http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/storypage...StoryId=116619
jpdm, related ito sa vocational topic...
o ayan... dami na-train na welder.
Wala naman i-we-welding.
Even if u got lots of manpower, pag walang MAMUMUHUNAN, wala mangyayari.
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we can talk about "The Filipino Can" all day.
we can talk about how talented and skillfull and intelligent pinoys are.
But at the end of the day, the question will be SINO ANG MAMUMUHUNAN?
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April 30th, 2008 11:55 AM #1
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April 30th, 2008 12:07 PM #2OT lang po.
don't wana create a new topic for this.
Hirap talaga mag negosyo dito sa Pinas.
Sakit sa ulo talaga...
Eto sakit sa ulo ng Globe Telecom... itong April palang...
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/92123/Su...-site-in-Albay
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...-Sorsogon-town
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakin...-site-in-Davao
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And remember the bus company whose buses got repeatedly burned by the NPA?
My whole point in posting all this is to show how difficult it is for an investor to do business here.
That's why many investors look to our neighbors instead of us.Last edited by uls; April 30th, 2008 at 12:18 PM.
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April 30th, 2008 12:19 PM #3Sige na itaas na nila wages by P125 across the board and I can assure you in a years time more people will be unsatisfied than we are now. The capitalist don't care if we die from hunger, they will take their money elsewhere
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April 30th, 2008 12:37 PM #4Yes, capitalists are a jittery and fickle bunch.
they are spooked easily and if u scare them, they will take their capital and run.
And what will u have left?
A bunch of skilled workers with nothing to work on.
Ya sure, they can put up their own shops.
Like everyone of them has enough money put away to use as capital.
Like everyone of them has a rich dad or rich uncle or rich friend to lend them money to start a business.
Like everyone of them can get a loan from a bank.
Subukan kaya nila mag IPO.
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April 30th, 2008 01:42 PM #5uls:
But at the end of the day, the question will be SINO ANG MAMUMUHUNAN?
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mamumuhunan ba kamo?
ehem ehem
joke hehe
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April 30th, 2008 02:25 PM #6hehe
pautang nga ng P50M
magtatayo ako ng pabrika sa Basilan
Bayaran kita ng installment pag kumikita na ang pabrika.
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April 30th, 2008 04:07 PM #7
Originally Posted by uls
tsk tsk tsk. . .iisa lang ang problema ng pilipinas: corrupt public officials whose only care is for personal gains. . .
wala namang malasakit sa bayan yang mga yan. . .the present rice crisis is an effect of corruption in the nfa
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April 30th, 2008 10:16 PM #8talaga naman yang mga politiko....
sayang tuloy yung Hanjin investment......sana ituloy na lang yung Steel plant..
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April 30th, 2008 11:43 PM #9Kahit ako naman siguro ayaw ko din kung susunugin pabrika at mga trucks mo ng NPA kung hindi ka nagbayad sakanila. Ilan kaya parte ng mga HRG?
Kawawa naman mga nag aral para maging weilder
Kung hindi siguro puro bad news nakikita ng mga businessman sa Pilipinas ay dami magnenegosyo dito...isa din may kasalanan ang media dito.
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May 1st, 2008 09:13 AM #11These workers are useless to them now since there is no shipyard to accomodate them. Originally Posted by ringostarr
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May 1st, 2008 09:23 AM #12panahon ng siguro para magkaroon ng sariling ship building industry ang pilipinas.
7,100 islands pero walang kakayahan gumawa ng barko.
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May 1st, 2008 11:10 AM #13 Originally Posted by fourtheboys96
Actually, your correct. pero meron naman na rin. There are small ship (small boats/ships. Navotas ata meron o Subic) build by local shipbuilding firms. Yung mamamaki ay nasa Bamban, cebu. Yung FBM-Aboitiz Bobcat Marine (supercat manufacturer)Tsuneishi Heavy Industries a shipbuilder. Hanji of course is one of the biggest. More shipbuilding and repair firms are coming in in Subic kaya yung mga welders may trabaho.
I definitely agree we have the talent and the potential to became a shipbuilding nation (historical: Galleon ships are made here by polistas in the Spanish period)
PS there is a dedicated course for that 3 year welding technology.Last edited by jpdm; May 1st, 2008 at 11:17 AM.
