Impeachment against CJ Corona..

[shadow]

ganun ba? parang bata na biglang magsusumbong sa nanay nya?

BTT
ang point ko lang eh, dapat pala nung umpisa pa lang ng trial, nag-file na ng petition.
bakit pinatagal pa.

Eh Wala na daw urungan Laban na daw siya..yun na corner...ayaw na...hehehe saka biglang naging madasalin yun magasawa, lahat yata ng meeting Meron pray over eh

[Retz]

puro strike out ang answer ng wintess.

[shadow]

Here we go, bank records...make or break

Side note: from DZRH Iglesia ni Cristo, maglulunsad ng "Anti-Impeachment Rally" sa paligid ng Korte Suprema at Senado bukas.

[fourtheboys96]

Here we go, bank records...make or break

Side note: from DZRH Iglesia ni Cristo, maglulunsad ng "Anti-Impeachment Rally" sa paligid ng Korte Suprema at Senado bukas.

interesting. I am not a fan of their collective political clout but it I wonder if this will carry through the next election.

[shadow]

interesting. I am not a fan of their collective political clout but it I wonder if this will carry through the next election.

Apparently this admin and their allies are not afraid of INC...which is good...

[chua_riwap]

Apparently this admin and their allies are not afraid of INC...which is good...

block voting? may kasama ko sa trabaho na miyembro rin nila.
di rin naman daw nasusunod yung dikta.

eh di sana nanalo na si villanueva?

BTT

yan din ang pansin ko. di natatakot sa sa mga grupo.

[shadow]

Phantom na lang yata ang vaunted block voting nila

[shadow]

Parang ogie Diaz lang pinataba yun psbank president ah

[Monseratto]

Naawa tuloy mga tao sa PSBank President. Si Serge lumabas na naman yung sungay... buong board ng PSBank ipapasubpoena.

[fourtheboys96]

Can a lawyer enlighten me on this.

Guigona is always pointing out that the senate sitting as an impeachment court is not a co-equal with the executive and judiciary.

But he did say that the impeachment court is supreme over all these branches of the govt.

Our constitution grants the power to try an impeachment complaint only to the senate. Does our constitution also states that they are supreme over all other institutions in the country?

[shadow]

Can a lawyer enlighten me on this.

Guigona is always pointing out that the senate sitting as an impeachment court is not a co-equal with the executive and judiciary.

But he did say that the impeachment court is supreme over all these branches of the govt.

Our constitution grants the power to try an impeachment complaint only to the senate. Does our constitution also states that they are supreme over all other institutions in the country?

he's right, from what I understand and from this simple mind I have, it is Senate that is co equal with the two branches, which yun ang sabi niya but while sitting as an impeachment court they are not Senate/Senators anymore, the reason why they took another oath..

and it just common sense, Senate as an impeachment court is above and supreme over the two branches since if it;s not, then they can't hear or even try the head of the other branches..

another common sense, if they are not supreme and above the two branches, then bakit pag nag decide sila ng guilty talsik either ang President ng Republic or Chief justice ng supreme court... they can't do that if they are still co equal with them...

[fourtheboys96]

he's right, from what I understand and from this simple mind I have, it is Senate that is co equal with the two branches, which yun ang sabi niya but while sitting as an impeachment court they are not Senate/Senators anymore, the reason why they took another oath..

and it just common sense, Senate as an impeachment court is above and supreme over the two branches since if it;s not, then they can't hear or even try the head of the other branches..

another common sense, if they are not supreme and above the two branches, then bakit pag nag decide sila ng guilty talsik either ang President ng Republic or Chief justice ng supreme court... they can't do that if they are still co equal with them...

however, the law isn't just about common sense.

your interpretation of it is subject to grave abuse by the senators which we all all know are capable of that. if that happens, who will balance their power.

IMO, the constitution only granted them the right to try an impeachable official and make their own trial rules which in itself is considered a form of power over the executive and judiciary. but I am not sure if there is a provision that allows them to break some existing laws. good example dito yung PSBank president. so cgurado na bang makukulong siya kasi whatever step na gawin niya, subject to liability siya.

