Iglesia ni Cristo Refused Shelter

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Si Manalo nga yun... pero Christian siya now AFAIK.

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[ClaNker]

Wala pong nakalagay sa talata na binanggit nyo na Dios si Jesus, sinasabi sa talata na ang Cristo ay naparito sa laman. Ang Dios ay Espiritu ayon sa Bible. ganun din sinabi ng Dios na siya ay Dios at hindi tao. Hosea 11:9

Ang nagsasabi na Dios si Cristo ay Anthichrist ayon sa talatang ito.

2 John 1:7: For many deceivers have gone out into the world, men who will not acknowledge the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh; such a one is the deceiver and the Antichrist.

Ayan nanaman. Single verse isn't enough, 2 John 1:7-11 dapat yan. At sino ba dito sa amin ang di tinangap na nag katawang tao si Cristo?

Sabit ka nanaman.

[Dark Lord]

solid yun. taught and immersed by the jesuits during his younger days. then moved to the brothers of la salle. hehehe.

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[mitsuyota_lover]

Wala pong nakalagay sa talata na binanggit nyo na Dios si Jesus, sinasabi sa talata na ang Cristo ay naparito sa laman. Ang Dios ay Espiritu ayon sa Bible. ganun din sinabi ng Dios na siya ay Dios at hindi tao. Hosea 11:9

Ang nagsasabi na Dios si Cristo ay Anthichrist ayon sa talatang ito.

2 John 1:7: For many deceivers have gone out into the world, men who will not acknowledge the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh; such a one is the deceiver and the Antichrist.

Sana binasa mo yung tatlong nakalagay yan ang hirap kapag ang tinurong pagintindi sa bible e mga pahapyaw lang eh hindi marunong intindihin yung kabuuan...

try mong pagdugtungnin yung 3 na sinabi about sa antichrist...

1 John 2:22: Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the Antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.

1 John 4:3: and every spirit which does not confess Jesus is not of God. This is the spirit of Antichrist, of which you heard that it was coming, and now it is in the world already.

2 John 1:7: For many deceivers have gone out into the world, men who will not acknowledge the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh; such a one is the deceiver and the Antichrist.

[Dark Lord]

ano yun? si Cristo ay naparito sa laman? ano ibig sabihin nyan sa inyo? makamundo si Cristo?

Wala pong nakalagay sa talata na binanggit nyo na Dios si Jesus, sinasabi sa talata na ang Cristo ay naparito sa laman. Ang Dios ay Espiritu ayon sa Bible. ganun din sinabi ng Dios na siya ay Dios at hindi tao. Hosea 11:9

Ang nagsasabi na Dios si Cristo ay Anthichrist ayon sa talatang ito.

2 John 1:7: For many deceivers have gone out into the world, men who will not acknowledge the coming of Jesus Christ in the flesh; such a one is the deceiver and the Antichrist.

[ClaNker]

ano yun? si Cristo ay naparito sa laman? ano ibig sabihin nyan sa inyo? makamundo si Cristo?

Tao lang daw talaga si Cristo.

Hindi kasi nila alam kung bakit sinulat ni John yan.

[vinj]

solid yun. taught and immersed by the jesuits during his younger days. then moved to the brothers of la salle. hehehe.

Sa Global Port nga siya ngayon. :D

Wala... di hamak na mas maganda talaga yung program ng DLSU that time. Yan yung dahilan kaya't nagka-Tenorio et. al. at nagayos ng program yung ADMU.

BTT (to what's left of this topic): Yung Jesuits at La Sallian Bros, marami nang PBA players nadevelop. Yung INM?

[safeorigin]

^Exactly, no one is refuting that Christ came into flesh.

Jesus himself said, however, is that He existed even before the world was created. Ergo, divine.

So, now that we've established that Jesus is not merely a man, who is He?

Matthew 16

King James Version (KJV)

13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.
18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Galatians 4

King James Version (KJV)

4 But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
5 To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
6 And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
7 Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.

The use of Son(capital S) of God to refer to self is distinct to Jesus. On the Epistles of Paul and John, on the other hand, they refer to followers as children of God, inferring that God the Father adopted us as His sons(small s) while making it clear that Jesus is His Only Son(capital S).

