Is Fraternity/Sorority A Must in Schools?

[dreamur]

I was just waiting for somebody to post the story about the hazing victim who died recently and watching the cctv footages inside the condo were just terrifying. I am a bit disturbed as my son is staying at One Archer but in a different wing but still the reality about fraternity is entirely incomprehensible to me. I finished 2 degrees in 3 different universities yet I never got invited by any group. What are they looking for in a frat member?

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[Calistro]

Yung mga bata palang na may sabi na sa school at kaya dalhin ang sarili, for 'future' references pag tanda. Or un mga naive na walang alam na naghahanap ng masasamahan, dagdag sa numbers at bata heheh.

[170kphlang]

i was invited before but i politely turned it down. di naman nagalit or anything. we're still all friends till now.

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[uls]

they always say makakatulong daw ang fraternity sa career but i doubt those college kids are thinking long term

one major factor is "protection"... kailangan may resbak kasi madami war freak sa college

another motivator is the coolness factor

fratboys are cool and get lots of chicks kaya madami gusto sumali sa mga frat

so the motives in joining frats are actually quite primitive --- violence and ***

[foresterx]

i have friends that joined tau gamma and aquila legis. i keep telling them they're idiots for joining. anyone who would willingly let themselves get hurt just for the sake of their so called "brotherhood" is an idiot. ang tunay na kaibigan di ka iiwanan at di kelangan ng hazing hazing para tulungan ka. yan mga frat frat na yan tutulungan ka lang nan pag alam nila lamang sila pero pag lugi kayo good luck na lang sa iyo. dami ko barkada sumali sa mga frat na yan and guess what after you graduate wala din maitulong sa kanila, sa away ganon din kanya kanyang takbo pag argabyado na sila.

in my opinion those who joins fraternities lack self respect, self confidence and losers in life so they join frats to be in the "in crowd". yung mga klase ng tao na kahit ano gawin nila loser sila so they join a fraternity kasi yon na lang ang paraan nila para mapansin ng mga taga school nila.

[170kphlang]

kaya most if not all the time, victims na namatay sa hazing don't get that much sympathy from people who use their brains and people with common sense

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[CLAVEL3699]

hindi lahat nang frat masama ang influence at hindi lahat nang frat ay gumagawa nang hazing.

Our frat ay walang hazing but mahihirapan ka talaga sa utos at papagudin ka para sumunod pero walang sakitan, sa amin kailangan ma-achieved mo ang grade point average na pinatutupad namin.

Tulungan sa pag-aaral ang pinaiiral namin, may savings kami para matulungan ang mga member na kapos sa pera dahil hindi na kaya ang gastos sa pag aaral. Lahat nang alumni ay may share para matuloy yun.

May frat na maayos ang pamamalakad may frat naman na hindi kaya kailangan alamin din kung maayos ang frat.

[CLAVEL3699]

in my opinion those who joins fraternities lack self respect, self confidence and losers in life so they join frats to be in the "in crowd". yung mga klase ng tao na kahit ano gawin nila loser sila so they join a fraternity kasi yon na lang ang paraan nila para mapansin ng mga taga school nila.

Ang frat namin ay hindi kailangan magpakilala ka na ikaw isang member. Kilala ang frat namin pero hindi pwedeng magpakilala na isa kang fratman namin. Hindi lahat nang frat ay ganun.

Sila Marcos at Ninoy ay LOSER.

[NiCe2KnowU]

karamihan ng frat ay mga nagaaral ng law
natatawa nga ako bakit hrm eh magpa frat
tsk tsk nasayang tuloy buhay nya
karamihan dyan eh napipilitan sumali dahil tutulungan sila
na maipasa ang bar nila.
karamihan ng nayayaya dyan yung mahlig sa barkada
at mahina sa school.

[badkuk]

Yes it's a "must".....


..."must avoid at all costs".


Sad to say, meron kasing ibang nauuto into joining the frat...then endure and stay in the frat "out of honor". Ganyan siguro style nila, para kung nagkaipitan, they can say that the neophyte joined them of their own free will.

i (sort of) understand why people feel they need to join frats like these, but, think about it, these people beat up innocent neophytes whom they've never met, never had a grudge with, and maybe even take pleasure from the beatings. A few words come to mind: psychopath. sociopath. sadist. Or maybe even worse, sheep who just follow "tradition".


Why the hell would i want to be brothers with these people?


