Digong, The President

[Flagg]

Sen. Joseph McCarthy, Jr. 😂 Jack Husain is as fanatically anti as Tor is fanatically pro. ✌

namwaran, no, let us not BS each other. This guy jack husain has taken pains to answer point by point the supposed 50 achievements of the President in his first 50 days in office. your guy commentator has this uncanny reputation of copy-pasting news reports and facebook posts. is that your definition of "elevating the discourse" a step higher?

you are a smart fellow, namwaran, and, let me tell you, you are not talking to some stupid ass. so, it is better for us not bullshitting each other. am I making myself clear?

[jack_husain]

Sen. Joseph McCarthy, Jr. 😂 Jack Husain is as fanatically anti as Tor is fanatically pro. ✌

No, I am NOT anti-administration. I am ANTI-TOR and his likes.

I am PRO development. I want to see this administration or any administration for that matter to steer this country to achieve its fullest potential.

[Monseratto]

Daming mga engot na millenials gusto matikim ng martial law ala marcos golden years...

[ClaNker]

^lahat ng pinag hirapan ng generation x ay sinisira ng engot na millenials.

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[Dende]

^lahat ng pinag hirapan ng generation x ay sinisira ng engot na millenials.

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Which I think is also the fault of generation x. Masyado kasing naging complacent. Yung kay erap din nabaon na sa limot.

Why did the succeeding administrations after Marcos not pushed for the inclusion of the Martial Law atrocities in the school curriculum? Dapat tinuturo yan elementary pa lang. Medyo nabawasan sana mga ganyang misinformed millenials

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[badkuk]

Hmm, so now it's Gen X vs the Millenials?

Granted, the previous generations may have dropped the ball, why doesn't the current generation pick it up? The Martial Law era is well documented, and the internet has never been more pervasive. Anyone with the slightest bit of interest on why people are protesting against the Marcos burial, can simply look it to see what it's all about...but, is there really genuine interest?

Gen X is getting old sir; time for the young ones to step up. Sure information can be spoonfed to us, but sometimes some b.s. and outright lies get into the mix. How do you know what is truth and what is b.s.? Read. Think. Investigate. Verify. Repeat.

We can point fingers between both camps all we want; bottom line, it is everyone's responsibility to be vigilant. If the history of PH politics should teach us anything, is that we should question everything our government does, whether or not we voted for it.

[Dende]

Hmm, so now it's Gen X vs the Millenials?

Granted, the previous generations may have dropped the ball, why doesn't the current generation pick it up? The Martial Law era is well documented, and the internet has never been more pervasive. Anyone with the slightest bit of interest on why people are protesting against the Marcos burial, can simply look it to see what it's all about...but, is there really genuine interest?

Gen X is getting old sir; time for the young ones to step up. Sure information can be spoonfed to us, but sometimes some b.s. and outright lies get into the mix. How do you know what is truth and what is b.s.? Read. Think. Investigate. Verify. Repeat.

We can point fingers between both camps all we want; bottom line, it is everyone's responsibility to be vigilant. If the history of PH politics should teach us anything, is that we should question everything our government does, whether or not we voted for it.

No blaming sir, it's just what it is. Me pagkukulang talaga.

All of my cousins born in 1991 up are Pro-Marcos. I asked them what was taught in school, no mention of the atrocities that happened during that time.

I tried talking to them how hard life was during that time, ayaw maniwala. Yung mga patayan, ok daw martial law para madisiplina Pinoy.

I was born after martial law so baka di ako kapanipaniwala.

[badkuk]

Had someone told me back in 1986 that Marcos would be buried at LNMB, i would have laughed in their faces...who's laughing now eh?

Dunno, it's almost as if people went into denial of that dark chapter...it's like they prefer to forget the whole thing happened and move on. imho yan yung sakit natin as a people, we forgive too readily and forget just as easily. Contrast that with the Argentinians, back when their currency bottomed out -- politicians were getting cursed and spat on in public, and they changed presidents four times in a span of months.

Anyways i'm digressing...

[safeorigin]

Hmmm... not sure why people are blaming millenials when a lot of previous generation people themselves are reminiscing martial law as "good old days".

The voter sentiment for bong bong reflects this.

[ClaNker]

Which I think is also the fault of generation x. Masyado kasing naging complacent. Yung kay erap din nabaon na sa limot.

Why did the succeeding administrations after Marcos not pushed for the inclusion of the Martial Law atrocities in the school curriculum? Dapat tinuturo yan elementary pa lang. Medyo nabawasan sana mga ganyang misinformed millenials

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Nah, social media happened and bobong capitalized on that.

