Digong, The President

[Juan Martinez]

Was just thinking that no president has stopped the NPA ever and here comes digong who may HOPEFULLY bring peace with the NPA.
Looking at a silver lining lang sa lahat ng issues ni digong. Sana wala nang mamatay na pulis, sundalo or civilians dahil sa NPA


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i am sure if i discuss here communism and democracy you will never understand these concepts. it is like bringing water to the ocean or taking spices to the orient.

now, because soldiers and policemen died for the country so that we may continue to live under the blessings of democracy, we embrace these communist pigs like long lost lovers because they are bringing peace and good tidings. bullshit! communism and democracy are facking like oil and water. it is either we snuff their lives out of this earth or we perish. how do you defeat an ideology like communism?

change your thinking, man, because it is gagoesque.

[JJB]

i am sure if i discuss here communism and democracy you will never understand these concepts. it is like bringing water to the ocean or taking spices to the orient.

now, because soldiers and policemen died for the country so that we may continue to live under the blessings of democracy, we embrace these communist pigs like long lost lovers because they are bringing peace and good tidings. bullshit! communism and democracy are facking like oil and water. it is either we snuff their lives out of this earth or perish. how do you defeat an ideology of communism?

change your thinking, man, it is because gagoesque!

JM, I think you've misunderstood what I'm trying to say. I'm all for peace above all else whoever we vote and just like anyone else, trying to find a way to end the insurgency. This is not entirely connected to promoting duterte since I've long crossed him out due to his lies.
But like so many Filipinos who are tired of hearing NPA atrocities, everyone's desperate to find a solution.
I believe that if we pour billions into projects into the provinces where the NPAs are, we'll be able to minimize their influence. But the thing is that this is not done.
And hopefully next time as a respected member here, please stop being condescending and branding one person's thinking as "gagoesque". I'm no fanatic of anyone but I'm a fanatic of peace, justice, discipline and good manners. Let's keep the dialogues healthy and clean guys

[JJB]

Oh, and the reason why I posted the first time on this thread is that there's really a great possibility that Duterte will win and I'm trying to find the silver linings if he becomes president. A lot of people are nervous about his principles including bringing joma Sison home. I just want to understand and analyze what good things can happen if there's a ceasefire. A lot of NPAs have returned to the government before, baka naman most will see the light if there's a truce. Most of these NPAs have lived their lives holding guns and don't know any other job to do.


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[StockEngine]

Hmmm.... Is this really from the kulto?

inc bloc vote? I think its true...

[BratPAQ]

Hmmm.... Is this really from the kulto?

seems official, lumabas sa pagsamba nila Today.

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[Anak ng Pusa]

Nakalimutan nyo na yata na communista ang nagloklok sa nanay ni Pnoy sa Malacañan. Andami na nilang mukha ngayon, may gabriela, anak pawis, makabayan, bayan muna, kmu, kmp, piston, etc.

[Juan Martinez]

JM, I think you've misunderstood what I'm trying to say. I'm all for peace above all else whoever we vote and just like anyone else, trying to find a way to end the insurgency. This is not entirely connected to promoting duterte since I've long crossed him out due to his lies.
But like so many Filipinos who are tired of hearing NPA atrocities, everyone's desperate to find a solution.
I believe that if we pour billions into projects into the provinces where the NPAs are, we'll be able to minimize their influence. But the thing is that this is not done.
And hopefully next time as a respected member here, please stop being condescending and branding one person's thinking as "gagoesque". I'm no fanatic of anyone but I'm a fanatic of peace, justice, discipline and good manners. Let's keep the dialogues healthy and clean guys

Oh, and the reason why I posted the first time on this thread is that there's really a great possibility that Duterte will win and I'm trying to find the silver linings if he becomes president. A lot of people are nervous about his principles including bringing joma Sison home. I just want to understand and analyze what good things can happen if there's a ceasefire. A lot of NPAs have returned to the government before, baka naman most will see the light if there's a truce. Most of these NPAs have lived their lives holding guns and don't know any other job to do.


