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[claRkEnt]

Abangan na lang bio-movie ni Manalo. Si Bong Revilla dapat to play Manalo kaso na-pdaf! :bwahaha:

Blockbuster for sure! Mandatory sa members ang manood (+10% sa ticket prices).

Si shadow, mamimigay ng passes.


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[vinj]

Abangan na lang bio-movie ni Manalo. Si Bong Revilla dapat to play Manalo kaso na-pdaf! :bwahaha:

Blockbuster for sure! Mandatory sa members ang manood (+10% sa ticket prices).

Si shadow, mamimigay ng passes.


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In 3-D? Kasali dapat yan sa MMF and candidate for Academy Award. :D

[Mile2]

mile2, if you're not convinced I'll give you are more detailed and technical interpretation so bear with me.

Yachid' (יָחִיד) - means only son. It can also mean beloved son or only begotten son. This comes from the root word Yachad (יָחַד) meaning united. The confusion, however, comes from its synonym Bachar (בָּחַר) meaning chosen or appointed. INC's interpretation of this is that Jesus is therefore only an appointed messenger and thus, only a man. But using this logic is a fallacy because we know it is only a synonym.

As clarified by A.C. Gaebelein in his book, The Annotated Bible (Penteteuch). p. 29, we must not take its meaning in the New Testament in the same context as the Old Testament.

If we refer to the Greek translation, There are two distinct usages of son: Huios and Teknon. Huios(distinct) is exclusively used to refer to Jesus for example this text:

John 1:34 "I myself have seen, and have testified that this is the Son of God."

Huios automatically means that the Son is in the same kind as its origin, God the Father.

Whereas Teknon(gender neutral children) is used in this:

John 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,

refers to us, the believers, not as direct offspring but as adopted children.

Trinitarians are here committing a categorical fallacy by confusing definitions of the terms. In short they are comparing apples and oranges.

Being "Son of God" does not mean God

God is not a Son of Man

God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent. (Numbers 23:19).


Israelites are Sons of God

You are the sons of the LORD your God. (Deuteronomy 14:1; cf. Ex. 4:22; Deut 32:6, 18-19; Psalm 29:1; Rom 9:4).


Judges of Israel are Sons of God

I said, "You are gods,and sons of the Most High - all of you. Nevertheless you will die like men and fall like any one of the princes."


Angels are Sons of God

Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?.... When the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy? (Job 38:4,7).



Huios was used in Galatians 3:26 but was not referred to Jesus as oppose to the quotes by "SAFEORIGIN"

Christians are Sons of God

You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:26).

True disciples of Jesus are sons of God. In fact, just as Jesus was begotten from above by the Spirit of God, all the disciples of Jesus are begotten from above by the Spirit of God. For this reason Jesus is described as the "firstborn of many brothers." God is the true Father of the disciples and indeed they are all "partakers of the divine nature" and Jesus also teaches they "will be like the angels being sons of the resurrection." And of course it does not mean any of them are "God." The very same thing is true of Jesus.Trinitarians need to stop confusing or conflating identity and nature and accusing everyone else of the very error they commit themselves.

[chua_riwap]

kapatid, sir, welcome back.
nawala ka ata saglit ah. kasama ka ba sa manila evangelical/medical mission last dec. 4?

[dreamur]

^ so using your logic, Christ is a man and your religion is called Iglesia Ni Kristo, so it means your religion is Iglesia Ng Tao? Sino ang tinutukoy na tao dito? Si Manalo ba?

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[crazy_boy]

Iglesia ba yung nga mahilig tumawag ng "brother" ?

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[170kphlang]

alam natin malakas mga koneksiyon at impluwensiya ng mga inc, so kapag nanalo ng award yung pelikula nila..

..alam na :D

[CLAVEL3699]

Trinitarians are here committing a categorical fallacy by confusing definitions of the terms. In short they are comparing apples and oranges.

Being "Son of God" does not mean God

God is not a Son of Man

God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent. (Numbers 23:19).


Israelites are Sons of God

You are the sons of the LORD your God. (Deuteronomy 14:1; cf. Ex. 4:22; Deut 32:6, 18-19; Psalm 29:1; Rom 9:4).


Judges of Israel are Sons of God

I said, "You are gods,and sons of the Most High - all of you. Nevertheless you will die like men and fall like any one of the princes."


Angels are Sons of God

Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?.... When the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy? (Job 38:4,7).



Huios was used in Galatians 3:26 but was not referred to Jesus as oppose to the quotes by "SAFEORIGIN"

Christians are Sons of God

You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:26).

True disciples of Jesus are sons of God. In fact, just as Jesus was begotten from above by the Spirit of God, all the disciples of Jesus are begotten from above by the Spirit of God. For this reason Jesus is described as the "firstborn of many brothers." God is the true Father of the disciples and indeed they are all "partakers of the divine nature" and Jesus also teaches they "will be like the angels being sons of the resurrection." And of course it does not mean any of them are "God." The very same thing is true of Jesus.Trinitarians need to stop confusing or conflating identity and nature and accusing everyone else of the very error they commit themselves.