I had a conversation with an acquaintance this morning he's a staunch supporter of PGong and Martial Law. Ayaw nya kay PGong at Martial Law ngayon dahil ang brother in law nya ay pinatay ng riding in tandem last saturday dito sa Pangasinan.

[Dende]

Nah, social media happened and bobong capitalized on that.

I had a conversation with an acquaintance this morning he's a staunch supporter of PGong and Martial Law. Ayaw nya kay PGong at Martial Law ngayon dahil ang brother in law nya ay pinatay ng riding in tandem last saturday dito sa Pangasinan.

Social media played a big part in the dissemination of false information but it would have been minimized or reduced if martial law was taught in school.

If people were well-informed from the start, hindi sila basta basta maniniwala sa mga nababasa nila. It is possible that most of those millenials first heard of martial law via FB.

[Gumusut_Amige]

Nah, social media happened and bobong capitalized on that.

I had a conversation with an acquaintance this morning he's a staunch supporter of PGong and Martial Law. Ayaw nya kay PGong at Martial Law ngayon dahil ang brother in law nya ay pinatay ng riding in tandem last saturday dito sa Pangasinan.

That's really sad... once your immediate family is already threatened or harmed, that's the only time to step back and question your original political posture.
Ilan pa kaya ang ganito?

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[safeorigin]

It's not necessary for govt to mandate what opinion we're supposed to have on Martial Law. think. that in itself is a soft form of tyranny.

What's actually wrong is the value system or lack of thereof. Duterte is merely a manifestation of the country's present values regardless of political alignment.

[ClaNker]

That's really sad... once your immediate family is already threatened or harmed, that's the only time to step back and question your original political posture.
Ilan pa kaya ang ganito?

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Madami-dami pa ang mamatay wala pa tayo sa 100th day ni PGong.

We never have this problem in Dagupan, Pangasinan before, ngayon ang dami nang patay and two of them are students.

[niky]

Hmmm... not sure why people are blaming millenials when a lot of previous generation people themselves are reminiscing martial law as "good old days".

The voter sentiment for bong bong reflects this.

Yup.

Lot of people are forgetting that Bongbong's numbers in the provinces and among older voters are huge.

Talking to many voters in the provinces pre-election, I had the feeling that rose-colored glasses were in great supply amongst the old and poor.

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Basically: They remember that the economy tanked. They don't remember or were never told who was responsible and why it happened.

It's not necessary for govt to mandate what opinion we're supposed to have on Martial Law. think. that in itself is a soft form of tyranny.

What's actually wrong is the value system or lack of thereof. Duterte is merely a manifestation of the country's present values regardless of political alignment.

We seem to be agreeing on a lot of things today.

Yun last sentence is the long and short of it. The current generation says FU to the rights to life and liberty, and says order is more important than justice.

Childish thinking.

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*Again, goes back to basic voter psychology and why Mar never stood a chance of winning: Voters vote like children. Either they vote for a stern Papa or a giving Mama.

That's Digong versus Grace.

If Mar had stepped aside, Grace would have actually won. Mar voters were never going to vote for Digong, but they would vote for Grace. Grace voters would be split 50:50 if she stepped aside, so Digong still would have won.

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The real terror of the Facebook meme generation is, when they grow older, they spread their stupidity and values to the next generation.

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Ergo, we're screwed.

[vinj]

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The real terror of the Facebook meme generation is, when they grow older, they spread their stupidity and values to the next generation.

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Ergo, we're screwed.

Now, that statement ruined my day.

[ClaNker]

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The real terror of the Facebook meme generation is, when they grow older, they spread their stupidity and values to the next generation.

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Ergo, we're screwed.

Easily a post for the day... Again.

[shadow]

Nah, social media happened and bobong capitalized on that.

I had a conversation with an acquaintance this morning he's a staunch supporter of PGong and Martial Law. Ayaw nya kay PGong at Martial Law ngayon dahil ang brother in law nya ay pinatay ng riding in tandem last saturday dito sa Pangasinan.

That would be epic! "Told you!" [emoji23]


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[zoomzoom]

That's really sad... once your immediate family is already threatened or harmed, that's the only time to step back and question your original political posture.
Ilan pa kaya ang ganito?

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And by then it's too late.

First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

First they came ... - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia...

[zoomzoom]

Hmmm... not sure why people are blaming millenials when a lot of previous generation people themselves are reminiscing martial law as "good old days".

The voter sentiment for bong bong reflects this.

Yup, it's not the millenials, as per polls conducted last election. Malakas pa rin talaga ang impluwensiya ng mga Marcos loyalists, and these loyalists pass on their "beliefs" to their children with a passion.

Marcos, on the other hand, is most preferred by voters 55 years old and above – the age group who directly experienced his father’s regime.

Who is voting for Bongbong Marcos?