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View Poll Results: Do you agree with GMA to commute all death sentences to life?

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  1. Join Date
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    #1
    if only mangyari din sa mga er, "human rights" at "pro-life" advocates yung mga nangyari sa mga biktima, malamang magbabago isip ng mga yan. :D

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    i say we should execute those criminals, televise it for the whole Filipinos to see and make them realize that crime do pay. look at what happened when Marcos ordered the execution of Lim Seng at Luneta for drug related crime.
    Amen!

    Kaso sana hindi palpak ang hustisya dito. Hindi ko sinasabing palpak, wish ko lang na hindi nga. :D

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    I am reminded of an old Ren & Stimpy cartoon wherein the boys try to get into jail so that they can get free meal and lodging. By removing the death penalty, this tactic will become more attractive to the hopeless. Imagine them not having to work for a living and get fed for it.
    Anyway, the death penalty isn't really a good deterrent when enforcement of the law is lax as it is here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bender
    I am reminded of an old Ren & Stimpy cartoon wherein the boys try to get into jail so that they can get free meal and lodging. By removing the death penalty, this tactic will become more attractive to the hopeless. Imagine them not having to work for a living and get fed for it.
    Anyway, the death penalty isn't really a good deterrent when enforcement of the law is lax as it is here.
    you have a point. baka ang madami batang kalye ang gumawa ng masama knowing na after nila gawin yun, for life na ang sustento nila from the govt.

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    Dapat yung pagsustento dyan sa mga ligtas sa death penalty e mga pro-lifers lang mag-shoulder. Parang special tax ba. Para naman ma-tax yung Catholic Church... ehehehe.

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    Btw, kahit agree me sa death penalty, agree din ako sa matagal ma-implement. Dapat exhaust all measures to know kung totoong guilty yung ma-execute.

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    #7
    Nakakuha ng kakampi ang mga kriminal.

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    i'll abstain from voting.

    para sa akin, there should be death penalty with chance of pardon, pero ung pamilya -- and only the pamilya -- lang ng napatay ang pwedeng mag pardon or mag commute ng sentence.


    imho all the logic, compassion and reasoning in the world goes out the window once ikaw/pamilya mo na ang apektado.
    Last edited by badkuk; April 18th, 2006 at 11:13 AM.

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    "Shoot out" na lang para wala ng death penalty.

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    CBCP: Commutation welcome but fight corruption too
    Article posted April 17, 2006, 2:52 pm

    The influential Catholic Bishops Conference of the Philippines on Monday also urged the government to fight "corruption, immorality, and poverty" to curb crime even as it welcomed President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo’s proclamation last Sunday commuting the death sentences of some 1,200 convicts.

    "The control of criminality as well as the reform of society is a common responsibility of the government, church and civil society. Corruption, immorality and poverty breed criminality. Therefore, less of these would mean less criminality. Crime breeds crime," CBCP president Angel Lagdameo wrote in his web log.

    Lagdameo said the Church welcomed the mass commutation of death convicts' sentences to life imprisonment but added that the government must also address the prisoners’ rehabilitation.

    "The rehabilitation and reformation of pardoned criminals must also be assured for the continuing peace and harmony in society," he said.

    He also said the CBCP hopes that such a move will not just be limited to a presidential act, but that Congress would altogether abolish the death penalty through legislation.

    "Society in fact has the means of effectively suppressing crime by rendering criminals harmless without definitively denying them the chance to reform… The growing aversion of public opinion towards the death penalty and the various provisions aimed at abolishing it or suspending its application constitute visible manifestation of a heightened moral consciousness," he added.-GMANews.TV
    tama nga naman.... wala ngang death penalty pero puro corrupt naman nsa gobyerno, eh di wala din asenso. ;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by baiskee
    tama nga naman.... wala ngang death penalty pero puro corrupt naman nsa gobyerno, eh di wala din asenso. ;)
    As I've said before... it is not only the government that is corrupt... but its citizens as well. Who are the ones who bribe government officials? Who are the ones who are not paying their right taxes?