Please explain it in your own words... baka maenganyo ako sumanib sa inyo...

member of nang iglesia ni culafo.

[chua_riwap]

Iglesia ba yung nga mahilig tumawag ng "brother" ?

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yung dati kong kasama sa opis na BA, kaanib sa JIL, ganyan tawagan nila.....brother, or brod.

[ozcity]

Please explain it in your own words... baka maenganyo ako sumanib sa inyo...

member of nang iglesia ni culafo.

Malabo yan hinihiling mo..dedma lang yan..hahaha

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[170kphlang]

i feel uneasy when i'm around these group of people, can't help but sense and feel the tendency of them acting like that sa mga kagroup nila just to show their good side and get accepted and have some approval from the others within the group..

[CLAVEL3699]

Malabo yan hinihiling mo..dedma lang yan..hahaha

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Kung hindi nya gagawin yun hindi na healthy ang discussion dahil pag puro quotes eh walang kwenta.

[ClaNker]

Trinitarians are here committing a categorical fallacy by confusing definitions of the terms. In short they are comparing apples and oranges.

Being "Son of God" does not mean God

God is not a Son of Man

God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man, that He should repent. (Numbers 23:19).


Israelites are Sons of God

You are the sons of the LORD your God. (Deuteronomy 14:1; cf. Ex. 4:22; Deut 32:6, 18-19; Psalm 29:1; Rom 9:4).


Judges of Israel are Sons of God

I said, "You are gods,and sons of the Most High - all of you. Nevertheless you will die like men and fall like any one of the princes."


Angels are Sons of God

Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth?.... When the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy? (Job 38:4,7).



Huios was used in Galatians 3:26 but was not referred to Jesus as oppose to the quotes by "SAFEORIGIN"

Christians are Sons of God

You are all sons of God through faith in Christ Jesus. (Galatians 3:26).

True disciples of Jesus are sons of God. In fact, just as Jesus was begotten from above by the Spirit of God, all the disciples of Jesus are begotten from above by the Spirit of God. For this reason Jesus is described as the "firstborn of many brothers." God is the true Father of the disciples and indeed they are all "partakers of the divine nature" and Jesus also teaches they "will be like the angels being sons of the resurrection." And of course it does not mean any of them are "God." The very same thing is true of Jesus.Trinitarians need to stop confusing or conflating identity and nature and accusing everyone else of the very error they commit themselves.

Inang kupo INC!!!!

Ano ba ang ibig sabihin ng "his one and only begotten Son?" Pinag tatangal mo sa context yang verses na pinost mo at pinag rambol mo pa.

Linawin mo, ang labo mo eh.

[Retz]

maligayang pagbalik kapatid na sir mile2.

[Mile2]

Inang kupo INC!!!!

Ano ba ang ibig sabihin ng "his one and only begotten Son?" Pinag tatangal mo sa context yang verses na pinost mo at pinag rambol mo pa.

Linawin mo, ang labo mo eh.

Pakipost nga anong Bible version yan "his one and only begotten Son" saan mo hinahanap sa mga verses na bibigay ko?

The verses I posted does not contain the term begotten son, but "sons of God".

[dreamur]

^ so using your logic, Christ is a man and your religion is called Iglesia Ni Kristo, so it means your religion is Iglesia Ng Tao? Sino ang tinutukoy na tao dito? Si Manalo ba?

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Miles2: pwede mo bang sagutin to? Selective naman un sagot mo. Sa pwede mo lang depensahan.

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[CLAVEL3699]

Pakipost nga anong Bible version yan "his one and only begotten Son"

Boss pakiexplain nga in your own words. wag ka kukuha nang bible verses.

Gusto ko lang malaman kung paano mo o nang INC maexplain nang sariling salita.

[ClaNker]

Pakipost nga anong Bible version yan "his one and only begotten Son"

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - KJV

Explain mo mga verses na pinost mo in its entire context. Ang problema sayo eh masyado kang literal sa mga interpretations mo.

[ClaNker]

Pakipost nga anong Bible version yan "his one and only begotten Son" saan mo hinahanap sa mga verses na bibigay ko?

The verses I posted does not contain the term begotten son, but "sons of God".

So?

Too short

[Mile2]

John 3:16

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. - KJV

Explain mo mga verses na pinost mo in its entire context. Ang problema sayo eh masyado kang literal sa mga interpretations mo.

Simple lang naman yan, sabi sa John 3:16 who ever believes in Him shall have everlsting life. If you believe in this verse and you believe in His Son Jesus, you should believe Jesus when he says:

Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: “Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should[a] give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. (John 17:1-3)

malinaw yan talata, singular person referring to the Father.