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    May point yung forensic expert ah

    The Tribune - Charlie V. Manalo, Mario J. Mallari and Paul Atienza
    Nov. 29, 2013

    FORENSIC EXPERT BARES NOY’S INCOMPETENCE, IGNORANCE

    A respected and well-known forensic expert in the Philippines whose services were tapped by the Department of Health (DoH) to help identify the bodies in typhoon-ravaged Tacloban but had to pull out after being insulted by her counterparts from the National Bureau of Investigation (NBI), yesterday lashed out at President Aquino, saying his latest pronouncement on the slow body count had only exposed the extent of his incompetence and ignorance.

    In her twitter account which had been going viral, forensic expert, Dr. Raquel Fortun, said Aquino’s statement defending the National Disaster Risk Reduction and Management Council (NDRRMC) for its slow and low “Yolanda” casualty count, had only exposed the President’s gross incompetence and ignorance.

    In his statement the other day, Aquino was quoted saying that the NDRRMC had been relatively slow in its body count as it had to make sure of its data before releasing any figure of the dead.
    The belief is that Aquino had ordered the NDRRMC director to bring down the death count, as Aquino had publicly estimated the death toll at 2,000 only.

    “It’s because you have to make sure that there is the certification or a coroner’s report before it is made official,” Aquino said in reference to the supposed body-count procedure.
    However, Fortun rebutted him in her twitter account, saying Aquino obviously does not know what he is talking about.

    “Certification of a coroner’s report is needed before a body is counted?” Fortun said.
    “Do you know Mr. President that we don’t have coroners in the Philippines?” She pointed out.
    When a follower in her account told her that it could have been what Aquino’s advisers told him, Fortun retorted: “Shhh! His advisers also don’t know that.”

    Fortun also lamented at how Aquino is running his government saying it was much better during the time of former President, now Pampanga Rep. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
    “Arroyo’s term may not have been spanking clean. But at least there was a sense that we were governed,” she said.

    Fortun also noted a major difference between Aquino and Arroyo saying Arroyo was not afraid to face and confront any problem,but that Aquino is too allergic to hear any negative news.
    “With former President GMA, you throw all the problems at her and she will deal with them. But the one who is sitting now is allergic to bad news,” Fortun said.

    “So, if your boss does not like bad news, you are out of place with him. Thus you also end up delivering only good news to him,” she said.

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    Raquel Fortun ‏*Doc4Dead 6h

    "Walang first responders ang nat'l govt. Puro sila support. Papasok lang sila after a week."*PilStarNgayon *PhilstarNews

    *TitaLuv13 *ceso And foul play is defined as negligence of non-partymate.

    They keep shooting themselves in the foot. While it's in their mouth.

    Yolanda's death toll is very likely 10K by now and may go up to as many 20K. So will I be getting a memo from the President of the PHL?

    At isasagot ni Mangmang Mar ay "There is an agency for that! Maayos na yan. Don't bring it up anymore."

    I went to 7am meeting of Roxas, talk was only about body retrieval. When I tried to discuss identification it was dismissed.

    So the forensic team was formed only to show that admin was doing something about the dead? And I fell for that? *facepalm+DOH ala Homer*

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    Fortun also lamented at how Aquino is running his government saying it was much better during the time of former President, now Pampanga Rep. Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.
    “Arroyo’s term may not have been spanking clean. But at least there was a sense that we were governed,” she said.

    Fortun also noted a major difference between Aquino and Arroyo saying Arroyo was not afraid to face and confront any problem,but that Aquino is too allergic to hear any negative news.
    “With former President GMA, you throw all the problems at her and she will deal with them. But the one who is sitting now is allergic to bad news,” Fortun said.

    “So, if your boss does not like bad news, you are out of place with him. Thus you also end up delivering only good news to him,” she said.
    Ay tanga din pala itong si Fortun. :hysterical:

    Business opportunity ang calamity during the time of gloria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Ay tanga din pala itong si Fortun. :hysterical:

    Business opportunity ang calamity during the time of gloria.
    her points were valid until gma came up, ano eto gma's PR?
    Last edited by greenlyt; November 29th, 2013 at 03:05 PM.

