    “Is Corona morally fit to remain as chief justice of the Supreme Court? The damning revelations go to the very core. Pagkatao ang pinaguusapan natin dito,” lead prosecutor Iloilo Rep. Niel Tupas Jr. said.

    Tupas said the prosecution has presented evidence that “cast doubt on the moral fitness of the chief justice,” proving that Corona lied about his statements of assets, liabilities and net worth “to conceal his wealth.”

    He noted that Corona himself admitted that he owns peso and dollar accounts which he did not declare in his SALN.

    But Corona justified his non-disclosure of dollar accounts by citing the banking secrecy and foreign currency deposit units (FCDU) laws, which Tupas said is unacceptable.

    “This interpretation of the law is very disturbing. There is no conflict between the constitutional requirement of SALN and the FCDU Act.

    SALN requires all government employees to declare assets. It makes no distinction between peso and dollar,” Tupas said.

    The prosecutor said Corona should be judged by the "highest standards” as what he did is of “highest order.”

    “The House of Representatives took the first step to fulfill our oath that we are the keeper of our people's trust. It is now up to the senator-judges to take the final step to restore the greatness that we have lost.

    The people are hopeful. Let us make it right. Let's decide in favor of truth. Let us be done with Chief Justice Corona,” Tupas said.
    source: 'Corona not 'morally fit' to be Chief Justice' - Yahoo! News Philippines

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    #4
    Tupas' statement really sealed it.

    It would be silly of a law if it prohibited the depositor himself from disclosing his dollar account. By Corona's logic... his signing of the waiver is illegal...

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #5
    Corona: Me a Cupal.

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    #6
    guilty of betrayal of public trust and.... tax evasion. di siya nagbayad ng tax dun sa undeclared $2.4M and P80M.

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    #7
    bale yun na yun sa prosecutors interpretation of SALN is both dollar and peso. they did not expect Corona to just admit $2.4M and P80M tapos yan lang ang panlaban nila. parang barya lang yan ah, 160M. he gets removed from office for 160M. di na sila hahabol sa mas malaki pa pera ni Corona. oh boy ...

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    #8
    Enrile made a nice point imho. The FCDA probihits 3RD PERSONS from revealing the $ deposits of a depositor BUT it does NOT prohibit the depositor from revealing it.

    The Constitution on the other hand requires the depositor who is a government employee to declare his/her true assets, liabilities and net worth, including his/her $ deposits.

    In Enrile's POV there is no conflict between the FCDA and the Constitution. The FCDA did not grant the depositor a right to witheld information regarding his/her $ deposit under the guise of absolute confidentiality. The FCDA then is a flawed excuse used by CJ Corona to not declare his $ deposits.

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    #9
    For me i would like to see him aquited since the charges and evidence is so weak, a guilty verdict will be a dangerous precedent that basic human rights can be easily defeated by weak charges and evidence. what i think is best is aquit him now and re-file the case with better substance and evidence.

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    #10
    ^ FYI, this isn't a case involving violation of human rights. So you call Corona's admission of millions deposited in 4 accounts "weak" evidence?

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    #11
    totoo yan kasi tina-galog lang naman nun Farinas yun speech niya kaya madali intindihin ng common Pinoys, yun speech kasi nun defense lawyer in english but it's pretty convincing. He said Corona is never tried for ill-gotten wealth or for treason. though it may seem that Corona now has 2.4M and 80M respectively, still it needs to be proven if it is ill-gotten, and he committed treason like US multinational corporations paid him money for favorable decisions.

    yun kay Erap impeachment kasi maliwanag na sinabi ni Chavit nun kumukuha sila ng payola sa jueteng with bagmen etc. dito there is the money, but where did it come from? imho, to convict him now would be premature.

    we cannot just judge Corona based on the fact that he admitted he has millions. senators have millions, some presidential advisers have millions. what the prosecution needs to do is to prove if its ill-gotten.

    kaya parang weak nga kung i-impeach sya on the basis that he did not declare his SALN.

