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  • Fed/Parliamentary

    10 83.33%
  • Fed/Presidential

    1 8.33%
  • Dati na nating Presidential

    3 25.00%
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  1. Join Date
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    * dbuzz

    kasi para sa akin wala talagang diperensya ang sistema, hindi kasi ako naniniwala na ang pag unlad ng isang bansa ay magdedepende sa sistema ng gobyerno nito.

    sa tingin ko naman, kung ang mga nakaupo o ang mailuluklok natin eh magiging tapat at gagawin ng mabuti trabaho nila, magiging maayos naman ang bansa at gobyerno natin. pero kelangan parin ng tulong natin mga mamamayan.

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    i believe that the system has its effects. just imagine if our government was communist or dictatorial
    Damn, son! Where'd you find this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by c_cube View Post
    * dbuzz

    kasi para sa akin wala talagang diperensya ang sistema, hindi kasi ako naniniwala na ang pag unlad ng isang bansa ay magdedepende sa sistema ng gobyerno nito.

    sa tingin ko naman, kung ang mga nakaupo o ang mailuluklok natin eh magiging tapat at gagawin ng mabuti trabaho nila, magiging maayos naman ang bansa at gobyerno natin. pero kelangan parin ng tulong natin mga mamamayan.
    A leader that put the interest of the nation first rather than the interest of their pockets

    Kita nyo ba kung paano yumaman ang mga marcos kasabay ng paglubog ng pilipinas

    Ng magumpisa maging presidente si marcos pangalawa lang sa japan ang ekonomiya ng pilipinas. Matapos ang 20 taon ni marcos sa kapangyarihan naiwan na tayo ng mga karatig bansa natin sa ASEAN. Nagparliamentary form of govt na din tayo sa pamumuno ni marcos

    At the rate we are trashing constitution, theres no stopping a new federal state from declaring indipendence to join another federation in the region once their seed money goes empty due to corruption. We end up disintegrating the republic just like what happened to yugoslavia

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    A bit geographically discriminating but on point.

    By Philip Lustre Jr.

    THE NOT-SO HIDDEN AGENDA. The problem with the proponents of the proposed shift to a federal system is that they are so crude and crass to advance their agenda. They are not subtle. Their intentions are easily discernible. They can't hide they are salivating to stay in power forever.

    They can't hide the following:

    1. The proposed shift to federal system is an attempt to reimpose authoritarianism. They could not explain why an already unified country would have to be broken into 18 federated states. Neither could they explain why a dictator has to be installed to keep the proposed 18 federated states into a cohesive country.

    2. The proposed federal shift is an attempt to extend their term of office without the rigors of electoral processes. This is the biggest encouragement for lawmakers to push for their agenda. They are virtually being bribed. Those who would oppose the proposed change would have no budget, as the bully of Mindanao has stated. Too crude and primitive. The Speaker is like a caveman using his club to get what he wants.

    3. Those leaders from Mindanao and elsewhere could not be trusted for pushing the federalism agenda. They are too crude to consider the thinking of their siblings from Luzon and teh Visayas, who comprise the majority. This is the reason they are likely to see crashing defeat.

    4. There's hardly any efforts to present their arguments in the most convincing ways. All they do it to impose their views. They are not used to argue in the market place of ideas. All they do is conduct a carrot and stick approach. Bribe the people who would agree and punish those who would oppose. They have no patience for prolonged publish discussions and debates. They are so used to impositions.

    5. The proponents of federalism lack the intellectual elan and sophistication unlike their antagonists. They are intellectually crude and primitive. Pang-Mindanao lang talaga.

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    haha that's exactly what i refer to as a condescending Manila-based elistist

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    A bit geographically discriminating but on point.
    A little? More like a lot.

    The validity of the points he raised is overshadowed by his douchey manner.

    I don't support federalism but posts like that don't help in garnering support against the shift in government. It just fuels divisiveness and hampers real discourse and information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    A little? More like a lot.

    The validity of the points he raised is overshadowed by his douchey manner.