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why, do you want me to baby talk you, man? please don't feel insulted because let us call a spade a spade here.

no, your whole premise is wrong. do you want me to spoon-feed everything to you?

what is the basic difference between the milf and the cpp-npa? why is it that it is much "easier" to broker or talk peace with milf than the cpp-npa? what is a people's protracted war? what is a separatist movement?

now, let us stop this exchange because we are getting out of topic.

BTT

another trillanes exposè: duterte's children have 300 million in so many bank accounts.

Trillanes accuses Duterte children of having P300M in bank accounts

Wednesday, May 04, 2016 8:26PM



Three children of presidential candidate Davao City Mayor Rodrigo Duterte received some P300 million in deposits from 2003 to 2015, documents released by vice presidential candidate Senator Antonio Trillanes IV revealed.
"Iba't ibang bank account sa iba't ibang banks," Trillanes said in a report by Maki Pulido in GMA's "24 Oras"

According to Sara Duterte Carpio's Statement of Assets, Liabilities, and Net Worth (SALN), she had a total net worth of more than P22 million as of 2012—P4.3 million of which was cash on hand, or bank deposits.

However, Trillanes' documents indicated that Sara had P111 million deposited in different banks, both in Davao City and in Metro Manila.

The documents showed Sara had 47 bank accounts—16 solo accounts, and the rest joint accounts with her husband Atty. Manases Carpio, her siblings Sebastian and Paolo, her mother Elizabeth Zimmerman, and her two children.

While Davao City Vice Mayor Paolo Duterte's 2015 SALN pegged his net worth at at P18 million (with P2.5 million cash on hand or bank deposits), documents released by Trillanes showed that he had more than P70 million in 36 bank accounts.

Out of all the accounts, 18 are solo and the rest are supposedly joint accounts.

Sebastian Duterte allegedly had the largest amount in bank deposits with P113 million, according to the Trillanes' documents.

He is said to have 47 accounts in different banks.

According to Trillanes, it is up to Duterte's children to answer his claims.

"Sila magpapaliwanag niyan pero hindi nila na-deklara 'yan. Remember si Paolo and Sara Duterte ay naging opisyal ng gobyerno. Hindi nila na-deklara ang tagong yaman na yan," he said.

"Base sa dokumento, isang araw tatlo sila nahulugan sila ng P20 million each on the same day so mahirap ipaliwanag 'yun," he added.

Trillanes also noted that they are currently investigating the matter with two possible angles -- corruption, and illegal drugs manufacturing. "Binubuo pa naman 'yun," he said.

The children of Duterte were not immediately available for comment.

For his part, Duterte said: "Hindi ako nakikialam.. Hindi kami naguusap ng ganon, ng pera." —NB, GMA News

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INC set to endorse Duterte, Marcos

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[JJB]

why, do you want me to baby talk you, man? please don't feel insulted because let us call a spade a spade here.

no, your whole premise is wrong. do you want me to spoon-feed everything to you?

what is the basic difference between the milf and the cpp-npa? why is it that it is much "easier" to broker or talk peace with milf than the cpp-npa? what is a people's protracted war? what is a separatist movement?

now, let us stop this exchange because we are getting out of topic.

And this is the reason why I dont want to post about politics in tsikot especially in the digong thread.
Fanaticism in both sides of the road.
Just calling a spade a spade, man

[Juan Martinez]

And this is the reason why I dont want to post about politics in tsikot especially in the digong thread.
Fanaticism in both sides of the road.
Just calling a spade a spade, man

then why you are here? i'm not even talking about duterte. we're talking about that damn communism and why you cannot make peace with communists. i don't have the slightest intention of hurting your ego.

i told you let us stop this exchange because we are getting out of topic. this has the tendency to escalate into something. let's nip this in the bud because I don't want trouble.

according to Churchill, a fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject.

can we change our subject and go back to topic most appropriate of this thread?