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    malaki yata kinita ni fortun panahon ni PGMA? hmmmmm
    kaya namimis nya yung araw na maraming pinapapatay si arroyo :hysterical:
    para marami syang ma autopsy :rofl:

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    Ok na sana ang banat ni Fortun. Ikaw ba naman nandun ng ilang araw then bigla na lang may mag take over ng trabaho mo at sabihing mali ang ginagawa mo.

    Kaso hihirit ng mas magaling pa si Arroyo. Para lang tanga.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenlyt View Post
    her points are valid until gma came up, ano eto gma's PR?

    oo nga eh. ok na sana eh.
    biglang ipinasok si pandak.........

    nawala tuloy pagka-bilib ko sa kanya.

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    mukhang tama naman si doc, mejo close ermats ko sa mga tao ni GMA noon, micromanager daw talaga si GMA, ultimo yung mga signboard sa edsa eh pinapakialaman.

    Kaya siguro lagi sila may 10%, hehe

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    Maganda nga yung comparison ni raquel fortun.

    Gloria government -super corrupt pero pag may calamity or any problem talaga hindi basta natitinag. Ang fault talaga niya yung asawa nya ginawa negosyo government.

    Noynoy government - Mr clean, daan matuwid pero pag may calamity doon talaga nasisira. Pag naalala ko yung bagong president palang noynoy nung bumaha natawa ako takot pala sa tubig baha. Kaya nung after ng earthquake sa bohol doon daw matutulog presidente sa tent na cowoby na cowboy dating. Palow-key pa na ayaw pa interview na serious cowboy genuine yung ginawa.

    Ang nagustuhan ko kay noynoy yung talaga sinugod nya si nur misuari. Pero pag calamity kadiri ang baha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Ay tanga din pala itong si Fortun. :hysterical:

    Business opportunity ang calamity during the time of gloria.
    Ganun ba? Ngayon ba hindi? Repacking and replacement of relief goods , hoarded relief goods, etc.
    Why do you think CNN has come out with that report against politicking of the relief goods.
    Why do you think foreign donors decided to directly distribute the goods to the victims.
    And that piss off the crooks in this govt, that they want taxes on cash donations and relief goods not channeled thru govt agencies.
    At the time of Ondoy, Noynoy was at Eraps mansion discussing his plan to run in 2010. When it came out to the press, Kris reacted by showing her distributing relief goods thats not even hers. And commenting she is the first to do so.
    Went to Tacloban on the 3rd day to plucked out a relative stranded in a hotel. I felt the govt doesn't exist there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Ganun ba? Ngayon ba hindi? Repacking and replacement of relief goods , hoarded relief goods, etc.
    Why do you think CNN has come out with that report against politicking of the relief goods.
    Why do you think foreign donors decided to directly distribute the goods to the victims.
    And that piss off the crooks in this govt, that they want taxes on cash donations and relief goods not channeled thru govt agencies.
    At the time of Ondoy, Noynoy was at Eraps mansion discussing his plan to run in 2010. When it came out to the press, Kris reacted by showing her distributing relief goods thats not even hers. And commenting she is the first to do so.
    Went to Tacloban on the 3rd day to plucked out a relative stranded in a hotel. I felt the govt doesn't exist there.
    Huh? Err? What?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    Ganun ba? Ngayon ba hindi? Repacking and replacement of relief goods , hoarded relief goods, etc.
    Why do you think CNN has come out with that report against politicking of the relief goods.
    Why do you think foreign donors decided to directly distribute the goods to the victims.
    And that piss off the crooks in this govt, that they want taxes on cash donations and relief goods not channeled thru govt agencies.
    At the time of Ondoy, Noynoy was at Eraps mansion discussing his plan to run in 2010. When it came out to the press, Kris reacted by showing her distributing relief goods thats not even hers. And commenting she is the first to do so.
    Went to Tacloban on the 3rd day to plucked out a relative stranded in a hotel. I felt the govt doesn't exist there.
    IMHO, mas worst ngayon. kahit naman ngayon may corruption din in times of calamity. remember the dswd repacking incident at mactan airbase? malaysian donated food packs were repacked with dswd plastic bags less the corned beef and noodles. till now, i just cant figure out why it took 3 days to deliver food packs to tacloban. ang inaabangan ko, yong mungkahi ni abad na mangutang sa labas ng bansa and use the undistributed pdaf/dap. to rehab leyte. sounds big money, for their super duper deep pockets.

