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    Sigurado maraming DDS na tuwang tuwa nanaman sa ginawa ni gago. Kaya huwag na kayo mag donate karamihan sa mga victims ng bagyo sa region 2 mga DDS bumoto sa kanya. Bayaan ninyo sila.

    Tutulungan mga DDS tapos gagaguin nanaman pilipinas.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Sigurado maraming DDS na tuwang tuwa nanaman sa ginawa ni gago. Kaya huwag na kayo mag donate karamihan sa mga victims ng bagyo sa region 2 mga DDS bumoto sa kanya. Bayaan ninyo sila.

    Tutulungan mga DDS tapos gagaguin nanaman pilipinas.


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    This is the reality. There's outrage right now on Twitter pero hello ilang % lang ng Pilipino nagtitwitter.

    The tweets reaching Facebook, narerepost lang within the same echo chambers.

    For those already dissatisfied with the admin - they see this as the latest in a string of failures and fragile ego of the President.

    For those who are still supportive of the president - they see this as premature campaigning. They don't see it as Leni helping (wtf right but yeah) - they see it as Leni seeking media attention (i.e. "lahat ng galaw kailangan ibroadcast?")

    Sala sa init, sala sa lamig. Pag walang nakikitang documentation, sasabihin hindi nagtatrabaho. Pag nagpakita ng documentation, nagpapapansin. Pag ayaw kay Leni, ayaw kay Leni.

    Conversely, pag gusto si Duts - pag walang nakikitang documentation, ang sasabihin "hindi kailangan imedia lahat ng tulong, let the system work".

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    #NasaanSiKartog

    let's see kung paano nya spin ito, parang taga PCOO eh hehe.

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    Ako I think sinadya yun. Ang target ng message na yun eh yung 91%, some of which nakita sa media yung pagtulong ni Leni. They're controlling the narrative - "Ayaw ni tatay digong kay Leni, kalaban ni tatay digong si leni. Don't vote for her sa 2022."

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    This is the reality. There's outrage right now on Twitter pero hello ilang % lang ng Pilipino nagtitwitter.

    The tweets reaching Facebook, narerepost lang within the same echo chambers.

    For those already dissatisfied with the admin - they see this as the latest in a string of failures and fragile ego of the President.

    For those who are still supportive of the president - they see this as premature campaigning. They don't see it as Leni helping (wtf right but yeah) - they see it as Leni seeking media attention (i.e. "lahat ng galaw kailangan ibroadcast?")

    Sala sa init, sala sa lamig. Pag walang nakikitang documentation, sasabihin hindi nagtatrabaho. Pag nagpakita ng documentation, nagpapapansin. Pag ayaw kay Leni, ayaw kay Leni.

    Conversely, pag gusto si Duts - pag walang nakikitang documentation, ang sasabihin "hindi kailangan imedia lahat ng tulong, let the system work".

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    Nakakainis na yun katangahan talaga


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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Missy View Post
    Ako I think sinadya yun. Ang target ng message na yun eh yung 91%, some of which nakita sa media yung pagtulong ni Leni. They're controlling the narrative - "Ayaw ni tatay digong kay Leni, kalaban ni tatay digong si leni. Don't vote for her sa 2022."

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    Because the government realizes that while Leni is altruistic with her intent to help Cagayan, it's also a very strategic move politically.

    If you flip Cagayan, or even just go 40-60 vs 2016's 10-90 vote split, it will be a big swing. Similar to swinging GA and AZ, previously Red states.

    Not saying Leni has already has a strong chance of winning the presidency (long shot pa yan), but the admin recognizes its declining base so all out offensive na (the broadcast last night wasn't even about the status of relief/rebuilding efforts, talagang all out demolition job lang).

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    Si Duterte mismo ang namumulitika dito, not Leni. He should be thankful that Leni has been doing a lot to help people in need kahit limited lang ang budget ng OVP, pero wala, he just misinterprets even the smallest thing and goes nuts. Iyung mga disipulo niya who still believes in him and thinks Leni is "nagpapakitang tao" are totally beyond repair.

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    ^ Agree on this one. It was netizens who first commended the VP and her camp never hihglighted her efforts naman nung umpisa. Napansin na lang nung wala kasing info from the OP and the cabinet secretaries.

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    Waiting for Harry Roque to come up with a crap load of excuses.
    And side comments to Joseph Morong lightening up her life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Because the government realizes that while Leni is altruistic with her intent to help Cagayan, it's also a very strategic move politically.

    If you flip Cagayan, or even just go 40-60 vs 2016's 10-90 vote split, it will be a big swing. Similar to swinging GA and AZ, previously Red states.

    Not saying Leni has already has a strong chance of winning the presidency (long shot pa yan), but the admin recognizes its declining base so all out offensive na (the broadcast last night wasn't even about the status of relief/rebuilding efforts, talagang all out demolition job lang).

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    She will never be able to flip region 1 and 2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    She will not be able to flip region 1 and 2.


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    Yes for sure hindi pero hindi kailangan iflip. Kailangan mo lang makakuha ng support dun. Hindi naman tayo electoral college so each vote counts, vs sa US na your vote only counts if swing state ka.