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May 1st, 2008 05:31 PM #14Mad scramble to save face...
http://www.gmanews.tv/story/92599/Ar...samis-OrientalArroyo asks Hanjin to stay in Misamis Oriental
CAGAYAN DE ORO CITY, Philippines - President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo and other government officials scrambled into action Wednesday to dissuade South Korean Hanjin Heavy Industries Construction Co. Ltd. from withdrawing the construction of the $2-billion shipyard facility in Villanueva, Misamis Oriental.
Arroyo met with Misamis Oriental Governor Oscar Moreno; Administrator Ninfa Albania of the Philippine Veterans Investments and Development Corporation (Phividec); Secretary Serge Remonde of the Presidential Management Staff, whom the President has designated as the secretary-in-charge for the Hanjin project; Undersecretary Boy Ibarle of PMS; Presidential Assistant for Northern Mindanao Jojo Popos; Tagoloan Mayor Paulino Emano; Villanueva Mayor Juliet Uy; Misamis Oriental 2nd District Representative Bambi Emano; and Northern Mindanao Regional Development Council Chair JJ Romualdo in Lumbia airport late Wednesday afternoon.
The huddle came after Hanjin managing director Myung Goo Kwon sent a letter to Albania expressing their desire to withdraw from the project.
"We are constrained to take this in view of the numerous adversities that beset the company's initial operations, to wit; negative and undue publicity of Hanjin projects both in Subic and Mindanao; local disturbances in the operations of the project; outstanding ROW (Right of Way) clearance and unfavorable actions therefrom," A Philippine star report quoted Myung.
Elisa Pabillore, Misamis Oriental Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) director said a pullout by Hanjin would have "serious ramifications" to Cagayan de Oro, Misamis Oriental, and the country's image of haven for business investments in Asia.
"It would take years to rebuild a shattered image. A damaged credibility is one of the many potential ramifications that would materialize in case Hanjin pulls out its investment," Pabillore said.
President Arroyo met with the officials before she went back to Manila after spending two days in Camiguin and Cagayan de Oro to inaugurate the Second Strong Republic Nautical Highway project. The meeting lasted for at least 30 minutes at the pre-departure lounge of the Lumbia airport.
One of Hanjin's headaches -- an executive order from Tagoloan town Mayor Paulino Emano that seeks to stop the construction -- was solved Wednesday after Emano and Villanueva town Mayor Juliette Uy relented.
Emano and Uy gave Hanjin the go signal to continue the construction after a lengthy discussion with PMS Usec Ebarle Wednesday afternoon.
"The dialogue (with Ebarle) opened the way for a much clearer understanding of certain points and issues raised by the concerned local executives," said a statement from the Department of Interior and Local Government (DILG)-Northern Mindanao office.
Emano earlier ordered Hanjin to stop the construction of the shipyard because the Korean firm failed to secure a municipal building permit and an Environmental Clearance Certificate (ECC).
On Wednesday, the Environmental Management Bureau (EMB) of the Department of Environment and Natural Resources (DENR) issued a permit that would allow the Korean firm to put up fences around its facility in Tagoloan and Villanueva towns.
Hanjin said the $2-billion facility is expected to employ about 45,000 people -- including engineers, welders, fabricators and administrative personnel -- within the next three years, when the shipyard is expected to become fully operational.
"Recently there are a series of investigations and hearings by the Senate and everyday there are articles in the media denouncing and condemning Hanjin. Nobody refers to the brighter side such as more than 10,000 employment," Hanjin said in a press statement.
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May 1st, 2008 05:53 PM #15Meron na palang natapos ung Hanjin. Hooray...Mga politicos talaga mga KSPs.
Something the leftist militants and dum*a** politicos don't know.Hanjin launches 1st ocean-going container carrier built in Subic
SUBIC BAY FREEPORT — In less than two years after the groundbreaking of its shipyard at the Redondo Peninsula here, Hanjin Heavy Industries Corp.-Philippines (HHIC-Phil) has launched the first container ship ever to be built in the Subic Bay Freeport.
According to Subic Bay Metropolitan Authority (SBMA) Feliciano Salonga, the vessel which is worth $60 million, was launched less than a year after Hanjin cut the steel used in shipbuilding at its shipyard here.
“It’s a remarkable achievement, considering that other ship builders would have taken at least 18 months after cutting the steel, to launch the same size of ship,”Salonga told The STAR yesterday.