[niky]

In all the time he has been mayor in Davao, and in the time he has been a Congressman, Digong has had the opportunity to broker peace deals with the NPA. But he hasn't.

The MILF / MNLF are another thing. They can be swayed by offering them autonomy and the rights to their own land. The CPP-NPA wants nothing more than to replace the current government with their own.

There is no middle ground with the left. This is why the KMU has proven so dangerous to businesses. Either their way or the highway. Thousands of workers who've been left unemployed because KMU infiltration ruined what was a sweet, cushy job environment with generous benefits can attest to this.

I recall the debates and fights over the Ayala Technopark in UP. Even though the Chancellor, an ex-radical himself, promised the money would go to improving services and helping the students, the left vehemently fought against the "commercialization" of UP. As if capitalism could NEVER be used for good!

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The rift with the left is an ideological one. They are against capitalism - full stop - and foreign investment / involvement in the economy - full stop. Unless, maybe, it's China, because China is a communist country. However little that means in the real world, where the Communist Party act like oligarchs in any other country would!

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The sad thing about the INC support is not that block voting will occur. It may or may not. It's that you only get INC support when you're a sure-bol winner. Which means we're getting Bongbong.

Which means we're screwed.

[kagalingan]

Yan ang hirap pag kasamahan mo mismo nagsabi sayo. Hindi hearsay.

Ang napapansin ko ngayon kay trilly eh a milder verson ni escudero. Milder opportunist. Hindi ko talaga kinaya yung sa manila pen nung binulldozer ng tangke tapos bigla suko si trilly. Nasaan yung tapang? Pag naghostage/mutiny ka dapat handa mamatay.

Former Marines Captain Nick Faeldon, who was one of the six officers jailed in the Intelligence Service of the AFP detention centre along with Trillanes in 2003 following a failed coup attempt, said he saw then Navy Lieutenant Senior Grade Trillanes receive a boxful of money from a congresswoman whose family was accused of corruption.

Faeldon said sometime in 2004, former Cong. Imee Marcos, now Ilocos Norte Governor, visited their detention cell along with her son and a lawyer.

They were ushered in by a Gen. Quevedo who was the ISAFP chief at that time.

"One afternoon Imee Marcos came with her son and Atty. Robles, lawyer ni Trillanes and they were escorted by ISAFP chief Gen. Quevedo," Faeldon said.

"Noong nakaupo na kami, sabi ni Imee "Sonny (Trillanes) dala ko na ang request mo." I saw her son carrying a box of Red Ribbon and when it was opened tumambad yong pera. I don’t know how much," he said.

Faeldon said he was shocked that Trillanes asked money from the Marcoses, a family hounded by accusations of corruption.

"Pagbalik namain sa kulungan I told him 'Next time na may transaksyon ka hwag mo na ako isama',” Faeldon recounted.

Faeldon said he questioned Trillanes for soliciting money from known politicians which he said was a complete betrayal of the cause for which they staged the rebellion in the Oakwood Mutiny which was to denounce the corruption in the administration of President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo.

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Biz Buzz: A shocker for Malacanang | Inquirer Business

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[Anak ng Pusa]

Yan ang hirap pag kasamahan mo mismo nagsabi sayo. Hindi hearsay.

Ang napapansin ko ngayon kay trilly eh a milder verson ni escudero. Milder opportunist. Hindi ko talaga kinaya yung sa manila pen nung binulldozer ng tangke tapos bigla suko si trilly. Nasaan yung tapang? Pag naghostage/mutiny ka dapat handa mamatay.

Hinayaan na nga lang ng Duterte camp na mag tatalak tong si trillanes eh. Kahit asong ulol hindi na maniniwala sa kanya. Noon pa man wala ng credibilidad ang asong kalye na yan. Trillanes is nothing but a prostituted stray dog.

