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    Tyope naman sa mga ampatuan. [emoji23]

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    Talk to Singaporean businessmen about corruption. The system isn't as clean as people perceive it to be. But compared to ours, it's much much better.

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    To bashers,

    I'm not saying that Duterte is squeaky clean. No such politician exists. However, he managed to convert Davao City a former killing field in the 80's into the 9th safest city in the world.

    If you are much safer in Davao compared to say Metro Manila. Di naman problema kung law-abiding citizen ka sa Davao. Problema kung salot ka sa lipunan.

    If anyone takes issue on Duterte's style of governance, then file your cases in sandiganbayan, ombudsman or the regular courts. Simple lang naman.

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    I'd rather he try be Manila mayor first actually.

    Manila is one of the most (if not most) mucked up cities in the Philippines. If he's able to fix it, then that'll say a lot about his future, possible presidency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fireice2 View Post
    To bashers,

    I'm not saying that Duterte is squeaky clean. No such politician exists. However, he managed to convert Davao City a former killing field in the 80's into the 9th safest city in the world.

    If you are much safer in Davao compared to say Metro Manila. Di naman problema kung law-abiding citizen ka sa Davao. Problema kung salot ka sa lipunan.

    If anyone takes issue on Duterte's style of governance, then file your cases in sandiganbayan, ombudsman or the regular courts. Simple lang naman.
    Firstly, we can be critics WITHOUT BEING BASHERS. Last I checked, all politicians, especially Philippine politicians may be the subject of critique and fair comment from those they govern. In other words, sir, what I say and the others in this forum can say about DUTERTE and his style of governance CAN BE SAID without going through the ombudsman or sandiganbayan.

    Secondly, I said Davao is different from Metro Manila because here at least we can have DISSENT and dissenting ideas without getting killed for it---or threatened to be killed for it. Unless it is also your or DUTERTE's style to eliminate and kill off dissenting people for lack of intelligent argument. It is also here in Metro Manila that DUTERTE will have a hard time INTIMIDATING and much less THREATENING those who he perceives to be a criminal simply because it is here where we stared a dictator down and subsequently kicked him out of the country.

    Thirdly, everyone here wants to be safe --- whether in their homes or outside of it during the day or night. I'm saying its a slippery slope that DUTERTE is on when he thinks that he can simply ignore laws or rights in the name of good governance and peace and order. Heck, Marcos declared martial law under the guise of restoring peace and order and it took 20 long years of brutality before freedom was restored.

    As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. So have a lot of our politicians started out.

    So those who endorse DUTERTE and forward his merits as a possible president should have a better argument than the so-called "restoration of peace and order" and "discipline" shtick because, trust me, after 6 years of that, people are gonna wonder what the hell they fought for during martial law.

    Got that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Altis6453 View Post
    Firstly, we can be critics WITHOUT BEING BASHERS. Last I checked, all politicians, especially Philippine politicians may be the subject of critique and fair comment from those they govern. In other words, sir, what I say and the others in this forum can say about DUTERTE and his style of governance CAN BE SAID without going through the ombudsman or sandiganbayan.

    Secondly, I said Davao is different from Metro Manila because here at least we can have DISSENT and dissenting ideas without getting killed for it---or threatened to be killed for it. Unless it is also your or DUTERTE's style to eliminate and kill off dissenting people for lack of intelligent argument. It is also here in Metro Manila that DUTERTE will have a hard time INTIMIDATING and much less THREATENING those who he perceives to be a criminal simply because it is here where we stared a dictator down and subsequently kicked him out of the country.

    Thirdly, everyone here wants to be safe --- whether in their homes or outside of it during the day or night. I'm saying its a slippery slope that DUTERTE is on when he thinks that he can simply ignore laws or rights in the name of good governance and peace and order. Heck, Marcos declared martial law under the guise of restoring peace and order and it took 20 long years of brutality before freedom was restored.

    As they say, the road to hell is paved with good intentions. So have a lot of our politicians started out.

    So those who endorse DUTERTE and forward his merits as a possible president should have a better argument than the so-called "restoration of peace and order" and "discipline" shtick because, trust me, after 6 years of that, people are gonna wonder what the hell they fought for during martial law.

    Got that?
    +100 i couldn't think of a better retort than this rejoinder bro. i'd just like to up this one.