    Pero nakakadiri na yun ang iniisip ng admin instead of helping people affected by the storm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Because the government realizes that while Leni is altruistic with her intent to help Cagayan, it's also a very strategic move politically.

    If you flip Cagayan, or even just go 40-60 vs 2016's 10-90 vote split, it will be a big swing. Similar to swinging GA and AZ, previously Red states.

    Not saying Leni has already has a strong chance of winning the presidency (long shot pa yan), but the admin recognizes its declining base so all out offensive na (the broadcast last night wasn't even about the status of relief/rebuilding efforts, talagang all out demolition job lang).

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    The fact na recorded daw yun? They can edit out the rants (because it will make duterte look bad again) but they won't kasi yun talaga yung message na gusto nilang iparating. Na yung presidente na may 91% approval rating hindi iniendorse si Leni sa 2022.

    Also, i don't believe na yung 91% lahat rabid DDS. Meron diyan less informed, nadaan sa propaganda, na pwede pa ma-sway. And they know effective yung recent relief efforts ni Leni na hindi nila matapatan kaya dinaan sa outright demolition job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Missy View Post
    The fact na recorded daw yun? They can edit out the rants (because it will make duterte look bad again) but they won't kasi yun talaga yung message na gusto nilang iparating. Na yung presidente na may 91% approval rating hindi iniendorse si Leni sa 2022.

    Also, i don't believe na yung 91% lahat rabid DDS. Meron diyan less informed, nadaan sa propaganda, na pwede pa ma-sway. And they know effective yung recent relief efforts ni Leni na hindi nila matapatan kaya dinaan sa outright demolition job.

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    Walang pagasa na mga yan. Stop wasting your time trying to sway them.


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    VP was just fulfilling her obligations to the people as a public servant to the best of her abilities, which we really can't say for this government.

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    Well, we can contribute a little by doing our own fact checking and calling out the members here who share fake news and posting misogynistic lines without any proof to back them up. Ban them to hell!

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Walang pagasa na mga yan. Stop wasting your time trying to sway them.


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    It's not about Duterte anymore I think. Kahit naman ano kritisismo sa kanya tsaka kahit wala naman siya nagawa 91% pa din approval rating. Pero may 2022 election and hindi naman si duterte ang nasa balota so as early as now kumikilos na sila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Missy View Post
    It's not about Duterte anymore I think. Kahit naman ano kritisismo sa kanya tsaka kahit wala naman siya nagawa 91% pa din approval rating. Pero may 2022 election and hindi naman si duterte ang nasa balota so as early as now kumikilos na sila.

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    Huwag ka na umasa. They tasted power and hinde bibitaw mga yan sa pwesto. They will do everything para sila parin naka upo. Sino ilalaban ng opposition?

    Si Leni? Kung ganyan siya na walang kibo sa mga banat sa kanya tapos feeling marangal pa rin. Huwag na siya tumakbo sayang lsng pagod niya.

    Hinde na nga umubra yun otso diretso eh.

    Baguhin na nila mentality.

    Paranf housewife na binubogbog ng asawa pero wala pa rin imik.

    They don't need duterte bakit sila takot na Takot, for Pete's Sake they're the oppositions.

    Tutal na attribute sa kanya ni gago na hinde naman niya sinabi.

    Hinde na pwede yun mga sagot na pang beauty contest. Tinanong siya na nauna siya sa Cagayan kesa sa gago. Sagot niya eh hinde naman paligsahan ito mas maganda nga daw na kalat silang lahat par a matulungan lahat. It will not resonate sa mga tanga.

    Dapat sinagot niya. Kasi tulog pa yun sira ulo at walang pakialam sa mga nasalanta.


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    Agree with shadow. Politics is dirty so the opposition should be willing to play dirty as well.

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    Ganito mindset ng typical Pinoy ngayon na hindi Leni supporter. Feeling nila OA ng mga "pa-woke". Hate na hate nila yung intellectualism ng Twitter crowd kasi nga for them happy naman sila not seeking additional accountability from the govt.



    Totoong tao yan hindi troll. Ahente ko from Toyota. And I know many others na ganyan. Typically people outside my Ateneo/UP/DLSU circle (where 99% are unhappy with Duts). Outside my close circle (i.e. mga acquaintances) - mga 70% ayaw din kay Duts pero may 30% pa rin na supportive.

    I'm sure in other circles naman, baka 80-90% supportive kay Duts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamur View Post
    Agree with shadow. Politics is dirty so the opposition should be willing to play dirty as well.
    2 beses na nila ginamit yan marangal na yan.

    Olats si Mar Roxas. Yun otso diretso. Walang nanalo.

    Ano pa ba hinde malinaw? Gusto ng mga tanga yun puro drama. Pang pelikula yun mga bida na sinasabi yun title ng movie sa final scene bago makipag barilan sa mga goons.

    What's there to lose for the oppositions?

    Mamulitika na sila ngayon pikunin na nila ng pikunin. Kahit basura sabihin nila sa lahat ng interview basta tirahan ng tirahan so duterte. Hinde nila mababago yun mga tanga.


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