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    I wonder if he'll equally be tough on hoodlums wearing PNP and AFP uniforms? AFAIK, they're the biggest and baddest criminal organization around masquerading as law enforcement.

    DAVAO MAYOR SAYS CONCEPT OF HUMAN RIGHTS FOR THUGS IS WESTERN NOT FOR PH INQUIRER MINDANAO
    Inquirer Mindanao 10:11 AM | Friday, May 15th, 2015


    DAVAO CITY, Philippines—Mayor Rodrigo Duterte minced no words in revealing the city government’s secret in keeping a peace and order regimen that had earned for the city the tag of one of the world’s safest—make criminals extinct by killing them.

    Duterte, known for talking tough against criminality and backing up his words with action, said his administration has been unwavering in its stand against criminality.

    “You rape a child in my city?,” said Duterte in a speech before more than 200 delegates at the first national convention of the Workplace Advocates on Safety in the Philippines here. “I will kill you, I have no problem with that,” he said.

    “You commit robbery and rape your victim? I will kill you,” he said.

    “We’re the ninth safest city,” he added. “How do you think I did it? How did I reach that title among the world’s safest cities?” he continued.

    “Kill them all (criminals),” he said, eliciting gasps and loud applause from his audience.

    Davao City had been tagged as the world’s ninth safest city by the crowd-sourcing site Cost of Living.

    Best practices

    Duterte said even then President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo, now detained on plunder and election sabotage cases, despite all her faults, had sought him out as peace and order adviser during her term to replicate the best practices of Davao City.

    He recounted telling Arroyo that going tough on criminals is key to peace and order.

    “But the best practices in the city, ma’am, are the killings (of criminals),” Duterte recounted telling the former President.

    He said he did not care if the Commission on Human Rights (CHR) filed cases against him in court for his extrajudicial solutions to criminality.

    The CHR has repeatedly accused Duterte of violating human rights by tolerating the vigilante group Davao Death Squad that had been linked to the summary executions, gangland-style, of suspected criminals, mostly drug suspects, in the city.

    Duterte has repeatedly denied any link with the death squad and raised doubts over its existence.

    READ: Duterte ‘eyes’ presidency in 2016 to save PH from ‘disaster’

    Ready for jail

    “Why should I be afraid to go to prison?” said Duterte. He asked the delegates, mostly safety officers of big corporations and owners of companies, to choose the best candidate for President in 2016 but added he does not covet the position.

    He said the peace and order situation in the country presents the same problems and no new solutions are being planned, except for a suspension in the implementation of a law that allows death penalty for heinous crimes.

    This, he said, had emboldened criminals.

    He said the concept of human rights applying to criminals is a Western one which should not have been adopted in the country.

    “When you start to be soft in this country and allow Western thoughts to seep in, that’s when you start to have problems,” he said.

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    So who kills criminals? Uniformed personnel?

    Totoo ba yung DDS? O myth lang yun?

    How can they confirm if guilty talaga? Eh prior to arrest kill na agad.

    Unless caught in the act.


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    ^ That's why I have a fundamental objection to Duterte being a presidential candidate.

    The last President we had who conveniently and blatantly disregarded human rights went by the name of Marcos. He wrote a completely new constitution with the aid of a puppet legislature and was abetted by an equally scared Supreme Court which ratified it.

    There's simply no telling at what lengths Duterte can go to without going down the slippery slope of authoritarianism in the name of good governance.

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    ^ That's why I have a fundamental objection to Duterte being a presidential candidate.

    The last President we had who conveniently and blatantly disregarded human rights went by the name of Marcos. He wrote a completely new constitution with the aid of a puppet legislature and was abetted by an equally scared Supreme Court which ratified it.

    There's simply no telling at what lengths Duterte can go to without going down the slippery slope of authoritarianism in the name of good governance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    ^ That's why I have a fundamental objection to Duterte being a presidential candidate.

    The last President we had who conveniently and blatantly disregarded human rights went by the name of Marcos. He wrote a completely new constitution with the aid of a puppet legislature and was abetted by an equally scared Supreme Court which ratified it.

    There's simply no telling at what lengths Duterte can go to without going down the slippery slope of authoritarianism in the name of good governance.

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    ^ That's why I have a fundamental objection to Duterte being a presidential candidate.

    The last President we had who conveniently and blatantly disregarded human rights went by the name of Marcos. He wrote a completely new constitution with the aid of a puppet legislature and was abetted by an equally scared Supreme Court which ratified it.

    There's simply no telling at what lengths Duterte can go to without going down the slippery slope of authoritarianism in the name of good governance.
    +1 as head of state, how will he resolve the west philippine sea issue? with brute force? but will his death squad fare better against the Chinese navy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    ^ That's why I have a fundamental objection to Duterte being a presidential candidate.

    The last President we had who conveniently and blatantly disregarded human rights went by the name of Marcos. He wrote a completely new constitution with the aid of a puppet legislature and was abetted by an equally scared Supreme Court which ratified it.

    There's simply no telling at what lengths Duterte can go to without going down the slippery slope of authoritarianism in the name of good governance.

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    ^ That's why I have a fundamental objection to Duterte being a presidential candidate.

    The last President we had who conveniently and blatantly disregarded human rights went by the name of Marcos. He wrote a completely new constitution with the aid of a puppet legislature and was abetted by an equally scared Supreme Court which ratified it.