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    ^ Here we go again.

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    Lahat talaga ke PNoy ang sisi. Well, siya kasi ang leader. Pero lets take a look sa ibang politicians other than him. Where's Tanda, Pogi, and ***y nung Yolanda? Also, where is Brenda that time?

    Look, we all know how incompetent ang current admin natin. Pero who should be blamed, them? Hindi ba dapat muna natin sisihin kung bakit nagkakaganito eh WE/US the voters? Eh sino ba kasing tatanga-tanga ang bumoto sa mga nandyan ngayon sa government?

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    Quote Originally Posted by testament11 View Post
    Lahat talaga ke PNoy ang sisi. Well, siya kasi ang leader. Pero lets take a look sa ibang politicians other than him. Where's Tanda, Pogi, and ***y nung Yolanda? Also, where is Brenda that time?

    Look, we all know how incompetent ang current admin natin. Pero who should be blamed, them? Hindi ba dapat muna natin sisihin kung bakit nagkakaganito eh WE/US the voters? Eh sino ba kasing tatanga-tanga ang bumoto sa mga nandyan ngayon sa government?
    A good argument could be how would you know if one is an "intellectual" voter or one is a "stupid" voter. Lahat ng pagpipiliang kandidato ay mga trapo at may pansariling interes lalo na sa national level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ClaNker View Post
    Ay tanga din pala itong si Fortun. :hysterical:

    Business opportunity ang calamity during the time of gloria.
    I think this is only a joke. Wonder why people are reacting too seriously with this comment. Duh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post
    I think this is only a joke. Wonder why people are reacting too seriously with this comment. Duh.
    Doesn't look like Fortun was joking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chookchakchenes View Post
    ]Raquel Fortun ‏*Doc4Dead 6h

    "Walang first responders ang nat'l govt. Puro sila support. Papasok lang sila after a week."*PilStarNgayon *PhilstarNews

    *TitaLuv13 *ceso And foul play is defined as negligence of non-partymate.

    They keep shooting themselves in the foot. While it's in their mouth.

    Yolanda's death toll is very likely 10K by now and may go up to as many 20K. So will I be getting a memo from the President of the PHL?

    At isasagot ni Mangmang Mar ay "There is an agency for that! Maayos na yan. Don't bring it up anymore."

    I went to 7am meeting of Roxas, talk was only about body retrieval. When I tried to discuss identification it was dismissed.

    So the forensic team was formed only to show that admin was doing something about the dead? And I fell for that? *facepalm+DOH ala Homer*
    much of the country only sees and reads about the government's performance on media

    they just have to look like they're doing their job on media

    it doesnt have be real

    it just has to look real
    Last edited by uls; November 29th, 2013 at 02:07 PM. Reason: to look like

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    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    much of the country only sees and reads about the government's performance on media

    they just have look like they're doing their job on media

    it doesnt have be real

    it just has to look real
    agree to this!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chookchakchenes View Post
    May point yung forensic expert ah

    student council govt from day 1

    3.5 years into the presidency still student council govt


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    nakaka-stress kasi ang bad news

    http://tsikot.com/forums/miscellaneo...3/index13.html
    Quote Originally Posted by uls View Post
    kung pwede lang hindi na humarap sa media

    kung pwede lang hindi na pumunta sa disaster areas after mag bagyo o lindol

    kung pwede lang sa office lang araw araw... nag iinternet tulad natin

    pero hinde eh

    mataas ang expectation ng publiko sa presidente

    PNoy, bet you didnt expect ganyan kahirap ang trabaho ,ng presidente no?

    akala niyo ng mga kaibigan mo buhay hari kayo for 6 years no?

    pa-fun-run fun-run lang ng Porsche 911 sa SCTEX

    bad trip ba tuwing may bagyo? kailangan pumunta sa mga disaster area para ipakita sa tao may malasakit ka

    nakakatamad no?

    haaay hirap talaga ng buhay
    Last edited by uls; November 29th, 2013 at 01:09 PM.

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