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    #12
    Quote Originally Posted by pop3corn View Post
    totoo yan kasi tina-galog lang naman nun Farinas yun speech niya kaya madali intindihin ng common Pinoys, yun speech kasi nun defense lawyer in english but it's pretty convincing. He said Corona is never tried for ill-gotten wealth or for treason. though it may seem that Corona now has 2.4M and 80M respectively, still it needs to be proven if it is ill-gotten, and he committed treason like US multinational corporations paid him money for favorable decisions.

    kaya parang weak nga kung i-impeach sya on the basis that he did not declare his SALN.
    i agree nung una medyo weak talaga yung case. pero since nagka-aminan na... the question that remained is kung ang di pag-declare sa SALN is an impeachable offence. di na rin kailangan i-prove na it is ill-gotten if manalo ang view na impeachable ang di pag-declare sa SALN ng ibang assets, esp. as large as the CJ's. as the prosecutor pointed out, me natanggal na nga sa di lang pag-declare ng pwesto sa palengke, why should the CJ be different? from way back, i read of an old gov't employee na nahatulan ng multa at pagkakulong dahil nahuli sa pagtanggap ng bribe for P500. so it riles me to know of gov't. employees getting away with millions of loot. where's the justice there?

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    #13
    Magugulat nalang tayong lahat pag na ACQUIT si CHIEF justice......

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    #14

    Huwag naman sanang mangyari iyan, bro...

    Bakit?- May inside information ka ba?

    15.7K:lalala:

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    #15
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Magugulat nalang tayong lahat pag na ACQUIT si CHIEF justice......
    Well kung ganun ba eh talagang matinik ang mga galamay ng INM. :D

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    #16
    ^

    matagal ng acuited ang desisyon? hindi aabot ng 16 votes atty. manikis?

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    #17
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Magugulat nalang tayong lahat pag na ACQUIT si CHIEF justice......
    Yeheyyyy!!! mabuhay ka!!!

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    #18
    Quote Originally Posted by gearhead000

    i agree nung una medyo weak talaga yung case. pero since nagka-aminan na... the question that remained is kung ang di pag-declare sa SALN is an impeachable offence. di na rin kailangan i-prove na it is ill-gotten if manalo ang view na impeachable ang di pag-declare sa SALN ng ibang assets, esp. as large as the CJ's. as the prosecutor pointed out, me natanggal na nga sa di lang pag-declare ng pwesto sa palengke, why should the CJ be different? from way back, i read of an old gov't employee na nahatulan ng multa at pagkakulong dahil nahuli sa pagtanggap ng bribe for P500. so it riles me to know of gov't. employees getting away with millions of loot. where's the justice there?
    Yun Sinabi mo na-prove sa pagtanggap ng bribes. Sa Dami-dami ng hi-profile cases dyan sa SC, ni Isa wala na hit ang prosecution na bribery scandal with witnesses na guilty c Corona? dun pa Lang ang hina ng student government natin. Dinadaan sa haka-jaka na pag may tinago o may hindi dine-clare that's tantamount to betrayal of public trust.

    if that is the case then we are just proving ourselves a biased emotional race. Kung sa US customs nga eh, I did not declare I'm bringing in food sa paper, then when asked again sa security I said no food. And lunabas sa x-ray I had food. 2 US airport security went, 1 behind my back and while the other one inspected my Handcarry. Yun pala I forgot to mention I brought in food from the plane, 4 yoghurts and a dessert. Kainin sana namin sa sundo. they let me go bec even though it looked nagsinungaling ako I acted in good faith.

  19. Join Date
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    #19
    saludo ako kay cheap justice corona pag nahatulan siya ng guilty verdict. he is now setting an example for all government officials. ang pag gobyerno ay hindi negosyo ito ay serbisyo sa pilipino.

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    #20
    ang maganda dito ay IF ma convict si corona due to his SALN, sino kaya ang susunod?

    o hanggang dyan nalang

    kung may babawi man, mag palabas yan ng pera para imbestigahan at kakasuhan ang mga may flawed SALN


Impeachment against CJ Corona..