[wowiesy]

he's right, from what I understand and from this simple mind I have, it is Senate that is co equal with the two branches, which yun ang sabi niya but while sitting as an impeachment court they are not Senate/Senators anymore, the reason why they took another oath..

and it just common sense, Senate as an impeachment court is above and supreme over the two branches since if it;s not, then they can't hear or even try the head of the other branches..

another common sense, if they are not supreme and above the two branches, then bakit pag nag decide sila ng guilty talsik either ang President ng Republic or Chief justice ng supreme court... they can't do that if they are still co equal with them...

It is the constitution that gave the power and responsibility to the senate as an impeachment court. It is also the constitution that also LIMITS the consequences of a guilty verdict ( removal from office and ineligibility for government office ). They ( Senate as an impeachment court) are only tasked to decide on the case at bar. Sa decision nila i take the position na yes, sila ang supreme - d pwede ireview ng Supreme Court. di rin provided ng constitution na pwede ireview ng SC ang decision ng Impeachment court.

But as to how they arrive to a decision, i believe they still have to abide by the law at all times. Where the law does not provide exemptions, you can not make one for yourself. While it is also the constitution that provides for the bill of rights and holds due process to be of utmost importance, just because the respondent hasn't waived his rights, it doesnt mean na impeachment court can do everything that violates the rights and protection of the constitution and relevant laws afforded to the respondent.

Andysn na tayo na nakikita natin na may limitations ang batas. Solution then is to have the law amended (attention congress who prioritize non legislative functions ) or have the supreme court declare the covering provisions or the whole law as unconstitutional. May proseso pa rin.

[chua_riwap]

ano na naman kayang palusot ng defense kung sa'n galing yung almost P20M na pera ni corona sa PSB?

[Monseratto]

So na deny ni JPE yung pag subpoena yung 4 SC justices? Parang sinabi na ni JPE na defective yung pag grant ng final and executory decision regarding the FASAP case. It was done by a different SC division with a different set of Justices and not by the one who heard the case.

[shadow]

hinde pa ba tapos ang boxing? ang layo ng actual net income ni Corona sa nilagay niya sa SALN...

[wowiesy]

So na deny ni JPE yung pag subpoena yung 4 SC justices? Parang sinabi na ni JPE na defective yung pag grant ng final and executory decision regarding the FASAP case. It was done by a different SC division with a different set of Justices and not by the one who heard the case.

di ko masisi na umaray ang FASAP at yung union nila.. sayang eh.. pera na naging bato pa... nakapag tataka din naman na sulat lang ay binawi na yung decision... na mukhang flawed nga dahil ibang division ang nag decide sa kaso ng ibang decision... nasa prosecutors now kung pano ipagkabit yung confusion na pano naging ibang division ang nag rule sa kaso ng ibang division at kung ano ang involvement ni corona dun...

pero.. as of yet.. i don't remember na naglabas na Supreme Court ng ruling after binawi yung ruling na yun upon letter from Atty Mendoza... meron na nga ba?

[shadow]

Ever since KAMPi bankrolled his reelection natameme na kay GMA, saka Isang theory ko pa masama loob kay penot dahil wala Sa inner circle eh isip niya malakas siya Kay Cory.

Walanghiya nag kwento pa ng ginawa nila sa erap impeachment eh sila ang hinde sumunod sa rule of law ng walk out na lang nun hinde pinayagan open yun second envelope

[Zeus]

Kung walang tinatago si Chief Justice, sana iauthorize na lang niya mga bangko na pwede open lahat ng dollar accounts niya, para hindi na nahihirapan at naiipit ang mga bank officials at hindi magkaroon ng crisis ang 2 co equal branch...

[wowiesy]

Kung walang tinatago si Chief Justice, sana iauthorize na lang niya mga bangko na pwede open lahat ng dollar accounts niya, para hindi na nahihirapan at naiipit ang mga bank officials at hindi magkaroon ng crisis ang 2 co equal branch...

Tama yan. Sana.... But being a lawyer, why would you waive your rights? O sige granted na it may indicate his hands are not clean... The thing is... Leave him a graceful exit... Ang angyari ambush sa media then impeachment, hoping na mag resign...

Tuloy kung nagka constitutional crisis sino ang talo, the same institutions that we want to strengthen...