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  1. Join Date
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    actually madami na nakakita ng demonyo dito sa mundo kaya siguro nga may impyerno.makininig lang kayo sa mga nag aaway sa paligid or sa balita sa tv, lagi nila sinasabi "demonyo ka"!yon ang magandang tanungin baka galing na sila sa impyerno kaya alam nila hitsura o ugali ni taning....pero kidding aside, this is just my piece;

    a) there is no harm in believing;

    a-1) if you believe there is heaven and you've been damn good all your entire life and there is really heaven, wow you are safe but if indeed there is no heaven nor hell what the heck, you did not loose nothing right?so it's really a matter of choice, just chose what you think is best.

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    take note: pina-iksi ko nalang

    Ecclesiastes 7:2 It is better to go to the house of mourning, than to go to the house of feasting: for that is the end of all men; and the living will lay it to his heart.

    Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.

    Ecclesiastes 9:10 Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with thy might; for there is no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.

    Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment

    what follows then will be either punishment in hell, or reward in heaven. Christ discussed more about hell than heaven bec the "bad news" of hell was part of the revelation of the "good news" of the Gospel.

    This is the "what" part, I'm sure you've been told many times the "how" stuff. The "when" and "where" parts nobody on earth can say. Go figure, malaki ka na
    But the issue of what happens to us when time is no more, hypothetically it's beyond our wildest dreams and imaginations (heck, kahit na mag ecstasy ka pa 10x). we could not even begin to comprehend our natural world, even now I'm held in awe with simple stuff like the small baby's giggle or how a wheel can be manufactured from potatoes.

    PS: tamaan ay wag magalit- peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis Raines View Post
    When we Tsikoters go to Heaven, we get to drive a Ferrari.


    When we go to Hell, we get to drive an underbone
    +1!!! Hahahaha!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    the premise of this statement is wrong since it forgets the most important of God's gifts - free will. it is not God who choses whether you go to heaven or go to hell, it is YOU. if you choose to believe in Him, if you choose to be sorry for your sins and reconcile with God, then you go to heaven. choose otherwise, then you go to hell. the battle between God and satan is about winning your soul. why would God send you to hell if He loses in the end. it is not His choice, it is YOURS.
    yah.. and that's the mistery of it...this so called "free well" the battle between good and evil...and who will get your soul..(which had been thought since our early days)...but God still knows everything about the future no matter what....

    well, of course it's the free well!!!..got it... well, I guess this thread is really useless..

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    I don't believe in heaven/hell.

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    sir its free will not free well.

    i used to believe in heaven and hell when i was a kid.

    but as i grew up my eyes were opened up to the harsh things in life.

    that hell is here. like very very bad experiences in life.

    pero sympre heaven din ay andito hehe woot woot

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    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    the premise of this statement is wrong since it forgets the most important of God's gifts - free will. it is not God who choses whether you go to heaven or go to hell, it is YOU. if you choose to believe in Him, if you choose to be sorry for your sins and reconcile with God, then you go to heaven. choose otherwise, then you go to hell. the battle between God and satan is about winning your soul. why would God send you to hell if He loses in the end. it is not His choice, it is YOURS.

    [SIZE=4]I agree[/SIZE]

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    what's gonna happen is not that important .. what matters is how are we suppose to live our lives while given a chance ( free will ) to better up our lives ... dont forget as a Christian we are entrusted with the task of preaching the word .. mga tsikoteers habang may buhay may pagasa .. sa huli magsisi ka man kung patay ka na sorry ka na lang ... PEACE

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    Here are some more things that have been playing in mind:

    1) Pag namatay ba tayo, kung ano ang edad natin dito sa mundo nung mamatay tayo e yun din ang edad natin sa kabilang buhay? So kunyari mamatay ang isang teenager, pagdating ba niya kung san man ay teenager pa rin siya? Kung may 80 year old naman na mamatay of old age, matanda rin ba siya sa afterlife?

    2) In connection to #1, pano pag nagkita-kita ang mga magkakamag-anak sa langit tapos lahat sila halos magkakaedad na? Example: nagkita kami ng lolo ko, tatay ko tapos ako pero lahat kami gurang, di ba awkward yun?

    3) Kung may diperensiya yung tao (pilay, quadreplegic, putol ang braso/hita, bulag, baliw, kalbo), "marerepair" ba yun pag namatay siya?

    4) Irereplay ba sa tin ang mga huling sandali natin sa lupa? Kunyari, nagpaopera ako tapos somehow may aberya during the operation at namatay ako nang di inaasahan, siyempre pag gising ko mashashock na lang ako at either si San Pedro o si Satanas na ang kaharap ko.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isketi View Post
    Here are some more things that have been playing in mind:

    1) Pag namatay ba tayo, kung ano ang edad natin dito sa mundo nung mamatay tayo e yun din ang edad natin sa kabilang buhay? So kunyari mamatay ang isang teenager, pagdating ba niya kung san man ay teenager pa rin siya? Kung may 80 year old naman na mamatay of old age, matanda rin ba siya sa afterlife?