And because Jesus IS the Son of God...

John 5:23

King James Version (KJV)

23 That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

Matthew 14

King James Version (KJV)

24 But the ship was now in the midst of the sea, tossed with waves: for the wind was contrary.
25 And in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went unto them, walking on the sea.
26 And when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, It is a spirit; and they cried out for fear.
27 But straightway Jesus spake unto them, saying, Be of good cheer; it is I; be not afraid.
28 And Peter answered him and said, Lord, if it be thou, bid me come unto thee on the water.
29 And he said, Come. And when Peter was come down out of the ship, he walked on the water, to go to Jesus.
30 But when he saw the wind boisterous, he was afraid; and beginning to sink, he cried, saying, Lord, save me.
31 And immediately Jesus stretched forth his hand, and caught him, and said unto him, O thou of little faith, wherefore didst thou doubt?
32 And when they were come into the ship, the wind ceased.
33 Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.

So why in the world would the Apostles worship Jesus if He is merely a man? The answer is plain and simple. It's only up to you if you want to accept the truth.

[chrismarte]

^di nila balak mag develop, wala naman kasing gaanong power/kapangyarihan sa sports.

Mga pulitiko at mga appointees sa govt office pwede pa may ROI pa

[Ry_Tower]

^di nila balak mag develop, wala naman kasing gaanong power/kapangyarihan sa sports.

Mga pulitiko at mga appointees sa govt office pwede pa may ROI pa

Yan ang lifetime investment. :D

[Dark Lord]

meron naman brad... eto mga nadevelop ni INM: Ferdinand Marcos, Joseph Ejercito Estrada at Gloria Macapagal Arroyo.:money::money::money: san ka pa?

at yung na develop nilang mga tao na nagtipon tipon at umatake nung edsa 3.

Sa Global Port nga siya ngayon. :D

Wala... di hamak na mas maganda talaga yung program ng DLSU that time. Yan yung dahilan kaya't nagka-Tenorio et. al. at nagayos ng program yung ADMU.

BTT (to what's left of this topic): Yung Jesuits at La Sallian Bros, marami nang PBA players nadevelop. Yung INM?

[170kphlang]

bakit nga ba hindi nagpapakita sa tv station nila si manalo at magsalita?

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[safeorigin]

mile2, if you're not convinced I'll give you are more detailed and technical interpretation so bear with me.

Yachid' (יָחִיד) - means only son. It can also mean beloved son or only begotten son. This comes from the root word Yachad (יָחַד) meaning united. The confusion, however, comes from its synonym Bachar (בָּחַר) meaning chosen or appointed. INC's interpretation of this is that Jesus is therefore only an appointed messenger and thus, only a man. But using this logic is a fallacy because we know it is only a synonym.

As clarified by A.C. Gaebelein in his book, The Annotated Bible (Penteteuch). p. 29, we must not take its meaning in the New Testament in the same context as the Old Testament.

If we refer to the Greek translation, There are two distinct usages of son: Huios and Teknon. Huios(distinct) is exclusively used to refer to Jesus for example this text:

John 1:34 "I myself have seen, and have testified that this is the Son of God."

Huios automatically means that the Son is in the same kind as its origin, God the Father.

Whereas Teknon(gender neutral children) is used in this:

John 1:12 But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, even to those who believe in His name,

refers to us, the believers, not as direct offspring but as adopted children.

[testament11]

Mile2, bakit di mo subukan itanong sa mga ministro ninyo ang mga tanong dito? Takot ka bang malaman ang katotohanan?

[safeorigin]

So which will it be?

[vinj]

^ hahaha. Grabe na ang biblical nosebleed ko sa thread na ito.

Happy 100th page.

[ClaNker]

Excellent post on Greek translation safeorigin.

[safeorigin]

I forgot to mention that the first set of translations are in Hebrew. The second set are in Greek.

[cast_no_shadow]

Kudos sa mga masipag maghalungkat at magsaliksik. Antyaga niyo!


So nagpapasok nga ba ng hindi INC member sa mga kapilya? Hehe






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