    There's simply no telling at what lengths Duterte can go to without going down the slippery slope of authoritarianism in the name of good governance.
    what the country needs is a dictator! we cannot compare duterte to marcos.. marcos is a genius and duterte is just a simple thug.

    what we need is a leader like lee kwan yew who is a dictator but loves his country so much..

    its such a shame we are in this situation now left behind by our neighbors were we should have been the first and pioneer in almost anything after WWII.

    we wanted freedom but not responsibility and discipline.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    what the country needs is a dictator! we cannot compare duterte to marcos.. marcos is a genius and duterte is just a simple thug.

    what we need is a leader like lee kwan yew who is a dictator but loves his country so much..

    its such a shame we are in this situation now left behind by our neighbors were we should have been the first and pioneer in almost anything after WWII.

    we wanted freedom but not responsibility and discipline.
    OT every dictator loves his country. adolf hitler loved his country. juan peron loved his country. benito mussolini loved his country. ferdinand marcos loved his country. but, no, lee kuan yew was not a dictator, however political scientists called his brand of leadership as democratic or socialist dictatorship. there is no such thing. you cannot mix oil and water. lee kuan yew was a strong leader but never dictatorial. during his entire tenure as PM of Singapore their parliament was vibrant and functioning. he had a high regard for the rule of law. for example, the banning of bubble gum was a proposal from one of his ministers in 1983 but at that time he found it too drastic. it was only in 1987 when Singapore introduced the MRT system that vandals were sticking chewing gums on MRTs door sensors. thus, parliament enacted a statute banning it. in other words, the ban was not made thru his own fiat but issued by their law making body. if he were a dictator he could have easily done than that. marcos abolished congress and had his own presidential decrees.
    as a strong leader, lee did not succumb to US pressure when they caned Michael Fay who was found guilty of vandalism. he said to Clinton: “We cane our own people, how can we not cane an American?” he also clamped down on corruption real hard, and he enforced the law on corruption against anybody who violated it: no sacred cow. that is the kind of leader we need, not another dictator. Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely, according to Lord Acton.

    BTT with his admission of complicity with DDS, then what are we waiting for, madam?

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    Quote Originally Posted by yapoy86 View Post
    what the country needs is a dictator! we cannot compare duterte to marcos.. marcos is a genius and duterte is just a simple thug.

    what we need is a leader like lee kwan yew who is a dictator but loves his country so much..

    its such a shame we are in this situation now left behind by our neighbors were we should have been the first and pioneer in almost anything after WWII.

    we wanted freedom but not responsibility and discipline.
    Ito sisihin mo sa mentality na yan. Umpisa pa lang palpak na pananaw. Malayo kay Lee.

    "I would rather have a Philippines run like hell by Filipinos than a Philippines run like heaven by the Americans" -- Manuel L. Quezon

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    Alfredo Lim may kill squad din dati diba. Tumino din kahit papano manila, nabawasan talaga mga holdaper at drug pusher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    So who kills criminals? Uniformed personnel?

    Totoo ba yung DDS? O myth lang yun?

    How can they confirm if guilty talaga? Eh prior to arrest kill na agad.

    Unless caught in the act.

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    Totoo yang DDS.

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    try walking around at night in davao city. It is very safe compared to having a stroll in the dark places in metro manila.

    On the positive side, Duterte has the political will to make things happen. Hindi rin siya trapo unlike most politicos.

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    Duterte taunts HRW: Admits ties with DDS

    Duterte even warned HRW to prepare of more deaths if ever he becomes the president of the republic.

    He said that the thousand killed could easily rise to 100,000 and make Manila Bay a dumping ground of criminal corpses -
    See more at: Duterte taunts HRW: Admits ties with DDS - Davao Breaking News

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireice2 View Post

    On the positive side, Duterte has the political will to make things happen. Hindi rin siya trapo unlike most politicos.
    There's a big difference between Philippines and Davao.


    If the vice mayor is the son then that's trapo. [emoji23]
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    Quote Originally Posted by fireice2 View Post
    try walking around at night in davao city. It is very safe compared to having a stroll in the dark places in metro manila.

    On the positive side, Duterte has the political will to make things happen. Hindi rin siya trapo unlike most politicos.
    His daughter was once Mayor and he was Vice-Mayor of the city. She punched a court sheriff who was serving a writ of execution and eviction on live television and was not punished by her father for it. It was direct assault, plain and simple so that she and her father can look good with the squatters.

    Hindi yun pagka-trapo?

    Tell me what kind of water the people of Davao are drinking?

    It's different here. Intimidation. Threats. These are tools of a small town politician. It will only get you so far until people become unafraid of you.

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    OT

    Don't worry hindi rin naman mananalo yan.


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    The way he thinks and acts, i think mas bagay siya pang internal, e.g. DILG, or for dealing with the drug problem.

    International relations may need a more subtle approach, and he's anything *but* subtle. Same goes for his daughter ^_^

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    Quote Originally Posted by cast_no_shadow View Post
    OT

    Don't worry hindi rin naman mananalo yan.


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    kung gusto nyo magkaroon ng hari harian sa bansa natin. iboto nyo si duterte at iupo nyo bilang pangulo..

    nag malaman nyo hinahanap nyo...

    more talk more mistakes..

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    Kill all criminals? Nobody will be left to run the government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Kill all criminals? Nobody will be left to run the government.
    If that is the case,- then so be it!...


    "The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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    Quote Originally Posted by badkuk View Post
    Kill all criminals? Nobody will be left to run the government.
    Part 2 - If that is the case,- then bring it on!!!


    "The measure of a man is what he does with power" LJIOHF!

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