[StockEngine]

It seems like Duterte might have a landslide victory..

I asked family friends acquaintances and Strangers.
Only one name was uttered...

[Anak ng Pusa]

It seems like Duterte might have a landslide victory..

I asked family friends acquaintances and Strangers.
Only one name was uttered...

It can be. Let's hope for a clean and honest election. Please

[jaggerx3]

Yan ang hirap pag kasamahan mo mismo nagsabi sayo. Hindi hearsay.

Ang napapansin ko ngayon kay trilly eh a milder verson ni escudero. Milder opportunist. Hindi ko talaga kinaya yung sa manila pen nung binulldozer ng tangke tapos bigla suko si trilly. Nasaan yung tapang? Pag naghostage/mutiny ka dapat handa mamatay.

Haha atras yagbols ni Trillanes nung pinasukan ng tangke sa Manila Pen

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[XTO]

Mahirap lasi pag may nagdidikta sa iyo. Pag nagkagipitan manaaig pa din na i safe sarili mo unlike talagang ikaw gumusto mula umpisa kahit nanay mo di ka mapipigil

[CVT]

*** Take the money (our money),- and vote based on your conviction ***

I may not like the results of this coming election,- but I will respect it.
[Of course, my usual drift, that my vote as a taxpayer is just equal to a vote of a 'tambay sa kanto']

But most importantly,- I am hoping and praying that the rest of the nation will respect the results, too...

And that we move forward as one people in supporting the next President.


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Biz Buzz: A shocker for Malacanang | Inquirer Business

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Thanks for sharing bro. I have quoted the article below....

Frankly,- I am not at all surprised,- because as I narrated in one of my previous posts,- I was talking with a group of generals in our industry some weeks ago - and they were telling each other that they will vote for Du30... Being top executives, they know what it takes to be the Top Executive of the Land... A take charge attitude.

The result of the mock election held by the Philippine Stocks Exchange (PSE) during its annual golf tournament last Saturday at Tagaytay Midlands should come as a big shocker to Malacañang and former Interior Secretary Mar Roxas. Or maybe not.
The results revealed that the who’s who of the Philippine business sector are apparently voting for presidential candidate Rodrigo Duterte. So apart from having the support of the masses, he also has the support of many of the country’s captains of industry.
In the same way that Duterte consistently topped surveys of the Social Weather Station (SWS) and Pulse Asia, the Davao City mayor was chosen as president by 49 voters-participants in the mock election that followed the PSE golf tournament.
Duterte was followed by Roxas with 38, Sen. Grace Poe with 21, Vice President Jejomar Binay with seven and Sen. Miriam Santiago getting two votes. Twelve were undecided.
The results of the PSE mock poll could indicate where the business votes are going (in favor of Duterte, the numbers show for now), despite the issues raised against him.
Why the support for Duterte? It would seem that his three- to six-month timetable for wiping out criminality in the country appeals strongly to crime-weary businessmen.
Incidentally, a recent mock poll conducted in no less than the Department of Finance—the bastion of the fiscal policies of “Daang Matuwid”—yielded even more surprising numbers.
Conducted before the allegations of undeclared bank deposits were leveled against him, Duterte garnered a stunning 88 votes among the employees of the DOF who are in charge of keeping the country’s finances in order. And you wouldn’t believe who came in second either: none other than Vice President Binay who got 58 votes. Coming in at third was Roxas with 54, while Poe had 43 and Santiago, 33. Twenty-six were undecided.
For the vice presidency, it was practically a statistical tie among the statistics-loving employees of DOF, with Leni Robredo getting 109 votes to Sen. Bongbong Marcos’ 106 votes. Sen. Alan Peter Cayetano slightly edged out Sen. Chiz Escudero, 26 to 23 votes.
The results, unexpected as they were, led several longtime DOF officials’ jaws to drop. Is this a precursor to the entire Philippines’ collective jaw dropping next Monday? Abangan! Daxim L. Lucas

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