    I don't support federalism but posts like that don't help in garnering support against the shift in government. It just fuels divisiveness and hampers real discourse and information.

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    Somehow I agree. If your reasoning is correct and the facts supports such conclusion, no need for harsh word. Just say it as it is.

    Federalism is too costly, divisive and backward thinking for a country that is very regionalistic.

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    Sound Bites
    “Expenditure will be immense if we go to federalism, and we estimate that the fiscal deficit to the GDP ratio can easily jump to maybe 6 percent or more, and that’s really going to wreak havoc in terms of our fiscal situation. We are now moving to connect the…lagging regions into the mainstream economy and that momentum of infrastructure improvement in the regions is going to be disrupted.”
    ~Socioeconomic Planning Sec. Ernesto Pernia

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    ^ pernia being fired.in 3...2...1...

    Seriously, you know the possibilities are dire when even your neda chief is advising you to just quit it.

    do what you gotta do so you can do what you wanna do

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    We'll know later if DICT chief Elseo Rio is next. He's at loggerheads with Dominguez who wants an auction of frequencies. Magreresign daw pag di nasunod ang kanyang CLoS proposal.

    sorry OT na pala

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    We'll know later if DICT chief Elseo Rio is next. He's at loggerheads with Dominguez who wants an auction of frequencies. Magreresign daw pag di nasunod ang kanyang CLoS proposal.

    sorry OT na pala
    No it is not OT imho. Kasi sa federalism kanya-kanyang policy yan.

    Yung wala connection, mas kamatis kasi wala na pupuntahang central gov't dahil sasabihin nun dun ka sa fed state mo magreklamo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    No it is not OT imho. Kasi sa federalism kanya-kanyang policy yan.

    Yung wala connection, mas kamatis kasi wala na pupuntahang central gov't dahil sasabihin nun dun ka sa fed state mo magreklamo.

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    Ah so esentially it will decentralize the power and rewards to do kurakot. Kaya pala andaming tumutulak dito

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Ah so esentially it will decentralize the power and rewards to do kurakot. Kaya pala andaming tumutulak dito
    Siyempre mawawala middleman na executivw department and senate. Hari na mga tongressman at gobblenadors. Hehehe

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    Kanyang kanya government. Yung central government lang sa foreign policy and defense. Yung hawak ng purse mga governors... Kaya atat sa governorship si Bato kaysa maging senador.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Kanyang kanya government. Yung central government lang sa foreign policy and defense. Yung hawak ng purse mga governors... Kaya atat sa governorship si Bato kaysa maging senador.

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    Senate will be inutile in federalism hehehe

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    dilg cha cha campaign continues to intensify amidst the covid19 pandemic

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    F. Sionil Jose
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    July 6, 2020

    Leila De Lima, former Secretary of Justice has been in prison for so long. She deserves bail and her day in court. Her case is far more important and relevant than the libel conviction of Maria Ressa.

    Salvador Panelo, the Presidential Legal Counsel, can perhaps explain why Leila de Lima is treated this way. Panelo’s rebuttal of Duterte’s critics is logical, and his delivery on TV is cool, low key.

    Lucy Torres Gomez, the Congresswoman from Leyte, deserves attention. She has taken an unpopular stand by supporting the anti-terror bill the President signed into law. Those who opposed it consider it as a threat to democracy and could lead to tyranny and dictatorship. This is what happened to Hitler when he was given tremendous powers after the Reichstag fire. But Filipinos are not Germans. Even in the darkest days of the Marcos regime, there was comparative freedom for so many of us.

    Mike Defensor, Party List Representative in Congress, has enemies who don’t like his anti-ABS-CBN stand. His critic traces Mike Defensor’s origin as University of the Philippines libertarian and accuses him of selling out in his reach for power. I disagree; he and the other Congressmen opposing ABS-CBN are the real champions of democracy. I urge my readers to read again my column, “Don’t give your balls to the oligarchy.”