    We get the government that we deserve.

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    Well, if we're considering the possibly innocent, then I do agree that commutation of death sentences is a good idea.

    What's an even better idea is a thorough review of all those cases. Would cost money, but would be even better for the possibly innocent ones, as instead of a death sentence or life imprisonment, they get out of jail... free.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #13
    Sa ginawa ni GMA......isa sa mga natuwa dito si ERAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chua_riwap
    Sa ginawa ni GMA......isa sa mga natuwa dito si ERAP.
    GANUN BA? NASENTENSIYAHAN NA BA?

    PREPARE LANG NI GMA SARILI....

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    yes. I agree ... Have you gone to Munti..makulong ka dun katumbas nun ay Impierno na..hindi nyo ba napapansin ang Ibang Pari laban kay GMA nun una gusto nila maalis ang Death sentence lalo na yung (running priest at yung bading na Pari) ngayon ipina pa Commute ni GMA disagree sila, Wake-up pe0ple NILOLOKO tayo ng mga pari at politico guess what ano say ni Tita cory(nun buhay si ninoy..bla..bla..bla..) Hilo na ang madlang people sa panloloko ng mga kupaloos na ito..WALA NAMAN KAYONG IPAPALIT,,,SINO?.
    Give chance to our brothers,,they have also have right to live...O erap masaya ka na di ka na makakatay!!!!

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    For the Christian who believe in the Bible… The first heinous crime was committed by Cain who murdered his brother Abel. Did God punish Cain by physical death? No. Instead He gave commandment that who so ever kill Cain will take seven punishment. So that Cain can repent.

    Death penalty is not the answer nor can help to improve the injustice system in our society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ss3wiper
    For the Christian who believe in the Bible… The first heinous crime was committed by Cain who murdered his brother Abel. Did God punish Cain by physical death? No. Instead He gave commandment that who so ever kill Cain will take seven punishment. So that Cain can repent.

    Death penalty is not the answer nor can help to improve the injustice system in our society.
    naku dont quote the bible, i can find another story where God did otherwise -- remember Noah's Ark? why did God flooded the earth? diba he said to Noah na the people were very evil so he had to punish them? did God not order David to kill those who were evil? what else... they were alot of stories in the bible that dealt with death as punishment by God

    the death penalty is not a cure, you cannot bring anyone back from life by causing another death, but a prevention - if people know the consequences of what they do then they will refrain from doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miLes
    naku dont quote the bible, i can find another story where God did otherwise -- remember Noah's Ark? why did God flooded the earth? diba he said to Noah na the people were very evil so he had to punish them? did God not order David to kill those who were evil? what else... they were alot of stories in the bible that dealt with death as punishment by God
    that's the Old Testament... in the New Testament - forgiveness was the central theme... the line in Our Father sums this up: "forgive us our sins as we forgive those who sin against us".

    Quote Originally Posted by miLes
    the death penalty is not a cure, you cannot bring anyone back from life by causing another death, but a prevention - if people know the consequences of what they do then they will refrain from doing it.
    death as a prevention? come on...

    5 million people die each year because of smoking-related diseases. that's more than the violence/crime/war related deaths combined. and yet people are still voluntarily lighting up their cigarettes.

    and also... viewing capital punishment and even jail terms as a punishment is a bit old school... humanitarian thinking would tend to view it as a reformation opportunity for those that are guilty/convicted.

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    now take a look at those countries that still practice death penalty actively (those in red). most of them are 3rd world countries. we want to be a developed nation yet we still live like savages.
    May study bang nagpapatunay na may epekto ang pagpapatupad ng death penalty sa economy ng isang bansa? Kung meron, paki share naman. :D

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    Quote Originally Posted by kris06
    May study bang nagpapatunay na may epekto ang pagpapatupad ng death penalty sa economy ng isang bansa? Kung meron, paki share naman. :D

    Saudi Arabia

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