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    Dunno, sana hindi na lang niya inamin na me DDS; those kinds of groups operate best when left unnoticed anyways. There's a bit of arrogance that came with that admission.


    Right now i'm worried he might start World War 3 with China if he does become president.

    Ano kaya kung nagtandem sina Miriam and Duterte no?
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    Talk to Singaporean businessmen about corruption. The system isn't as clean as people perceive it to be. But compared to ours, it's much much better.
    i agree. but bureaucratic corruption during his tenure as PM (1959 to 1990) was almost nil.

    this is a good read: Combating Corruption in Singapore: What Can Be Learned? by Jon S.T. Quah (Projects at Harvard)

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    Di nya kaya yan...tutupi buntot niya pag nandun na siya. Sumabay siya or siya mauna. La na pag-asa...

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    I like the idea of killing criminals esp yung mga nasa gobiernong magnanakAw..mas maganda sana kung pahirapan muna..but thats just me.

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    Bashed daw....lol

    Ala binay na ah...file a case...[emoji23]

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    Does advocating to killing criminals constitute to murder? if so then duterte & his minions is worse than a snatcher

    Will these murderers shoot themselves in the head? If not, then its all just for show

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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    Does advocating to killing criminals constitute to murder? if so then duterte & his minions is worse than a snatcher
    In a perfect world, there'd be no need for the likes of Duterte. i think of it as a necessary evil....though i don't necessarily think he should be president ^_^

    *shadow: yeah, he's awfully quiet about those guys.

    i think with that admission, he really left De Lima no choice but to react -- dating CHR pa man din yun. Medyo binawi niya kahapon, DDS = Davao Development System kuno ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by kisshmet View Post
    Does advocating to killing criminals constitute to murder? if so then duterte & his minions is worse than a snatcher

    Will these murderers shoot themselves in the head? If not, then its all just for show
    Salvage tawag dyan. Sorry mas maraming rights ang criminal and with our snail justice system. Huli then pakawalan lang yan, so ang siste eh pag masyado ng maraming atraso eh salvage na.

    Grabe ang Davao dati, parang wala lang ma holdap ka ng tanghaling tapat sa harapan ng City Hall. Ngayon a couple of strike and you'll be gunned down kung saan ka nakatirang kriminal ka.

    Do people of Davao supports it. Hell yes.
    Last edited by ClaNker; May 27th, 2015 at 12:12 PM.

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    some people compared Rodrigo Duterte to Rudy Giuliani. RG was a former prosecutor who became mayor of new york. RD was an erstwhile prosecutor who becomes mayor of davao. but the similarity stops there. when the term of RG ended he did not let his daughter or son to succeed him, thus, perpetuating his hold of NY. RD's case is different. He thinks he is the only answer to all of davao's woes. and what guarantee we have that he will not perpetuate himself in power once he will become president of the Republic? another thing, NY had a history too of criminals slumped dead on its pavement whose death remains unsolved up to this day, but they ascribed it to gangwars. hardly policemen were involved. allegedly, in davao, it's an open secret-- some members of DDS (digong death squad) ay kasapi ng ating hanay.

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    ^ PCIJ i think is right. matapang talaga yan si digong. di yan takot sa mga muslim. nung binomba yung davao airport in 2003 allegedly perpetrated by MI's SUTAG, dami-dami din daw muslim na niliquidate ng DDS para matukoy sino ang may salarin sa trahedyang iyan. epektibo naman. maraming naaresto na involved. ganyang trabaho may mga sleepers umaaroga sa sutag before the incident. nagki- casing din yang mga teroristang iyan eh.

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    Governance is case to case basis. And I agree with the davao mayor. You cannot do the american system in the philippines.

    And to be on the top 10 safest cities in the world is one great achievement.

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    Before Marcos was president, the Philippines was the No. 2 or 3 economy in Southeast Asia. Other Southeast Asian countries looked up to us. The Police were also highly respected. During Marcos era, especially the time of martial law, there was repression of freedom, information & news from abroad was filtered. With Power came corruption. Gap between the cronies & everyone else widened. Other countries looked down on us. Economy plumetted. We then became known as the "SICK MAN OF ASIA". All because of a man & a woman.

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    Say and bash all you want about his style but to be named 9th safest city in the world (2015) is a great achievement.

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    BF did a very good job running Marikina, but eventually screwed up with Metro Manila. Pano pa kung buong bansa.

    Anyone with a death squad in his beck and call is a very risky proposition.

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