    General Hermogenes Esperon Jr. is walking more sprightly these days. I think that many in our Armed Forces are happy that President Duterte revoked his earlier decision to invalidate the Visiting Forces Agreement with the United States. The modernization of the Armed Forces continues with the acquisition of new fighter jets and the newly commissioned BRP Jose Rizal, the missile frigate from South Korea. This, at a time when tensions between the United States and China continue to rise in the South China Sea.

    Former Justice Antonio Carpio is very much concerned about China’s militarization of the reefs and shoals that China has transformed into bases for its armed forces. Anytime now, if China so decides, it may also militarize the Scarborough Shoal right at our front door. Indeed, with this pandemic and China and India already in armed confrontation in their Himalayan border, we are living not only in interesting times but dangerous times.

    Ambeth Ocampo – the historian echoes his teacher, Teddy Agoncillo, when he says no records, no history. In terms of scholarship, records matter. But much of history, even within our time, is not recorded, for which reason there is what is called oral history, undocumented origin of events which explain why they happened at all. But perhaps, Ambeth is right for that oral history known only to a few people who participated in this historical event have to write down what they know.

    General Loven Abadia, former Air Force top brass is one such individual who was present and privy to so many events in our history. He is slowly revealing them on the Internet, all of them interesting reading, contributing to our understanding of our past.

    Retired General Ramon Farolan is one columnist I always read not only for his intelligence but for his reminiscences. As an Air Force officer, he was the personification of rectitude and the honor that the Philippine Military Academy instilled in its students. His father, Modesto Farolan, was in journalism as publisher of the post-war Philippines Herald.

    Gilbert Teodoro jr. was formerly Defense Minister in the Gloria Arroyo government. Army officers say he was one of the best Defense Ministers ever. He’s now in private practice, trying to recoup his expenses when he ran for president two elections ago. I hope our talented and upright people, the best graduates of our universities, go into government. This is the ongoing experience in Japan; the best graduates from the Universities of Tokyo and Kyoto join the civil service which explains the excellence and durability of Japan’s bureaucracy. Would the same practice apply to the Philippines? Again, the culture difference which tells us what works in other countries may not work for us.

    Conchita Carpio Morales, a short time back, lectured at the Ateneo on the Culture of Corruption in this country. A former Ombudsman, Conchita Carpio Morales is also a recipient of The Ramon Magsaysay Award. Though retired, I hope she will not abjure government service. In her lecture, she traced the origins of corruption and then mentioned examples. In the question period, I asked her why all those crooks – though publicly identified as corrupt, are still very much in power. Conchita answered – I should direct that question to the Filipino people.

    Crispin Maslog is an academic who specialized in mass communication and the masa. He has studied small town newspapers and the effects of the Marcos dictatorship on press freedom. The last time I talked with him, he was planning a conference on freedom of communication. I asked him to focus on the non-influence of information on the masa; people know these politicians are plunderers, rapists and killers, and yet they get elected to the highest offices. As Conchita Carpio Morales said, ask the Filipinos.

    With this shameful condition, what are we to conclude? How are we to define ourselves? Is democracy for us? What does Duterte tell us? Are we capable of changing our form of government to prohibit crooks from plundering the national coffers and making us poor? Why as individuals do we betray our heroic past? Is religion crucial in the creation of a just and sovereign nation? Our neighbors managed to modernize in one generation with their authoritarian rulers. Marcos was one – why didn’t we modernize under him? Is Duterte the harbinger of a new authoritarian regime? I have written before that given our failures, we are our own worst enemy. How can we reverse this onerous condition?

    Lea Salonga is being reviled for saying, it is difficult to love this country. She is absolutely right but it is difficult to agree with her publicly. When, then, can we love Filipinas without reservations?

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7nITStMz00

    44 day uk prime minister liz truss resigned to partly avert a no confidence vote procedure w/c may prove to be more damaging in the long run... and sparing her from further embarrassment

    uubra kaya ito sa atin kung sakaling ganito ang form of gove't natin. sa malaysia at sa thailand kahit pa paano naging pahirapan din ang change of leadership

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