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    #21
    I actually admire Sen. Webb. Imagine giving up his political aspirations just to support his son. I don't think the evidence is beyond resonable doubt, I think the trial before was influenced by PR and not really from the evidence.

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    #22
    +1^^ tama dapat beyond resonable doubt dapat bago ka mahatulang dito ng guilty eh mismong ang US government na ang nagsasabi na andun c webb sa states nung mangyari ang ang krimen tapos iisa lang ata ang star witness ng prosecution na si jessica alfaro na isang drug addict mismong si gary valenciano nag testify na nasa states si webb dami pang documents na prinesent sila webb tapos hindi pinansin ng korte masyado kasing high profile ang kaso kaya ang judge palagay ko na pressure na bigyan ng guilty verdict si webb

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    #23
    sa pinas kasi di maayos ang justice system JUST TIIS lang...

    imelda has gotten away with all the wealth after more than 20 years of the case you can only see them rotting at the supreme court

    erap in his plunder case, he wasnt proven innocent, but he was able to get back at the field, run for presidency and almost won...see how idiotic voters are? he wasnt able to prove any good yet but still voters vouch for him on his track record at the tills...tsk tsk tsk

    onli in da pilipins!!!

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    #24
    Quote Originally Posted by lazyfoot View Post
    I actually admire Sen. Webb. Imagine giving up his political aspirations just to support his son. I don't think the evidence is beyond resonable doubt, I think the trial before was influenced by PR and not really from the evidence.
    There were those of us before who were unsure of the evidence presented before the court.

    Alfaro, as a confessed addict and party to whatever party was at the scene of the crime, could not be credibly called an impartial or dependable witness.

    And there is the fact that some evidence for the defense was ignored outright.

    If the accused were indeed innocent... imagine... spending nearly half your life in prison for a crime you didn't commit?

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #25
    hindi po ako abogado pero ang alam ko mas mabigat ang eyewitness account supported by other corroborating evidence kesa sa anupamang certification na pinirmahan lang.maski ang pumirma pa nito ay isang credible na tao.

    may kakilala ako na napatatakan nya ang passport nya sa immigration sa amerika ng hindi nya kailangan pumunta pa dun. (syempre this was prior to 911 incident, kasi super duper higpit na ngaun sa amerika, nakakapraning ang kanilang pagkaparanoid)

    napansin ko lang din, bias ang mga "kapamilya" nuon pa man na dinidinig ang kaso ng vizconde.

    pabor naman po ako sa pagpapalaya kay biong. naserve naman na po nya ang sintensya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ekaj42 View Post
    hindi po ako abogado pero ang alam ko mas mabigat ang eyewitness account supported by other corroborating evidence kesa sa anupamang certification na pinirmahan lang.maski ang pumirma pa nito ay isang credible na tao.

    may kakilala ako na napatatakan nya ang passport nya sa immigration sa amerika ng hindi nya kailangan pumunta pa dun. (syempre this was prior to 911 incident, kasi super duper higpit na ngaun sa amerika, nakakapraning ang kanilang pagkaparanoid)

    napansin ko lang din, bias ang mga "kapamilya" nuon pa man na dinidinig ang kaso ng vizconde.

    pabor naman po ako sa pagpapalaya kay biong. naserve naman na po nya ang sintensya.
    may eye witness din naman sila webb ah saka depende naman yan sa eyewitness kung credible palagay ko naman mas credible naman si gary valenciano kaysa kay jessica alfaro saka next to impossbile yung sinasabi mo na natatakan yung passport nya sa amerika na hindi sya nagpupunta doon unless peke yung tatak
    Last edited by nervenllarena; December 1st, 2010 at 06:11 PM. Reason: correction

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    #27
    sino kaya talaga ang pumatay sa pamilya vizconde? wala kaya talagang kapitbahay na nakakita?

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    #28
    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap View Post
    Why is Vizconde trying to question the release of Biong? Na-serve na yung sentence nyang 12 yrs. Lumampas pa nga, naging 15 yrs yung incarceration nya sa Munti.
    It should be 16 years and not 12 or 15. Yan po ang habol ng VACC. meron pa siyang kulang na 1 year to serve, but Sec. Di Lima already signed to release him.

    I heard during the interview kay Biong, hinde nya raw sisirain ang buhay ng pamilya nya para lang pagtakpan si Webb. Kung pinagtakpan nya raw si Webb, baket sa lumang bahay pa rin sila nakatira? Mga anak nya di man lang nakatapos ng pag-aaral? Make sense to me.

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    #29
    Quote Originally Posted by nervenllarena View Post
    saka next to impossbile yung sinasabi mo na natatakan yung passport nya sa amerika na hindi sya nagpupunta doon unless peke yung tatak
    not really impossible. prior to 9-11 lax ang security ng US. yung classmate ko sa college na green card holder. nakaka-uwi dito sa pinas ng hindi na-stamp passport nya. making it appear na hindi sya umaalis sa US thus complyng with the required duration of residency.

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    #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    If Hubert et al will be exonorated, what can Lauro do now? Can the old man be sued himself if he won't shut up?
    He and the VACC can make a lot of noise but that's just about all they can do.

    I doubt if the Webbs will sue him should Hubert be acquitted on appeal. It'll look pretty bad for them, too.

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