    2) In connection to #1, pano pag nagkita-kita ang mga magkakamag-anak sa langit tapos lahat sila halos magkakaedad na? Example: nagkita kami ng lolo ko, tatay ko tapos ako pero lahat kami gurang, di ba awkward yun?

    3) Kung may diperensiya yung tao (pilay, quadreplegic, putol ang braso/hita, bulag, baliw, kalbo), "marerepair" ba yun pag namatay siya?

    4) Irereplay ba sa tin ang mga huling sandali natin sa lupa? Kunyari, nagpaopera ako tapos somehow may aberya during the operation at namatay ako nang di inaasahan, siyempre pag gising ko mashashock na lang ako at either si San Pedro o si Satanas na ang kaharap ko.
    hehehe! nice questions pero relevant!

    add pa ko mga questions... bakit may damit lagi yun mga na-dedepict na mga multo? if that is the case eh di may kaluluwa din pala mga damit?

    meron ba kaluluwa mga hayop? paano yun? mapupunta ba sila sa langit o sa impyerno?

    ang halaman ba may kaluluwa? sa langit ba sila mapupunta o sa impyerno?

    mukhang mas feasible kasi ang life force kagaya sa mga anime. when we die, our energy transforms into another form of energy... maybe yun ang nakikita natin mga ghost apparitions

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    1) Pag namatay ba tayo, kung ano ang edad natin dito sa mundo nung mamatay tayo e yun din ang edad natin sa kabilang buhay? So kunyari mamatay ang isang teenager, pagdating ba niya kung san man ay teenager pa rin siya? Kung may 80 year old naman na mamatay of old age, matanda rin ba siya sa afterlife?
    Oo sa umpisa. Magbabago ang edad/itsura mo depende sa kung sino ang makakita sa iyo. Makikilala ka sa kung anong itsura mo noong nakilala ka.

    2) In connection to #1, pano pag nagkita-kita ang mga magkakamag-anak sa langit tapos lahat sila halos magkakaedad na? Example: nagkita kami ng lolo ko, tatay ko tapos ako pero lahat kami gurang, di ba awkward yun?
    Hindi naman awkward kasi nagkakaintindihan naman kayo at tsaka balewala na ang edad sa langit.

    3) Kung may diperensiya yung tao (pilay, quadreplegic, putol ang braso/hita, bulag, baliw, kalbo), "marerepair" ba yun pag namatay siya?
    Oo, walang "disabled" sa langit. Pero sa umpisa, feeling disabled pa rin, hanggang maramdaman nyang buo na uli sya.

    4) Irereplay ba sa tin ang mga huling sandali natin sa lupa? Kunyari, nagpaopera ako tapos somehow may aberya during the operation at namatay ako nang di inaasahan, siyempre pag gising ko mashashock na lang ako at either si San Pedro o si Satanas na ang kaharap ko.
    Buong buhay ang i-rereplay. Kadalasan, kilala mong kamag-anak ang sumasalubong para hind ka matakot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isketi View Post
    Here are some more things that have been playing in mind:

    1) Pag namatay ba tayo, kung ano ang edad natin dito sa mundo nung mamatay tayo e yun din ang edad natin sa kabilang buhay? So kunyari mamatay ang isang teenager, pagdating ba niya kung san man ay teenager pa rin siya? Kung may 80 year old naman na mamatay of old age, matanda rin ba siya sa afterlife?

    2) In connection to #1, pano pag nagkita-kita ang mga magkakamag-anak sa langit tapos lahat sila halos magkakaedad na? Example: nagkita kami ng lolo ko, tatay ko tapos ako pero lahat kami gurang, di ba awkward yun?

    3) Kung may diperensiya yung tao (pilay, quadreplegic, putol ang braso/hita, bulag, baliw, kalbo), "marerepair" ba yun pag namatay siya?

    4) Irereplay ba sa tin ang mga huling sandali natin sa lupa? Kunyari, nagpaopera ako tapos somehow may aberya during the operation at namatay ako nang di inaasahan, siyempre pag gising ko mashashock na lang ako at either si San Pedro o si Satanas na ang kaharap ko.
    here's a more interesting question: where was satan when he committed the original sin ( church says adam and eve committed the original sin--wrong!).......

    answer: Satan was in heaven with god when he committed a sin...Does this mean when you're in heaven, you can still commit sin? Not to mention satan or lucifer was an angel....how much more if humans get to heaven.

    city

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    1) Pag namatay ba tayo, kung ano ang edad natin dito sa mundo nung mamatay tayo e yun din ang edad natin sa kabilang buhay? So kunyari mamatay ang isang teenager, pagdating ba niya kung san man ay teenager pa rin siya? Kung may 80 year old naman na mamatay of old age, matanda rin ba siya sa afterlife?