Salonga said the ship is temporarily named PN-001 but it will be formally named by President Arroyo in June after completing its outfitting sea trials.
After the naming ceremony, the ship will be delivered officially to its Greek owner, the Dioryx Maritime Corp.
Salonga said the ship is designed for an optimum speed of 24.5 knots, or more than 45 kph.
“This is considered fast for sea-going commercial vessels,” said Salonga who, aside from being the father of famous stage and movie actress Lea Salonga, now considers himself the proud father, along with HHIC-Phil president Jeong Sup Shim, of PN-001.
Salonga said PN-001 will be the first of 16 container vessels of similar specifications to be built by Hanjin in Subic.
With the price of $60 million per ship, Salonga said the 16 ships ordered from Hanjin would cost a total of close to $1 billion.
Salonga said since about 40 percent of ship costs is spent on manpower, this means that about $400 million will go to salaries of workers at the Hanjin shipyard.
“This is a huge contribution to the local economy,” he added.
Salonga also said the critics of the controversial Hanjin apartment complex being built in the former US Navy ammunition depot in the forest of the Subic Bay Freeport should realize Hanjin’s economic contribution.
“For the Monday morning quarterbacks who have been busily kibitzing about Hanjin’s apartment complex, it is another case of the need to break eggs in order to make omelets,” Salonga said.
Hanjin, which is based in South Korea and now the fourth biggest shipbuilder in the world, is also the biggest investor here in Subic after it put up $1.7 billion for its shipyard project.
It now employs more than 10,000 workers, aside from those hired by its sub contractors.
Hanjin officials said the controversial $20-million apartment complex that the company is building in the Cubi-Triboa district here will be for the use of its Korean employees and their families, as well as some Filipino staff.
http://www.philstar.com/index.php?Bu...aid=2008042426Last edited by Monseratto; May 1st, 2008 at 05:59 PM.
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May 1st, 2008 08:33 PM #16sigurado masyado malaki ang hinihingi na lagay ang mga local officials ng Misamis kaya iniipit ang permits ng Hanjin.
it's a shame that it has to reach the point where an investor has given up and is deciding to pull out...
doon lang gagalaw ang chief exec...
But even if Hanjin decides not to pull out, word has already gotten out...
sigurado nagtatlong isip na ung mga foreign investors na nagdadalawang isip na mag invest dito.
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mga tao kasi sa gobyerno... ang tingin sa investor (local or foreign) -- WALKING WALLET.
kaliwa kanan lagay... lahat ng kilos lagay...
Eto naman mga environmentalist galit sa kahit ano klaseng development.
Ang gusto ng mga environmentalist ibalik ang pamumuhay ng tao sa pamumuhay ng mga caveman.
Eto naman media --- lalo na ang ABSCBN --- na ang airtime ng news nila ay 90% salita ng mga aktibista.
Sobra negative ang image ng Hanjin sa bias reporting ng ABSCBN.
OO meron nga namatay na empleyado ng Hanjin... TAPOS? Binayaran naman ng Hanjin ang mga pamilya. Ano ba gusto ng ABS? Magsara ang Hanjin dahil sa pagkamatay ng 3 empleyado?
OO yan ang gusto ng ABS.
E baket hindi nagsara ang ABS nung namatay ang mga tao sa stampede ng Wowowee?
Yung mga politiko naman puro papogi...
Protector daw sila ng karapatan ng mga mahirap...
Protector daw ng interest ng bansa...
ang dayuhan daw ay mapang api... ang Hanjin ay mapang api... ipasara daw ang Hanjin...
And we wonder why our economy cannot create enough jobs...
HAHAHALast edited by uls; May 1st, 2008 at 08:57 PM.
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May 1st, 2008 08:43 PM #17Sadly our polintikos vulture appetite will sink it. Originally Posted by jpdm
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May 1st, 2008 09:03 PM #18smalltime lang naman shipbuilders natin.
kelangan pa ng capital ng dayuhan para maging medium-time...
We are not even on the world shipbuilding map.
Talyer lang ang mga shipbuilders natin.
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May 1st, 2008 09:11 PM #19Pardon me, pero parang ang pait ng karanasan mo, uls.. Originally Posted by uls
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May 1st, 2008 09:36 PM #20haha do i sound bitter?
i'm just cynical.
Im just telling it like it is... i think i have seen enough to know how things work here.
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