Yung iba namang matitinong frats: why not use another term kaya para di madamay sa mga gagong frats? e.g. call yourselves an org, club, etc? Kinda like marketing ^_^

[dreamur]

^ I agree with you badluk. I am sure not all fraternities have bad reputation the fact the reason they are not in the news. Media loves sensationalized and crime stories kaya pabalik-balik un pangalan sa palaging sabit sa gulo. Dapat hindi frat ang tawag sa kanila kundi kulto parang sputnik, sige2, batang city jail, etc.

Thanks for all the feedbacks. Medyo naka hinga rin knowing my son is not the type who craves attention from the outside. Palaging sumasama sa amin pag weekends kasi libre daw. Pag sa bahay naman, basta may Dota at LOL, ayos na. I think parents too may be responsible when such things happen because they did not give their kids enough attention (and probably love).

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[ClaNker]

Definitely NO. Kalokohan yang hazing na yan or the "psychological test" daw.

Sagot ko lang sa kaibigan kong noon eh... "Sige sa isang kundisyon, ako naman gugulpi sa inyo after nyo akong ma gulpi."

[111prez]

Fratman (greek letter, UP Diliman) here and please do not generalize.

I joined my present fraternity for the ideals it embodied.

Likewise, maganda din ang connections.

[Walter]

This will definitely stir up the hornet's nest ...

Are Masons a frat group for grown ups?

[uls]

replace the word "gangs" with "frats"

Gang Alternatives Program (GAP)

Some reasons include:

A Sense of "Family" - Young people might feel that they don't receive enough support or attention at home. They may be trying to escape a negative home life, or may be looking for a father figure. Gangs often make promises to give unconditional support, and to become the "family" they never had.

Need for food or money - Gangs may present themselves as a means of survival to youth who lack basic essentials such as food, clothing and shelter. More and more, gang members use their affiliation to make a profit through illegal activities, such as selling drugs and auto theft.

Desire for protection - Communities with high gang activity often see young people join a gang just to survive. It is often easier to join the gang than to remain vulnerable and unprotected in their neighborhoods.

Peer Pressure - Kids and teens face constant pressure to fit in, and they may not have the support they need to avoid the pressures to join a gang. Peer pressure can come in the form of intimidation, coercion, a dare, harassment, friendly persuasion, or repetitious begging.

Family history or tradition - Families can have gang involvement spanning over multiple generations. This is one of the toughest forms of pressure to escape, as the gang lifestyle is deeply rooted in family traditions and values.

Excitement - Some young people get a rush out of defying authority, or committing crimes. They may be attracted to the gang lifestyle, as it lives outside the law and participates in many illicit behaviors.

To Appear Cool - Gangs have mastered the art of manipulation to attract potential recruits. They wear the latest fashion trends, throw the hottest parties, and drive the coolest cars. They can appear to have the 'perfect' lifestyle to a young kid who's looking to fit in somewhere. The offer an image of "cool" that has been glorified by the media and entertainment industry.

same thing

[uls]

This will definitely stir up the hornet's nest ...

Are Masons a frat group for grown ups?

grown up men are still like teenage boys who have a need to belong in a group

[dreamur]

Fratman (greek letter, UP Diliman) here and please do not generalize.

I joined my present fraternity for the ideals it embodied.

Likewise, maganda din ang connections.

Bro, I believe somebody made the stereotype comment but not me. No offense meant but I am just trying to understand the rationale behind joining a frat so I can provide my son the proper perspective should he decide to join one someday. That being said, can you share your reasons for becoming a frat member and the positive results for being one? If I am convinced, I might even encourage my son to join so he can outgrow his love for online games!

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[uls]

man has a tendency to form groups

i think it's called tribalism

it's an evolved response to the threat of intergroup violence that was common in ancient human environments (still common today actually)

[Ry_Tower]

Sa school wala ganyan eh, bawal, pero dahil tumatambay ako sa Up dati, may nag-alok din pero I just politely turned them down.

I think kung ang frat walang hazing, that's a good sign. Yung tipong alipin ka nga lang or katulong sa bahay, may ganun nga kasi na initiation ilang barkada ko dito. Pero yung hazing, hindi ako naniniwala dyan.

[oj88]

Back when I was in school, my cousin asked me for advice as it seems that he was being recruited by a frat. I jokingly told him that I'd spit and pee on his grave if ever he died from hazing or in one of the inevitable gang riots.

He thankfully declined the offer and he's now an accomplished surgeon working abroad.