    - based on christian teachings, the body is only the shell of our soul. so technically, kung ano yung idad mo dito sa lupa, yun din ang idad ng soul mo.

    2) In connection to #1, pano pag nagkita-kita ang mga magkakamag-anak sa langit tapos lahat sila halos magkakaedad na? Example: nagkita kami ng lolo ko, tatay ko tapos ako pero lahat kami gurang, di ba awkward yun?

    - again based on christian teachings. if your soul is in heaven, you will not recognize your acquaitances here on earth. what you will just see and feel there is God's glory.

    3) Kung may diperensiya yung tao (pilay, quadreplegic, putol ang braso/hita, bulag, baliw, kalbo), "marerepair" ba yun pag namatay siya?

    - yes. i've said in question #1. the body is only the shell of our soul. since yung may diprensya is yung body, hindi yung soul, and hindi nya madadala yung body nya sa kabila. so repaired na yun.

    4) Irereplay ba sa tin ang mga huling sandali natin sa lupa? Kunyari, nagpaopera ako tapos somehow may aberya during the operation at namatay ako nang di inaasahan, siyempre pag gising ko mashashock na lang ako at either si San Pedro o si Satanas na ang kaharap ko.
    - eto ang di ko alam kung ano talaga mangyayari. pero based on christian teachings you maybe aware that your soul is separating from the body.

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    Quote Originally Posted by isketi View Post
    Here are some more things that have been playing in mind:

    1) Pag namatay ba tayo, kung ano ang edad natin dito sa mundo nung mamatay tayo e yun din ang edad natin sa kabilang buhay? So kunyari mamatay ang isang teenager, pagdating ba niya kung san man ay teenager pa rin siya? Kung may 80 year old naman na mamatay of old age, matanda rin ba siya sa afterlife?

    2) In connection to #1, pano pag nagkita-kita ang mga magkakamag-anak sa langit tapos lahat sila halos magkakaedad na? Example: nagkita kami ng lolo ko, tatay ko tapos ako pero lahat kami gurang, di ba awkward yun?

    3) Kung may diperensiya yung tao (pilay, quadreplegic, putol ang braso/hita, bulag, baliw, kalbo), "marerepair" ba yun pag namatay siya?

    4) Irereplay ba sa tin ang mga huling sandali natin sa lupa? Kunyari, nagpaopera ako tapos somehow may aberya during the operation at namatay ako nang di inaasahan, siyempre pag gising ko mashashock na lang ako at either si San Pedro o si Satanas na ang kaharap ko.
    in addition to numbers 1 to 3, magagamit mo pa ba genitals (or mayroon pa ba) mo since hindi na naman pro-creation ang theme ng heaven

    the answer: no kasi you dont have to think in the physical sense. think outside the box, out of this earth. so isipin na lang natin mga taga-heaven mga weirdo beyond human logic kung mag-isip

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    Quote Originally Posted by dbuzz View Post
    Religious people said:

    >>> "in hell its unimaginable pain/sufferings and being renewed every moment 'till eternity.." -will God the compassionate really do this? taking the fact that He already knows from the start what's going to happend to you?

    >>> "in heaven its forever joy" -i've seen a movie about those guys who were in heaven for such a long time that everything (under the laws of God) had been done.. i mean isn't it a bit boring?..can't have ***,..can't eat lobster...and more ungodly deed..(but nice)..

    now if you're in hell for a long long time you may get used to everything and might even try to kick lucifer in the butt just for the fun of it or maybe swim back stroke in the boiling oil.....you know...just a thought..
    Ilocano people like me are not welcome anymore in HELL. According to the legend, may isang ILOCANO daw na masyadong loko lahat na klasing pagkain ay pinupulutan niya, wala daw talaga nitong pinapatawad. Kaya nong namatay yong ILOCANO na iyon hindi tinanggap ni San Pedro sa langit kaya napunta sa HELL. Dahil loko nga pati si SATANAS hinabol niya dahil gusto niyang pulutanin dahil napagkamalan niyang KAMBING. Alam niyo ba takot na takot daw si SATANAS kaya lahat daw na ILOCANO ay pinalayas niya lahat out of HELL, and that was the story begin.

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    bwahahaha.. sarap palang pulutan si satanas ha?... pinapaitang kambing ba bro?...

    yun nga eh kaya yung tagalangit ay ingit na ingit ng madungawan nilang nag iinuman at may mga magandang chicks pa sila doon sa hell. but then sabi ng angel "don't be misled by what you see."
    "kasi yung baso ng alak na hawak nila ay may butas yun..."
    "and then yun namang mga magagandang chicks na yun...."
    "......mga walang butas yun.!!!"

    opss sorry ot na pala. hehehe.

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